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The Drug War's Latest Tally: 872,721 Pot Arrests, an All-Time High

By Paul Armentano, AlterNet. Posted September 16, 2008.


Cannabis arrests now comprise nearly 47.5 percent of all drug arrests in the United States, 89% of them for mere possession.
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If denial is the first sign of addiction, then Drug Czar John Walters is hooked to the gills. He's addicted to targeting and arresting marijuana consumers, and he'll do and say anything to keep this irrational and punitive policy in place.

Speaking earlier this month on C-Span, the reigning Czar stretched his usual deceit to outrageous new heights. Responding to a question from the Marijuana Policy Project's Dan Bernath, Walters flatly denied the charge that over 800,000 Americans are arrested annually for violating pot laws.

"We didn't arrest 800,000 marijuana users," Walters proclaimed. "That's [a] lie."

If only it were.

According to data released yesterday in the FBI's annual Uniform Crime Report, police in 2007 arrested over 872,000 US citizens - that's nearly one out of every two Americans busted for illicit drugs -- for weed. (The raw data is available from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation here and here.) That figure is a five percent increase over the total number of Americans busted in 2006. It's more than three times the number of citizens charged with pot violations sixteen years ago.

Of those arrested in 2007, 89 percent - some 775,000 Americans -- were charged with simple pot possession, not trafficking, cultivation, or sale. (By comparison, 27 percent of those arrested for heroin and cocaine offenses were charged with sales.) Three out of four were under age 30; one in four were 18-years-old or younger.

The FBI's tally is the highest marijuana arrest total ever-reported in law enforcement history. If this pace continues, annual arrests for pot will surpass one million per year by 2010.

But to hear America's top drug cop tell it few, if any, citizens are ever arrested for pot possession, and absolutely no one goes to jail for breaking marijuana laws.

"The fact is today, people don't go to jail for the possession of marijuana," Walters alleged on C-Span. "Finding somebody in jail or prison for possession of marijuana is like finding a unicorn. It doesn't exist."

Not true says the U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics, which reported last year in black and white -- perhaps the Drug Czar is reading impaired - that 12.7 percent of state inmates and 12.4 percent of federal inmates incarcerated for drug abuse violations are serving time for marijuana offenses. Combining these percentages with separate U.S. Department of Justice statistics on the total number of state and federal drug prisoners suggests that, at a minimum, there are now about 33,655 state inmates and 10,785 federal inmates behind bars for marijuana offenses. (The report failed to include estimates on the percentage of inmates incarcerated in county or local jails for pot-related offenses, nor did it take into account the number of inmates serving time for violating the terms of their marijuana-related probation, such as those who submitted a 'dirty' urine to their parole officer.)

No matter how one slices it, that's a lot of unicorns.

It also begs the question: Why does the Drug Czar feel the need to go to such absurd lengths to hide this overt outgrowth of American drug policy? After all, the US Drug Enforcement Administration and the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy typically issue chest-thumping press releases when they achieve record busts for offenses involving cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamine? Why then do they shy away from making similar proclamations for pot?

Perhaps it's because, deep down, even the Drug Czar knows that the use of cannabis does not pose anywhere near the health and safety threat as does the use of other intoxicants, including alcohol, and that most Americans - rightly - would be outraged to learn that our nation's so-called war on drugs is really just an assault on young adults caught with small bags of weed.

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Paul Armentano is the Deputy Director of NORML and The NORML Foundation in Washington, DC.

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Drug Prohibition has nothing to do with health!!!
Posted by: aussidawg on Sep 16, 2008 12:44 AM   
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Face it folks, the reason drugs are illegal is because by keeping them that way, profits remain ungodly high. Is it a coincidence that opium production increased 700% in Afganistan once we took "control" from the Taliban?

Look, the way illegal drug money works is Afganistan sends the raw opium to Turkey. Turkey the converts the raw opium into heroin, which acording to investigators are then imported by the CIA in America, or MI-5 or MI-6 in the UK. Turkey then uses the money they make from the sale of heroin to buy weapons from our MIC. The CIA, MI-5 and MI-6 use the money they get from the non-taxible black market to provide funds for black projects.

Drug laws never have been about protecting the public health. At first, they were used to discriminate against the Chinese (opium dens were only legal if a white man was in charge), cocaine was outlawed because it made black men attack white women, and weed was outlawed because we Muricans didn't like Messkins. Now that the government has found a very highly profitable substance to deal in (they win from both ends...the prison industry wins from busts and the government wins directly fromm sales. The practical thing as far as pubic health is concerned is to legalize all drugs and tax them, which would provide a financial base for those seeking treatment. But then once you consider the reasoning behind the drug war, do you really think the government will give up such a cash cow? No way!

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» Sources? Posted by: manatthewindow
» RE: Sources? Posted by: cdub
» RE: Sources? Posted by: manatthewindow
I never smoked pot and won't do it again, either....
Posted by: VetAgainst McCain on Sep 16, 2008 12:55 AM   
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until they make it legal.

But more seriously, folks, I wrote about the subject indirectly in a 2004 nonfiction book about politics this way:

In 1963, Laura Bush, then a Midland teenager busy chatting with her girlfriend passenger, drove through a stop sign, T-boned a car that had the right-away and killed its driver.

Guess what kind of traffic citation she got?

She didn’t.

Incredibly, the future First Lady committed negligent homicide, an offense ordinary people in Midland would’ve gone to jail for, and she didn’t even have to pay a fine.

So what kind of legal system was that, anyway?

Back then, it was called “Justice for the Lone State Elite” in a state that tried ordinary teenagers Laura’s age as adults and put them in prison for years simply because they inhaled fumes from a burning marijuana leaf.

Lower status kids were punished for smoking pot that only harmed themselves (maybe), but it was perfectly okay to commit manslaughter with an automobile if you were like Laura, part of the Lone Star Elite.



Vet against McCain
To find out why, click on the links below:

Songbird McCain
(Popular anti-McCain Web site)
American View (My favorite anti-GOP Web site
Vietnam Veterans Against McCain
(self-explanatory)
Vote Vets
(supported by 100,000 Iraq and Afghan war vets)

PS: I have smoked pot and found it quite enjoyable.

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What a big surprise!
Posted by: eeuropean2000 on Sep 16, 2008 4:59 AM   
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What? A Bush administration official lying through his ass? What a huge surprise from an administration which, from the doofus-in-chief on down has dispensed with the truth almost entirely on any question more complicated than "what time is it?" The American "war on drugs" is absolutely ludicrous. As noted by another commentator, all that it ensures is massive riches for those who produce drugs, and those do not tend to be savory people at all. Thank God, the train wreck that the Bush Administration has been will be gone in just four months. But if America elects John "Bush Lite" McPander and Sarah "Fascist" Palin, then all hope is lost for the country, that is an absolute fact.

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ARREST SOMEONE CHEWING CHERRY TWIGS
Posted by: caru on Sep 16, 2008 5:05 AM   
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hey, did you know cannabis is safer than aspirin? ... and chewing on cherry twigs delivers aspirin like affects to the body ... omg lets go arrest people chewing cherry twigs.


that guy on cspan, walters, is he like even semi - conscious to planet earth and the miraculous wonder the mother gives to us every day the sun rises ...


i am in the thought that all this really is an extension of women hating, earth hating, witch burning, herbalist and wise women denying ...


and i do not think killing a defenseless animal from a plane is wise. since i generally think of wise as kind.

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Instead of complaining, you people could help Ron Paul pass the Hemp Farming Act.
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 16, 2008 5:39 AM   
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That bill will go a long ways to getting rid of the ban on Cannabis. Face it. Oil isn't getting cheaper and stuff made with fossil fuels can also be made with hemp. Can we focus on the 26000 industrial uses of Cannabis for a change please?

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Start a new....
Posted by: johnjmccarthy on Sep 16, 2008 6:13 AM   
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If you happen to snort a line or two in the future, keep thinking the act, and the high, as your patriotic duty by supporting government drug dealing to support activities outlawed by congress. Yeh, Ollie!

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» RE: Start a new.... Posted by: Lauren
They cannot admit to what they are doing.
Posted by: Cybershaman on Sep 16, 2008 6:15 AM   
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The Republicans have had great success persecuting and arresting liberals because they like to assemble and party.
What was once a gigglefest has become a pogram to keep minority populations behaviors from infiltrating white cultures alchohol soaked patterns.
It is also effectively used to harrass progressive politicians and prevent them from being able to gain public office. Felons can't vote, and you can't vote in jail. It's a win-win for the GOP so why should they admit to what they're up to.

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make marijuana safe and legal (part 1)
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 16, 2008 7:03 AM   
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A pamphlet entitled "10 Things Every Parent, Teenager and Teacher Should Know About Marijuana" produced by the Family Council on Drug Awareness tells us marijuana is not physically addictive. The 1980 Costa Rican study, the 1975 Jamaican study and the 1972 Nixon Blue Ribbon Report all concluded that marijuana use does not lead to physical dependency. The FBI reports that 65 to 75 percent of criminal violence is alcohol-related. On the other hand, Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger testified before Congress in 1948 that marijuana leads to nonviolence and pacifism.

In a message to Congress on August 2, 1977, President Jimmy Carter insisted: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."

Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Law Judge Francis L. Young wrote on September 8, 1988: "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

After years of suppression by the government, the truth about medical marijuana is finally coming out. Dr. Tod Mikuriya, former director of marijuana research for the entire federal government, wrote in 1996: "I was hired by the government to provide scientific evidence that marijuana was harmful. As I studied the subject, I began to realize that marijuana was once widely used as a safe and effective medicine. But the government had a different agenda, and I had to resign."

Tobacco kills about 430,700 each year. Alcohol and alcohol-related diseases and injuries kill about 110,000 per year. Secondhand tobacco smoke kills about 50,000 every year. Aspirin and other anti-inflammatory drugs kill 7,600 each year. Cocaine kills about 500 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Heroin kills about 400 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Adverse reactions to prescription drugs total 32,000 per year, while marijuana kills no one.

A November 4, 2002 Time/CNN Poll found that eighty percent of those polled felt marijuana should be legal only for therapeutic purposes. 72 percent felt recreational users should get fines rather than jail time, which is essentially decriminalization. The complete legalization of marijuana was favored only by 34 percent of respondents, but this figure is twice as large as it was in 1986. Marijuana is safer than alcohol and tobacco, and our drug laws should reflect this reality.

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make marijuana safe and legal (part 2)
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 16, 2008 7:04 AM   
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Throughout history, the legal and moral status of psychoactive drugs has kept changing. During the 17th century, the sale and consumption of tobacco were punished by death in much of Europe, Russia, China and Japan. For centuries, many of the Muslim domains that forbade alcohol sale and consumption simultaneously tolerated and even regulated the sale of opium and cannabis.

Each year, the U.S. government spends more than $30 billion on the drug war and arrests over 1.5 million people on drug-related charges. Over 318,000 people are now behind bars in the U.S. for drug violations, greater than the total number of people incarcerated for all crimes in England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain combined.

Our government is calling for billions of dollars to fight a drug war it can't win. Roughly 75 percent of this money goes to enforcing laws and regulations, but only 15 percent goes to drug education and prevention, and a only a meager 10 percent goes to treatment for addicts.

During the 1950s, long-term prison sentences against drug users choked the courts, strained and disrupted prisons and drove black-market prices even higher. The latest casualty in the drug war has been our civil liberties: mandatory drug testing so we can all be “drug free”. Some of these tests have been struck down by the courts, where the government is the employer. But others have been upheld. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia denounced these drug tests as “an immolation of privacy and human dignity in symbolic opposition to drug use.”

Even putting America under martial law will not solve the nation's drug problem. Iran executes hundreds of drug offenders. Malaysia has hanged dozens of drug users in the past few years. In neither country has the drug problem receded. In fact, in Malaysia, the addiction rate continues to rise. On the other hand, the Dutch government, with its liberal social and political philosophy, tolerates drug use, and the addiction rate is declining.

According to a 2003 Zogby poll, two of every five Americans say “the government should treat marijuana the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it, tax it, and only make it illegal for children.” Close to 100 million Americans, including over half of those between the ages of 18 and 50, have tried marijuana at least once. Military and police recruiters often have no alternative but to ignore past marijuana use by job seekers.

In 1996, California voters passed a law to regulate medical marijuana within the state. In 2000, voters in California approved an initiative allowing people who are arrested for simple possession of drugs to go through a rehabilitation program rather than through the court process that would result in prison. Since the program began, most agree it has been very successful. It results in less recidivism and is considered cheaper than imprisonment.

Richard Posner, Chicago's chief judge of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and one of the nation's leading legal scholars, says marijuana use should be legalized as a way of reducing crime. Posner, a Reagan administration appointee once described by American Lawyer magazine as “the most brilliant judge in the country,” explained his views on marijuana in The Times Literary Supplement, a British publication, and in later interview:

“It is nonsense that we should be devoting so many law enforcement resources to marijuana," says Posner. "I am skeptical that a society that is so tolerant of alcohol and cigarettes should come down so hard on marijuana use and send people to prison for life without parole.”

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make marijuana safe and legal (part 3)
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 16, 2008 7:06 AM   
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Richard Posner is the highest-ranking judge to publicly favor the repeal of marijuana laws. Several judges of the federal district court, a level lower than the appeals court, have made similar calls, including Robert Sweet of New York and James Paine of Florida, both Carter Administration appointees.

New York University law professor Burt Neuborne said it's significant that “one of the leading intellectuals in the judicial system recognizes that the laws don't seem to be working well.”

Posner and other federal judges have complained that sentencing guidelines force them to give unjustly severe prison sentences to relatively minor drug offenders. Says Posner: “Prison terms in America have become appallingly long, especially for conduct that, arguably, should not be criminal at all. Only decriminalization is a sure route to a lower crime rate. It is sad that it appears so far below the horizon of political feasibility.”

Rufus King, a Washington, DC lawyer who has served on the President's Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice, calls the drug war, “A worthless crusade.” According to King, drug use is a social problem, not a law enforcement problem. He observes: “Cigarette use is declining through changes in cultural values in the population. Like most smokers and alcoholics, most users of illegal drugs poison themselves because they want to be intoxicated. No human force can do them much good until they want help.” King is optimistic that the current anti-drug hysteria will subside, and responsible and reasonable drug law policies will be adopted.

***

Dissenting from the recent Supreme Court ruling on the suspension of an Alaskan student for waving a banner -- "BONG HITS 4 Jesus" -- at a high school event, Justice John Paul Stevens takes the long view:

"...the current dominant opinion supporting the war on drugs in general, and our anti-marijuana laws in particular, is reminiscent of the opinion that supported the nationwide ban on alcohol consumption when I was a student. While alcoholic beverages are now regarded as ordinary articles of commerce, their use was then condemned with the same moral fervor that now supports the war on drugs...

"...just as Prohibition in the 1920's and early 1930's was secretly questioned by thousands of otherwise law-abiding patrons of bootleggers and speakeasies, today the actions of literally millions of otherwise law abiding users of marijuana, and of the majority of voters in each of the several states that tolerate medicinal uses of the product, lead me to wonder whether the fear of disapproval by those in the majority is silencing opponents of the war on drugs."

The Washington Post, July 26, 2007, reported: "Stevens compared the current marijuana ban to the abandoned alcohol ban and urged a respectful hearing for those who suggest 'however inarticulately' that the ban is 'futile' and that marijuana should be legalized, taxed and regulated instead of prohibited."

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commercial and industrial applications of hemp
Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 16, 2008 7:12 AM   
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Under our drug laws, even the growing of cannabis hemp -- the nonspyschoactive variety of the plant--is outlawed in order to enforce the marijuana laws.

Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, the seeds have been used for human consumption.

"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."

Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop. Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.

Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.

Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood. Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.

For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The current Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle." The U.S. is the only major industrialized nation that prohibits the growing of industrial hemp; anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.

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Either make it legal or stop using it
Posted by: jrmart on Sep 16, 2008 7:36 AM   
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Christ, is smoking pot so fucking great that people will risk jail time? If so, then it probably should be illegal. Any drug that is that addicting (including cigarettes) is dangerous.
i don't want to spend my taxes arresting and keeping people in custody, but i don't want to be on the road with a Marijuana hig driver either.
Until it is legal, STOP USING IT./

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» i just wanted to say.... Posted by: rafaeltoral
» So, is your point. . . Posted by: redceres
VetAgainst McCain is confused
Posted by: factus on Sep 16, 2008 7:53 AM   
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It's obvious that someone's a straight democrat party ticket puncher. It's pure deception to believe that Obama would do anything to end the war on drugs. He's a straight Democrat party ticket puncher, too. He has never voted anything but democrat. we all know that no one with a conscience ever agrees with every position. No. Obama is about getting power as a lacky. That's why he picked one of our nation's most senior drug warriors to be his running mate. Biden helped create the heinous ONDCP and coined the name Drug Czar. This is suppossed to be a democratic country. So, why does the democrat party give us a Czar of any kind? We don't need no stinkin Czars. Pull your heads out. The true Democrat Party died a long time ago. It's been completely hijacked by elitists who want to impose communism on our nation. Hasn't communism already been proven a disaster because it removes the profit motive? And, don't say that China's communist. It's dictatorial and semi-capitolist. Who's going to employ people when Obama finishes destroying small business by taxing the midddle class out of existance? Big business can not employ everyone. Plus, it's a myth that big business can be more easily monitored by our government. Ever heard of Enron? So, all we'll have is the very rich and the poor. Ask a poor man for a job and who's going to be left to pay the taxes? Obama/Biden is a disaster waiting to happen and if elected will bring about the 2nd American Revolution. Against them. Do I think that Bush is the best alternative. Heck no! I detest the Republicans. McCain wants to continue the disaster called the war on drugs. Republicans used to believe in States Rights. The used to beleive in people doing for themselves. They used to believe that the government should be involved only when necessary. No! The Republican Party has been hijacked, too. I don't see any difference between those two parties. Because, one's for big government and the nanny state. The other ones for big business and the nanny state. That's why people will switch over to the party that cares about us. I don't mean Bob Barr, he's a sell out. I'm talking about Ron Paul. But, he won't be elected. He'll have to form his own party. Don't laugh. Teddy Roosevelt did it. This election is a flop. We're screwed anyway we turn. We've been placed in the worst possible situation. We have to choose between the best of the worst. But, don't delude yourselves about Obama/Biden. They don't give one big d**n about us. Their both alike in that they will say and do anything to get elected. And, don't expect to control them if they do get in. Oops! I forgot all this talk is irrelevant. Because, it's the electoral college who picks our presidents. They have put people into the presidents office who didn't win the popular vote. This indicates that they elect whoever pays them the most for their votes. Now, where's the democracy in any of that? Time to wake up anyone who thinks like VetAgainst McCain. Only our Congessional votes give us any leverage and that's usually were we vote the straight party ticket. So, we get what our ignorance gives us.

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» RE: VetAgainst McCain is confused Posted by: left_libertarian
Author skews the statistics
Posted by: leafsong1 on Sep 16, 2008 8:08 AM   
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40,000 jailed for "marijuana offenses", but how many for simple possession? The author doesn't know, but uses slight of hand to imply that all of them are for "possession." I agree with the author's point, but deplore the dishonest attempt to fool me.

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» RE: Author skews the statistics Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Author skews the statistics Posted by: parmentano
» RE: Author skews the statistics Posted by: secularoptimist
How about a little science?
Posted by: NotJesus on Sep 16, 2008 8:23 AM   
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It is estimated that cannabis's LD-50 (the lethal dosage for 50% of test animals) is around
1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death, a cannabis smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as
much cannabis as is contained in one cannabis cigarette. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of cannabis within
about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

Cannabis is actually one of the safest substances on the planet to ingest.

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LEGALIZE IT!
Posted by: Pirate1 on Sep 16, 2008 8:33 AM   
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Folks, they approve of all things alcohol because alcohol fogs the cerebral cortex and make people followers and eventually leads to reptilian territorial displays. Don't believe me? watch people getting drunk together sometime. They slowly evolve into stupid and if there is enough booze, nasty.

Ganja, on the other hand quiets the left brain chatter and gives rise to the right brain's visions and intuitions. People get ideas about alternate ways of being and act on them which is considered dangerous by people who live to control you through media, consumerism and medication "therapy". Those who say ganja does this too, MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, quench their cotton mouth with alcohol which puts you right into the lizard mind and removes the good effects of the ganja. Don't mix them!

LEGALIZE!

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» RE: LEGALIZE IT! Posted by: lively56
Make pot not war...
Posted by: mikehattan on Sep 16, 2008 8:45 AM   
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The truth is, the effects of smoking pot makes a person less inclined towards violence and has a pacifying effect, neither of which would suit a militaristic nation such as the US. Not to mention the emptying and the consequencial loss of profits for the increasing number of privatized prisons. The total hypocrisy of this country's attitude toward marijuana and alchohol and tobbaco is mindboggling.

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Corporatism
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 16, 2008 9:18 AM   
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The reason arrests are up is because there is no longer any social stigma for smoking cannabis. Since the government no longer reflects the will of the people, bad laws continue. If GE and Bank of America want cannabis illegal, then it will stay that way. These laws are an illustration of what many sectors of society have always known. That the government is the biggest threat to the welfare and happiness of the people.

dboy

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and if you think 872721 in jail for pot is too many...
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Sep 16, 2008 9:50 AM   
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just wait until palin and mccain have 10+ million incarcerated for jaywalking...

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Reefer Madness vs Fear and Stupidity Madness
Posted by: okiedokey on Sep 16, 2008 12:06 PM   
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My university degree is Health Science with a minor in Biology. As preparation to teach high school students the "dangers of drugs," I once read a 700 page book on drugs. It was a real eye opener. I did not teach most of the school district drug curriculum because, frankly, it was horse sh*t. You have to be honest with kids or they just think everything you are trying to teach them is a bunch of horse sh*t.

I'll give you a good example of "government based drug facts." In the early 70's when LSD was so popular, the government came out with some manufactured lies about it causing chromosome breakage in humans. There were a lot better reasons for kids to avoid LSD, but telling lies helped make them suspect.

The lies told about marijuana then, still exist today, even in the face of new research. Why? Because the drug interdiction business is BIG BUSINESS. Think of how many jobs rely on the idiotic efforts to interdict drugs from coming into this country or the movement of drugs illegally manufactured or grown here. And, Ollie and the boys used drug money to buy arms for the Contras in Nicaragua.

Wasting money tracking down pot smokers is like pissing into the wind, but much more expensive. Making criminals out of pot smokers is absurd. When will these "moralistic idiots" learn that?

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and this costs the taxpayer, how much?
Posted by: mahembar on Sep 16, 2008 12:32 PM   
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Let me see now, that would be 872,000 times how much per day does it cost to feed, house, guard, ----hmmmmm is it worth it?

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Giuliani's Legacy of marijuana arrests
Posted by: fanny666 on Sep 16, 2008 12:41 PM   
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The year before Giuliani took office, 720 people were arrested for misdemeanor marijuana-related offenses; by 2000, the number had jumped to 59,495--an increase of 4,549 percent.

It's Giuliani Time: the Mussolini of Manhattan

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» giuliani is a *raving fascist*... Posted by: Annapurna1
Oh. What the Fuck, Legalize the Shit
Posted by: AlteredStates on Sep 16, 2008 4:12 PM   
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Blah, Blah, Blah. Once you demonize something, it stays demonized. The American public believes everything it HEARS. Pot was demonized in 1933 by industrialists wanting paper products (newsprint) to be made from trees. These industrialists (William Randolf Hurst in particular) had invested heavily in forestry. Hemp was a major challenger to his "kingdom" because it was easy to grow, produced more paper products per acre than trees do, and could be harvested every 3 to 6 months. It can be grown like corn or cotton, so every little mom and pop sized farm can grow it without using fertilizer or pesticides so the oil industry looses out on that end too. Growing hemp is so much better, in every way, it is a wonder that we don't change over to it's many and varied uses, especially with the energy crisis growing worse and worse by the day. But making the quantum leap from wood to hemp is something the world will NEVER make. Just think of who would be loosing out if hemp went into major world-wide production. Oil would take a big hit, with oil prices dropping to a fraction of what they are today. The oil by-products industry would be gutted also because hemp can be used for all the same purposes that oil is used for today, and produced for a lot less money. The end result that a paradigm shift from oil to hemp would be, WORLD-WIDE WAR!!! But the wars that would result from such a change would be started on purpose by the same people that own the oil and the processing plants and factories. But the real reason for war would be hidden from the public and some other lame excuse would be laid out to cover their tracks and get people to fight and die for them. Do you think, for one minute, that the likes of the Bush family, Chaney, the Rockefeller's, the Bass brothers, Getty, Hunt, the Saudis, the Russians, just to name a few, would standby and watch their kingdoms crumble? I think not. Pot will never be legalized, no matter what the argument. Legalizing pot is just another pipe dream. So, dream-on motherfuckers.

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Turn the Page
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Sep 16, 2008 4:30 PM   
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All of the substances that are injuring people the most are LEGAL.

To the government you're a sin tax revenue stream, and they aren't concerned about whether you get sick and die from the shit they're peddling.

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Legalize it!
Posted by: onevoter on Sep 16, 2008 8:54 PM   
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legalize it, period. No need for taxes and regulation like with alcohol and tobacco.
But sadly, that is probably the only way it will become legal, so government and corporations can make money off of it.

You should be able to grow cannibis just like you would grow tomatoes, in a garden at your home, or even in your home.

Today, you can make your own home brewed beer or wine, but can't sell it without a license. That's the way it could be with ganja.

Simply put, a dozen plants would be more than enough for most smokers for a year's supply of personal use.

LEGALIZE IT!

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It's all about the money...........
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 17, 2008 8:36 AM   
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If your State is like Wisconsin,they make money locally by laying huge fines on people for jaywalking,littering,and all forms of weed possesion. In Green Bay there's nearly 600,000
citations for weed related crimes every year,at
$685 for even a seed,which BTW does'nt contain any THC, you can see what a money maker for the locals keeping weed illegal is.
This is why it will most certainly be in legal limbo for a while. They make money off the bust,by recycling the weed,rebusting people with the weed they put out their 'dealers' and swapping out the counterfiet cash for 'good money' and then when you're in court,you pay outragious fees for victim/wittness,use of the court, lab fees and icarceration fees and money recovery fees,even if you used your own money!!!!
No, drugs are illegal for one reason,THE SYSTEM MAKES A SHITLOAD OFF THE PEOPLE THEY TURN INTO DEALERS AND USERS!!! As long as using drugs to make illegal profits for your town is cool there will never be an end to the 'Drug War' But we can damn sure bring an end to the republic,which may be the only way to restore our lost Freedom and Liberty,because Bin Ladin ain't shit,except as a national distraction.Our real enemy is DC!!!

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Cannabis treatment for PTSD
Posted by: Lauren on Sep 17, 2008 2:03 PM   
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Medical Cannabis Treats PTSD, but Veterans Can’t Have It

Medical Marijuana: The Replacement for Very Dangerous Drugs

ASA's Online Discussion Forums Is Cannabis helpful in treatment of PTSD?

Where can I find a doctor who treats PTSD with cannabis? Anybody know?

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Safest non-drug in the world
Posted by: jeffreytaos on Sep 18, 2008 7:04 AM   
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the Inquisition lasted a long time. It's dark before the dawn. Let's pray ( hear my request) that enlightened minds win out of=ver tyrants and their quest to power. Let's put the light on in some of these dark places and see what truth can be learned. Michigan is a good place to start. Look at the campaign tricks there to disenfr