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War on Iraq

What to Read While the Cradle of Civilization Burns

By Deborah Campbell, The Tyee. Posted July 22, 2006.


Books that will give you the history and context of the Middle East that the media refuses to provide.
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The Middle East is both the birthplace of civilization and, as the globe's largest repository of fossil fuels, the mother's milk of the modern industrialized world. At a time when war threatens to engulf the entire region and the Harper government abandons Canada's traditional "honest broker" role in favour of increasingly pro-American and pro-Israel policies, the daily barrage of news headlines often does more to obscure than enlighten.

In addition to Informed Comment, the daily blog of Professor Juan Cole -- arguably the world's leading expert on the Middle East -- the following books are recommended for both the informed observer and the recent initiate to the cataclysmic events unfolding on that fraught soil. Far from dry policy prescriptions, these compelling narratives stand apart from myriad other books in the field by relating the human story behind the headlines and focusing on fundamental issues that rarely make the news.

The Yellow Wind By David Grossman (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1988)

The unresolved question of Palestine is the single greatest cause of the woes plaguing the Middle East -- and, by extension, the world. Yet rarely do we glimpse the brutal realities of life under Israeli occupation. The acclaimed Israeli novelist David Grossman took a turn at telling that story in 1987 -- mere months before the outbreak of the first Palestinian intifada -- and his account is no less relevant today.

Back then, it was already 20 years into the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. In poetic non-fiction reportage, Grossman chronicles the occupation from the perspectives of both its victims and its perpetrators -- and those, like Grossman himself, caught in between. He meets an old Palestinian woman who reminds him of his Polish grandmother, and finds himself disturbed by Israeli settlers who take the Bible as an "operational order."

Even as his experiences transform him, he recognizes that the most formidable fortress is the mind: "Furthermore, at the end of twenty years it seems to me that all the arguments, both rational and emotional, have already been made. Only on extremely rare occasions do we hear a crushing new argument, one that requires you to re-evaluate your opinions, and in Israel the reality is that it is easier for a man to change his religion, and maybe even his sex, than to change in any decisive way his political opinions. Renounce your opinions -- and it is as if you have announced the total replacement of the structure of your soul, and have taken it upon yourself to proclaim that, up to now, you lived a perfect lie."

For the rest of us, presented with nuanced reality through the eyes of this keenly perceptive observer, it's not too late.

My Name Is Rachel Corrie Edited by Alan Rickman and Katharine Viner (Nick Hern Books, 2006)

The writings of the young American activist who was crushed to death by an Israeli Caterpillar bulldozer while trying to protect the home of a physician in Gaza from demolition (a common occurrence for Palestinians under occupation, the vast majority of whom are unarmed civilians) were made into a play that experienced the kind of censorship journalists frequently endure when they attempt to document the realities of Israel's occupation.

Though the play was "postponed" in New York, it was recently presented in Vancouver by the Neworld Theatre and Judith Marcuse Projects. It's also available as a short book. More from one of the editors here. Get it for your book club or read an excerpt from Rachel Corrie's final e-mails.

Palestine By Joe Sacco (Fantagraphics Books, 2001)


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Deborah Campbell is the author of This Heated Place: Encounters in the Promised Land.

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Another great read: 'The Sword of the Prophet'
Posted by: thinkprogress on Jul 22, 2006 1:05 AM   
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Another great read is 'The Sword of the Prophet' by Serge Trifkovic. One must understand Islam to understand the Middle East.

Get the details and documentation for hundreds of "politically incorrect" facts about Islam -- such as:


The Koran sanctions pillage, looting, ransom, and the rape of captive women as an incentive to join in jihad or "holy war"

Mohammed kept one-fifth of all spoils of war for himself

The Koran allows a man to have up to four wives -- at any one time. He can divorce a wife by simply saying so 3 times

Mohammad had as many as 25 wives. One was six when they married; he was 54. He consummated the marriage when she was 9

At least 27 people were murdered on Mohammed's orders

Mohammed allowed temporary marriage "for three nights" or more, so that soldiers in the field could "marry" prostitutes

The Koran assures the Muslim the right to own slaves by purchasing them or as a bounty of war. Mohammad had dozens

Almsgiving and mercy is commended in Islam -- but the beneficiaries have to be Muslims only

In Islam, the definition of what is "right" or "just" is not fixed, but changeable by divine decree -- enabling the most henous sins and crimes to be declared "the will of Allah"

The joys and glories of the Islamic "paradise" are tangible and sensual and include sex with virgins -- and young boys

As Mohammad progressed from visionary and teacher to warlord and ruler, his style and message became more depraved, violent and intolerant. It is these later "revelations" that are considered definitive by Islamic authorities when they conflict with earlier ones often cited for Western consumption

The Crusades were a belated military response to three centuries of Muslim aggression against Christian lands and peoples

Islam divides the world into the House of Islam (where Islam rules) and the House of War (where it doesn't). The two are permanently at war; there may be temporary truces, but peace will come only upon the completion of global conquest

When Muslims are a minority community, the Koran permits them to adopt a peaceful attitude to deceive their neighbors, until they feel strong enough to dispense with the pretense

The massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger in sheer numbers than the Holocaust

Muslim persecution of Christians has caused suffering and death for millions over 13 centuries -- and continues today

The myth of Islam's "tolerance" of religious minorities contradicts its teaching, history, and present reality

Islam's "golden age" was parasitic on the Christian cultures and peoples it conquered, and ended when it "killed the host"

In 1993, Saudi Arabia's supreme religious authority declared that the world is flat, and that anyone who disagrees is an infidel to be punished

Like Communism, Islam cannot foster prosperity, and is always reliant on plunder or unearned wealth (e.g., from oil)

Islam recognizes no distinction between temporal and divine authority; the only "legitimate" government is a theocracy

America's "ally" Saudi Arabia remains the most intolerant Islamic regime in the world, where the practice of any religion besides Islam is as strictly prohibited as in Mohammed's day

The first imam to deliver a Muslim prayer for the U.S. House of Representatives in 1991, declared in 1997 that Muslims will eventually elect the president and replace the constitutional government with an Islamic caliphate

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» Sorry this is longer than I thought. Posted by: thinkprogress
» Sympathy for the Devil Posted by: HeroesAll
IanA
Posted by: Alladin on Jul 22, 2006 4:20 AM   
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If you read more you might know how to spell phobia.

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» RE: That isn't helpful Posted by: txjill
» RE: That isn't helpful Posted by: deo508
» RE: IanA Posted by: frogman
» RE: IanA Posted by: davewuxi
understand history
Posted by: rsaxto on Jul 22, 2006 4:53 AM   
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If we understand history then we can understand why the Bushies and others are determined to repeat the worst aspects of history and to go on to mastermind the end of history and the death of democracy.

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» RE: understand history Posted by: justgreenleaf
Hal Weiner
Posted by: druidlaw on Jul 22, 2006 5:07 AM   
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I think you left off a few good titles that may
further enlighten the readership. Try:

Meron Benvenisti's SACRED LANDSCAPE... his father
was the cartographer who obliterated 3,000 years
of Palestinian existence from the map of Israel
at the order of David Ben Gurion. He was deputy
Mayor of Jerusalem for several years.

Robert Fisk's THE GREAT WAR FOR CIVILISATION
He is the correspondent in Beirut for THE INDEPENDENT
and has written widely on the Middle East for
years.His prior book " PITY THE NATION " about Lebanon,
is a modern masterpiece.

Imam Faisal Rauf's WHAT'S RIGHT WITH ISLAM
Imam Rauf, spiritual leader of the SUFIs in the
US, admittedly is not any more mainstream Islam
than I am mainstream Christian.... but he is still
one of the " good guys ".

And you can't get along these days without subscribing
to Rabbi Arthur Waskow's e mails from the Shalom Center
in Philadelphia, PA. Google him.

And of course, for ligher reading there's always
the Bush White House primer: Machiavelli: THE PRINCE,
an oldie but goodie of the New World Orderists. Too bad
the pious in Washington don't read the Old Testament
beyond Levitticus. " As ye sow, so shall ye reap. "

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» A couple more Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: You can say that again! Posted by: trustinme
» RE: You can say that again! Posted by: HeroesAll
» Robert Fisk's book Posted by: hagwind
» RE: obert Fisk's book Posted by: vand
» RE: You can say that again! Posted by: syberberg
Canadians in Beruit
Posted by: davidsoori on Jul 22, 2006 5:20 AM   
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Here are your daily Bloglet subscriptions:

Jews sans frontieres - http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com

Many thanks to Stephen Marks for drawing my attention to this Juan Cole post.
.From Rasha [a young woman] in Beirut: "Dear All, I am drafting this entry in this unusual diary at 11:30 pm. I have about half an hour before the generator shuts down. Most of Beirut is in the dark. I dare not imagine what the country is like. Today was a relatively calm day, but like most calm days that come immediately after tumultuous days, it was a sinister day of taking stock of damage, pulling bodies from under destroyed buildings, shuttling injured to hospitals that have the capacity to tend to their wounds more adequately. The relative calm allowed journalists to visit the sites of shelling and violence. The images from Tyre, and villages in the south are shocking. Images from Haret Hreyk (the neighborhood in the southern suburb that received the most "focused" shelling) are also astounding. The number of deaths is yet uncertain, it increases by the hour as bodies are pulled from the landscape of destruction. In the southern suburbs, some people may be trapped in underground shelters under the vestiges of their homes and apartment buildings. And yes, there is a problem of space in morgues in the south and the Beqaa, because none of the towns and villages are equipped to handle these numbers of deaths. The IDF has destroyed almost entirely the village of 'Aytaroun. Some of the surviving wounded are Canadian citizens. Like the 8 Canadians who died in the building in Tyre (a building that housed the red cross and civil rescue), the Canadian government has had very little regard for them. Evacuations, Privilege, Solidarity Today was a particularly strange day for me because I was granted an opportunity to leave tomorrow morning. I hold a Canadian passport. I was born in Toronto when my parents were students there. I left at age two. I have never gone back, for lack of opportunity and occasion, no other reason. I have the choice to sign up for the evacuation, but the European and North American governments have been so despicable, so racist that I don't want to subject myself to a discrimination of that sort. The Swedes, the Danes and the Germans have evacuated their patriots with blond hair and blue eyes. The immigrants that were given shelter to their countries "out of the kindness" of their governments have been systematically left behind; and the guest workers who stayed to enliven their economies and their babies who adjust the dynamism of their demographies, were left behind to fend for shelter under the shells. But I digress. The point I set out to make is that I refuse to be evacuated as a second tier denizen. I had the opportunity to leave tomorrow by car to Syria, then to Jordan and from there by plane to wherever I am supposed to be right now. For days I have been itching to leave because I want to pursue my professional commitments, meet deadlines and continue with my life. For days I have been battling ambivalence towards this war, estranged from the passions it has roused around me and from engagement in a cause. And yet when the phone call came informing me that I had to be ready at 7:00 am the next morning, I asked for a pause to think. I was torn. The landscape of the human and physical ravages of Israel's genial strategy at implementing UN Resolution 1559, the depth of destruction, the toll of nearly 250 deaths, more than 800 injured and 400,000 displaced, had bound me to a sense of duty. It was not even patriotism; it was actually the will to defy Israel. They cannot do this and drive me away. They will not drive me away. This is one of the most recurring mistakes that the IDF makes. This is how we see things: THEY have destroyed this country,
Link
Jews sans frontieres - http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com

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» RE: You're not alone Posted by: trustinme
Here's one that also has USA history entwined
Posted by: wawa on Jul 22, 2006 6:24 AM   
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In a few weeks
KEEP HOPE ALIVE
will be available on Amazon.com, etc

KEEP HOPE ALIVE is based on the memoirs of a 1948 Palestinian Muslim refugee from the Upper Galilee who made his way to the USA in 1952 and a career in the Defense Industry with Top Secret Clearance during the Cold War.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE is also about how the events of 9/11 brought him and an American Irish dissident -
and child of the '60's who has never been satisfied with easy answers together.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE also picks up where the DaVini Code left you off for KEEP HOPE ALIVE challenges church as well as state.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE is also an opportunity for YOU to do something positive as 100% of my royalties will go to the YWCA and YMCA in Bethlehem/Jerusalem's
KEEP HOPE ALIVE Olive Tree Campaign
which will provide olive trees and irrigation supplies for Gaza.

-eileen fleming,
activist, reporter, editor and
Producer of

"30 Minutes with Vanunu"
UNCENSORED by Israeli Military
Streaming freely on the
.org
WeAreWideAwake

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what about all the anti semitic muslim books
Posted by: maysday on Jul 22, 2006 7:34 AM   
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you fail to mention the untold and complete antisemetic behavior that is considered appropriate in all arab states. As long as they condone this form of hatred they can cry all the way to the cemetary for the crimes and hatred that muslims ,islam and whatever form of prejudice you protect

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thanks
Posted by: robchapman on Jul 22, 2006 7:45 AM   
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My greetings and thanks to the main article author for her book list.
I will read them and more than likely assign parts to interested students.

Robert Chapman
Brooktendale, New York

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Nothing on Iraq?!
Posted by: umrayya on Jul 22, 2006 9:14 AM   
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Ah yes! While Iraq, the linchpin of this entire enterprise, burns for going on four years now and the chaos, blood and destruction continue to spiral out of control in the hands of the brilliant and capable American neo colonial effort, there is not a single suggestion here - not one - for a book on that country. Actually, it would appear that Iraq has suddenly dropped off the map. How easily you westerners are distracted, and how lucky that is for the politicians you so freely elect!

Since no one seems interested in Iraq anymore, perhaps this is a waste of time, nevertheless I will list a few books here just in case there are one or two people left who think it is still there and still significant:

Middle East History in general:

The Great War for Civilization by Robert Fisk

Iraq in particular:

Iraq: From Sumer to Saddam by Geoff Simons (a very good general history by an author who realizes that Iraqi history does not begin and end with Saddam. The most recent edition contains considerable material dealing with the so-called "Gulf" war.)

"Iraq in the Eye of the Storm" by Dilip Hiro

Bush in Babylon by Tariq Ali

The Bush Agenda: Conquering the World One Economy at a Time by Antonia Juhasz (Not strictly about Iraq, but helps define and substantiate the economic reasons behind the attempted takeover.)

Iraq Under Siege Edited by Anthonly Arnove. A set of articles on the sanctions and their effect.

"War Plan Iraq" by Milan Rai

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» RE: Nothing on Iraq?! Posted by: vand
A biased list of anti-Israeli propaganda
Posted by: goldbeme on Jul 22, 2006 10:25 AM   
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Calling Juan Cole the leading expert on the Middle East is like calling President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran the leading expert on the Holocaust.

Read Tom Segev on the British Mandate, or Benny Morris.

Consider what the United States would do if the Mexicans, in their campaign to reannex San Antonio, Los Angeles, and San Francisco lobbed rockets into El Paso and San Diego.

The Arabs turned down a perfectly reasonable partition plan in 1948, and have been suffering from their intransigence ever since. The refugee problem arose from the gamble that the refugees would return behind the victorious Arab armies. Hamas still has the goal of driving the Israelis into the sea and reoccupying Tel Aviv. Given that, until they agree to live peacefully with a secure Israel, why should not the Israelis defend themselves?

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20th century Iraqi history
Posted by: brunowe on Jul 22, 2006 10:32 AM   
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Two books I rather liked were:
A History of Iraq by Charles Tripp which covers Iraq from its establishment by the British to about 2002

Iraq Since 1958 by Marion Farouk-Sluggett and Peter Sluggett which starts with the republican revolution of 1958.

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A 'must-read' indy book, America Deceived
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jul 22, 2006 12:03 PM   
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Just finished the book "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III which has gotten alot of press because it was forced off Amazon and pressured off Wikipedia (who admitted a conspiracy).
Last link (before it is forced off Google Books and falls into the memory hole):
America Deceived - Book

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What to read? Here's a good start:
Posted by: greentime on Jul 22, 2006 12:08 PM   
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The Declaration of Independence

The People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn

The Earth Charter

The platform of the Green Party

An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore
(or go see the movie)

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...and then read:
Posted by: greentime on Jul 22, 2006 12:11 PM   
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Two Books by David Korten:

When Corporations Rule The World

The Great Turning, From Empire to Earth Community

Why? Because the planet is dying and we need to get with it and FAST! Let's evolve and be part of the next great culture instead of the old tired, dead one. C'mon people! Let's go!

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Some of my best friends are Americans
Posted by: Roland on Jul 22, 2006 1:51 PM   
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Just in case it is news to anyone that hasn't already figured it out, Saddam Hussein has got the U.S. right where he wants US. And if anyone is on trial, especially after the charade AKA the G8 summit, it is George Bush. It's open season. Take cover.

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Juan Cole, the World's Leading Expert on the Middle East?!!!!
Posted by: umrayya on Jul 22, 2006 8:15 PM   
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Why? Just because he has (justifiably) one of the most widely read blogs on the Middle East and is one of a tiny handful of real experts who are very occasionally interviewed by the media (as opposed to the ignoramuses they usually bring on)?

Juan Cole might be the world's leading expert on his area of specialization within Middle East studies, but to call him the Worlds Leading Expert on the Middle East is - well, ridiculous.

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It's IRA all over again
Posted by: Ghostsmachine on Jul 22, 2006 9:43 PM   
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I'd like to know what Israeli apologists would have done in the days of "the troubles" in Ireland.
Up to about 15 years ago, Ireland too had a sizable population sympathetic to a "terrorist organization". The government of Ireland had little choice but to deal with many factions within the state. One of those "factions" was called the IRA. Like Hezbollah in Lebanon, Irish politicians had to account for the "pro terrorist vote". Like Hezobollah, the IRA was often funded by foreign sympathizers. (In the case of the IRA, much money came from U.S. citizens).
It has been almost 31 years to the day since the IRA took "credit" for a roadside bomb that killed 4 British soldiers.

The logic that Israeli apologists exercise to serve recent events can leave one with the impression that back in 1975, these same "people" would have cheered the British bombing of Dublin or Belfast.

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Has anyone yet mentioned...
Posted by: HeroesAll on Jul 22, 2006 10:52 PM   
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...Edward Said? He's always worth reading, I think. And Tariq Ali (I know someone cited one of his books).

And at least one person has already mentioned that at least some of the books cited so far suffer from the 'Orientalist' bias of self-important Western scholars who look at any other culture and history from their own Western point of view, rather than trying to see it from the perspective of those who've lived it.

An important issue, and part of the problem that I've brought up elsewhere: namely, that far too many people assume their own ways are best/special/unique/whatever, while judging others by that yardstick. If the world was hit with an empathy bomb, I think we'd all be a lot better off. If people really tried to see others' points of view, there'd be less killing, although probably more argument.

'Walk a mile in my shoes' is one of the best bits of advice for world peace I can think of. 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone' is another, along with 'Do unto others as you would be done by'. No, I'm not a Christian, but I've done a lot of reading, and there's some moral worth in the New Testament.

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Answer distortion with more?
Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 22, 2006 10:58 PM   
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I'll never understand why, to the left, not trusting the Israelis translates into trusting the muslims who hate the Israelis. This book list appears to be entriely one-sided.

Even if the press is offering a distorted picture of the middle-east, and of the conflicts between Israel and its neighbors, the answer to me isn't providing an opposite, also distorted view, it's providing views that take a dispassionate look at all sides of the conflict/s, if that is possible.

Is it possible?

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» Guess again Posted by: YogiBear
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» RE: Guess again Posted by: YogiBear
Mesopotamia is
Posted by: blackinjun on Jul 23, 2006 5:59 AM   
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NOT the so called "cradle of civilization." that's a white supremacist ploy to justify the treatment of Africans which the Arabs are a party..They deny their "Africaness" in favor of their Euro parent...

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CIVILIZATION WATCHDOG GROUP LAUNCHED
Posted by: SpreadingANUS on Jul 23, 2006 6:15 AM   
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Group Monitors Overall Direction of Civilization

AUSTIN, TX - A group of citizens concerned about everything from politics to recycling got together and agreed that, no matter what little issues we target, our values as a civilization are off-track. To fix this problem, they've created a new not-for-profit corporation called Corrupt whose goal is to expose where our values differ from reality.

"We found more answers in art and philosophy than politics," said founding director Chris Stevens. "Every single little problem we identified was the result of a bigger one, and those in turn, the result of our loss of any kind of unified direction in values. Society is adrift and without direction, selfishness and greed have taken over the human species."

Corrupt has launched a website, www.corrupt.org, and will produce a monthly newsletter and book informing citizens of where civilization has gone wrong -- and what we can do about it. "A big frustration for people is how to fix something this big," said Stevens. "We did some thinking and it's easier and faster than you might think."

In the process of gaining non-profit status, Corrupt has already pledged itself to Total Open-Mindedness when considering solutions or values because, as Stevens says, "What one era of history considers taboo may be seen as positive thinking in another." If you are interested in joining or supporting Corrupt, please visit us on the web at corrupt.org.

About Corrupt

Corrupt, Inc. is a civilization watchdog built on the premise that when humans form a mental image of the world that does not correspond to reality, they become corrupt and destroy themselves. Our goal is to look for this cognitive dissonance and to point it out with research, intelligence reports, pranks and political activism. We believe in a better human future by embracing reality and not silly bureaucratic, academic or emotional abstractions.

Contact: Steve Martinez
http://www.corrupt.org/

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Corrolaries to "What to read"...
Posted by: SpreadingANUS on Jul 23, 2006 6:23 AM   
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Revolt Against the Modern World by Julius Evola

Men Among the Ruins by Julius Evola

The Bhagavad Gita trans. Barbara Miller

The Crisis of the Modern World by Rene Guenon

The Last Man by Mary Shelley

Feel free to e-mail me for more suggestions!

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Gilad Atzmon's article
Posted by: srqwolf on Jul 23, 2006 6:55 AM   
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Gilad Atzmon

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Lebanon, Israel and the all-out American propaganda campaign
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 23, 2006 9:31 AM   
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In a previous post I noted that the PR coming out of the MidEast had a tinny, 50's era feel to it - but that's not the case for the propaganda currently being put out by the US media system - it's much slicker. It's played as a 'fair and balanced war' - both sides are attacking each other - yet I don't see half a million Israelis fleeing their country, I don't see billions of dollars in damage done to Israeli infrastructure, and I see a lot more dead Lebanese then Israelis. And this is supposedly all over two kidnapped soldiers? Israel is not 'defending itself', it is attacking its neighbors for political gain with the complicit support of the US government. It is possible that neocon elements within the US government could be trying to draw Syria into a war with Israel as a pretext for a US invasion of Syria. Nutcases.

Note that propaganda is not lying - that's disinformation. Propaganda is the selective use of real information to produce a distorted image - so certain 'facts' are buried and other 'facts' are presented on a Broadway stage over and over again. Goebbels said the key to successful propaganda was to take controversial issues, simplify them to the point a small child could understand them, and then repeat endlessly.

You really should not underestimate the effectiveness of propaganda - moreover, you should make an active effort to counter it - listen for the subtleties. One good exercise is to watch TV commercials with the sound turned off and a stopwatch in your hand - time the commercials and the edit cuts - and then turn the sound back on - you'll find that it's much harder to pay attention to details with the sound on. Listen to the bland, insipid, pacifying nature of NPR talk shows, and compare that to the angry, emotionalized 'reporting' on FOX news, and ask youself, now why is that so? Modern PR is based on modern knowledge of neurology and psychology - you have to work hard to get around it.

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Some facts about the Grand Muffti
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jul 23, 2006 10:30 AM   
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It's interesting how the pro-arabs debate here. Facts are dismissed as "propaganda". When cornered, they resort to word games.

Let's go back to that great leader of Palestine, the Grand Muffti of Jerusalem. He and his followers joined the German side of WWII. That's "joined", not "sympathized with". They fought the Brits, threatened to turn oil fields over to the Germans, attacked and killed Jews, etc.

When they lost and fled the Middle East, the Grand Muffti moved to Germany and went to work for the Germans. He was broadcast into the Arab world with anti-Jewish propaganda, and urged arabs to kill Jews and drive them out of Arab countries. The GM himself was given command of an SS unit. He prevented Jews from being deported from Eastern Europe to Palestine, which resulted in their deaths in German Concentration camps. His SS unit was one of the most sadistic.

After the war the GM should have been hung like the war crimminal he was, but because of his Arab and religious connections, he was released.

It would seem that this history (along with the sorry record of the GM's heirs) doesn't get into this debate. Nor does the European record AFTER WWII. Poland was still attacking Jews and driving them out of the country well after the Third Reich collapsed. I'm sure that the idea of a Jewish Homeland appealed to Europeans as a way to keep Jewish land and property. Once the smoke cleared, they seem to found their bigot's voice, especially since nobody is asking them to return their Jewish booty.

It would be interesting to see exactly what the Arab sollution actually is regarding Israel. Underneath it all, it's kill the jews, take over the land, and live in "peace"-- nothing but pure Nihilism.

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Canadians in Lebanon
Posted by: coalbanks on Jul 23, 2006 1:14 PM   
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You have my sympathy for your losses & the hardships you have endured while in Lebanon and the difficulties and the frustrations of the evacuation. But I cannot agree with your complaints about the Canadian government's efforts to rescue you from a situation ion which you placed yourselves.You went, voluntarily, to a part of the world well known for it's volitility, instability & violence. The Canadian gov't. has warned people about travel in the"Levant" "Middle East". What was YOUR plan for survival/escape if/when the violence erupted again? No plan at all from the looks of things for the most part. Some cautious individuals got out as soon as Hizballah & Israel clashed. Some stayed, bad move. When the Lebanese-Canadians showed up to be evacuated most had not thought to carry water, blankets, etc to make the situation more bearable. Instead they complained that the gov't. had been irresponsible/unready/inadequate, etc. B.S! Would you prefer that the gov't had forbade you from going to a dangerous part of the world? No.You would have considered it an infringement of your rights. What about your responsibilities to yourself/family/country not to palce yourself in harm's way? So quit complaining & start thanking the Canadian gov't .for it's efforts to get you out., which it has done with few if any deaths & in a relatively swift & painless manner, given the conditions & lack of preparedness of the individuals involved. I agree the Canadian gov't. should/could have been better prepared, but where does that end? A fleet of ships off all seacoasts prepared to evacuate from all parts of the planet? Take some responsibility for yourselves & be grateful the Canadian gov't. had the resources & the compassion to do as much or a little as it did. It was more than most of you could or did for yourselves. Would you prefer to be a Lebanese/Palistinian/Israeli refugee in any of those countries today? Not likely.

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Devil's Game
Posted by: elisabeth on Jul 23, 2006 4:05 PM   
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Also read "Devil's Game ; How the US helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam." By Robert Dreyfuss.

I recently received a Propagandistic email in which embedded within a rediculous, anonymous article written by, supossedly an Australian Dentist in response to an anti American article in Pakistan (Pakistan is the condom through which the US entered Afghanistan- Tariq Ali). The anonymous editorial claimed the US was all great things and slipped into the desciption of America was how great we were "[because in the 80's when Afghanistan needed help, we intervened and helped the people.]"

Yeah- we helped the people. The mujahideen people like Osama Bin ladin.

The "America can do no wrong crowd" loves this stuff and are seldom informed enough to realize that America helped support the very factions of terrorism that have subsequently turned upon ourselves. This was the cold war strategy- anyone against the Russians is our friend. How wrong can you be. What kind of black and white world do these people lve in?

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i liked...
Posted by: adp3d on Jul 24, 2006 3:53 AM   
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...a book called "In'sah Allah", a fictional account of a small squad of Italian soldiers manning a check point in Beirut in the early 80's. It was written by an Italian women whose name I can't recall...

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Devil's Game (sorry to steal your title elizabeth)
Posted by: cold2touch on Jul 24, 2006 10:35 AM   
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But it is too good to pass up on and I cannot think of a better one.
The more I find out, the worse it looks.
Not only did America design some of the worst terrorists of the century, with regular CIA staffers like Saddam, Osama and Noriega on payroll but I have no doubt that they colluded on numerous acts of terror, were acutely aware of their planning and likely directly executed a bunch of them.
Daniel Ellsberg, who should know a thing or two about the darker side of this rock says so and I believe him.
Check this link out:
If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country

On the subject of the current Measured Response to Hezbollah Provocation by IDF, the following article by Mathew Kalman states that Israel was carefully planning for years to destroy Lebanon's infrastucture at the first opportunity.
Nothing new here, except that as Juan Cole points out, in light of George's recent open mike gaffe, where he opines to Tony Blair that Syria should stop this shit, Rumsfeld and Cheney, who were obviously well informed of IDF's plans, clearly operate independently and don't see need to inform Clueless George, even less ask his permission.
So, when George states that he had no clue about the up and coming Twin Towers inferno, for once we could believe him.

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ECLECTICIST, S. JIMRODRIGUEZ
Posted by: SJR505 on Jul 25, 2006 7:06 PM   
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IT APPEARS TO ME THAT MOHAMMAD AND HIS MUSLIM HORDES CAN BE BEST DESRIBED AS LOST HUMAN BEINGS EXERCISING THEIR "MUTUAL MENTAL MASTURBATION...", NOTHING ELSE...ALL THEIR ACTIONS, BELIEFS, RELIGION, ETC ARE MANMADE , NOT BLESSED BY "EL SENOR"...THEIR ACTIONS FLY IN THE FACE OF ANY OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS...HISTORY PROVES AGAIN, AGAIN, AND THEN AGAIN THAT VIOLENCE HAS NOT, AND DOES NOT BRING ABOUT PEACE AND HARMONY...

S=JIM=RODRIGUEZ+++ECLECTICIST SEEKER+++

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This all seems way to Biblical
Posted by: Sanballot on Jul 27, 2006 2:07 PM   
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