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Afghanistan: The Other Illegal War

By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted August 1, 2008.


The U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was every bit as illegal as the invasion of Iraq. Why, then, do so many Americans see it as justifiable?
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So far, President Bush's plan to maintain a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq has been stymied by resistance from the Iraqi government. Barack Obama's timetable for withdrawal of American troops evidently has the backing of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Bush has mentioned a "time horizon," and John McCain has waffled. Yet Obama favors leaving between 35,000 and 80,000 U.S. occupation troops there indefinitely to train Iraqi security forces and carry out "counterinsurgency operations." That would not end the occupation. We must call for bringing home -- not redeploying -- all U.S. troops and mercenaries, closing all U.S. military bases and relinquishing all efforts to control Iraqi oil.

In light of stepped-up violence in Afghanistan, and for political reasons -- following Obama's lead -- Bush will be moving troops from Iraq to Afghanistan. Although the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was as illegal as the invasion of Iraq, many Americans see it as a justifiable response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the casualties in that war have been lower than those in Iraq -- so far. Practically no one in the United States is currently questioning the legality or propriety of U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan. The cover of Time magazine calls it "The Right War."

The U.N. Charter provides that all member states must settle their international disputes by peaceful means, and no nation can use military force except in self-defense or when authorized by the Security Council. After the 9/11 attacks, the council passed two resolutions, neither of which authorized the use of military force in Afghanistan. Resolutions 1368 and 1373 condemned the Sept. 11 attacks and ordered the freezing of assets; the criminalizing of terrorist activity; the prevention of the commission of and support for terrorist attacks; and the taking of necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist activity, including the sharing of information. In addition, it urged ratification and enforcement of the international conventions against terrorism.

The invasion of Afghanistan was not legitimate self-defense under article 51 of the charter because the attacks on Sept. 11 were criminal attacks, not "armed attacks" by another country. Afghanistan did not attack the United States. In fact, 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, there was not an imminent threat of an armed attack on the United States after Sept. 11, or Bush would not have waited three weeks before initiating his October 2001 bombing campaign. The necessity for self-defense must be "instant, overwhelming, leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation." This classic principle of self-defense in international law has been affirmed by the Nuremberg Tribunal and the U.N. General Assembly.

Bush's justification for attacking Afghanistan was that it was harboring Osama bin Laden and training terrorists. Iranians could have made the same argument to attack the United States after they overthrew the vicious Shah Reza Pahlavi in 1979 and he was given safe haven in the United States. The people in Latin American countries whose dictators were trained in torture techniques at the School of the Americas could likewise have attacked the torture training facility in Fort Benning, Ga., under that specious rationale. Those who conspired to hijack airplanes and kill thousands of people on 9/11 are guilty of crimes against humanity. They must be identified and brought to justice in accordance with the law. But retaliation by invading Afghanistan is not the answer and will only lead to the deaths of more of our troops and Afghans.

The hatred that fueled 19 people to blow themselves up and take 3,000 innocents with them has its genesis in a history of the U.S. government's exploitation of people in oil-rich nations around the world. Bush accused the terrorists of targeting our freedom and democracy. But it was not the Statue of Liberty that was attacked. It was the World Trade Center, the symbol of the U.S.-led global economic system; and the Pentagon, the heart of the U.S. military, that took the hits. Those who committed these heinous crimes were attacking American foreign policy. That policy has resulted in the deaths of 2 million Iraqis -- from both Bill Clinton's punishing sanctions and George W. Bush's war. It has led to uncritical support of Israel's brutal occupation of Palestinian lands, and it has stationed more than 700 U.S. military bases in foreign countries.


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Marjorie Cohn is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, president of the National Lawyers Guild, and the U.S. representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists.

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Kudos to Prof. Cohn
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Aug 1, 2008 1:58 AM   
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She is absolutely spot on in her legal and political analysis and commentary regarding the 9/11 responses. Just imagine what this type of leadership could do to establish a foreign policy laden with dignity, purpose and likelihood of acceptance worldwide. There's a helluva lot more security in meaningful diplomacy and international accountability and we have no better example than the Cuban missile crisis under JFK. Today's neocons would have launched a nuclear holocaust in Cuba and it would have evoked an unthinkable Russian response. On 11/22/63 this nation lost its brains and relevance to a "pristine bullet" and we have been dealt the loser's hand of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush-1, Clinton, and the craven lunatic Bush-2. God save us from Obama and McCain, neither of whom offers any hope for reversal and improvement. Both should enrol for post-grad courses taught by Prof. Cohn.

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Right to self-defense
Posted by: carbon-based on Aug 1, 2008 2:49 AM   
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I think the one thing missing here is that a country has a right to defend itself. The Taliban was supporting Al Qaeda therefore it was in our defense to take them both out.

As for Iraq, big mistake on a number of levels from day 1. Even if they had WMD, Iran was breathing down their necks. We could have blockaded them once Afghanistan was secured, if ever.

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What does al Qaeda and Taliban have in common????????????
Posted by: Turiye on Aug 1, 2008 3:50 AM   
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That would be The Imperial Presidency of George W. Bush. My 19 year old is still in Turkey, a fundamentalist group that wants a governing Party in Turkey just blew up 2 bombs 1 1/2 miles from my child. WHY, BECAUSE. Blame it on the House of Saud, it can and will happen anywhere, anytime for any reason.

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s,dog7
Posted by: scottryan1 on Aug 1, 2008 4:02 AM   
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The Iraq war and Afghanistan war are not illegal,, what is illegal is that they have not attacked countries that are full evil, like Zimbabwe.
Any countries with a dictator that kills his people or makes million starve to death, should be invaded.
If it was not for Afghanistan war, I would say they only attack countries with oil / money, so you can not say they only went to war for a benefit////
Which they probably did, but they went to Afghanistan, knowing that they would never get any money / cheap oil back, but would have to help them once they won the war,// with money.



Obama says he will remove between 35,000 troops to 80,000 troops, that is a joke,, the difference between 35,000 and 80,00 is massive, he has no idea.
The surge of troops in Iraq that was the first step to wining the Iraq war, had 20,000 to 30,000 thousand troops, look at what that did, to say you would leave 35,000 to 80,000 troops, teals me he has no idea what he is talking about, the difference between the 2 is 45,000 troops, that’s massive, and would be a double surge in Iraq,, that would off done 3 times as much.
To say them kind of number apart is a joke, he has no idea what is going on or what works, even to say 35,000 to 80,000 troops, Means he has not even looked at the evidence or into it properly, but for public opinion has said he will remove up to 100,000 thousand troops, to get public opinion and win the election.

With bush saying he wants a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq, is wrong, but that’s not what he means.
He is saying America can not leave ireaq for a long time.
If America left Iraq now, like obama wants to, do you think they will stay a democracy I don’t,
Al-maillik would try be the next saddam.
America needs to stay in Iraq for at least 20-30 years, to see people come and go from government,, to see far elections.
If they left now it would be very bad and would be a wast of 4,130 Americans life’s.
You can not just leave Iraq with a man who has just got control of his troops and think it will stay them same.
don’t you find it funny that al-malillk wants all American troops out now, that is not a concept for democracy,, that teals me he should be replaced ASAP.
The problem is Muslim law, it is like law back in Britain in the medieval day.
Kill, kill hand evil. Girls have to where tops over there faces.
Its like they are using law from some pin dick from 1,000 years ago, that hate woman.
It’s like that lady that tolled the kids in hear Muslim class in a Muslim country to name a bear toy, and they picked some think like Mohamed, they wanted to hand her over that.
that says it all about there laws, in Dubai, you can not holed hand or kiss in public, what is up with that, did the people that made the laws 1,000 years ago, have a pin dick or what, hated woman big time, wear shit over you face,, what the.
If Iraq is to work, they will have to start to change half of there laws.

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FMA in Massachusetts
Posted by: FMABBI on Aug 1, 2008 4:11 AM   
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This article should be read out loud by every TV and radio newscaster and quoted word for word in every newspaper in America. It's common sense and truthful. But for some reason we in America are only fed propaganda and "horse race" bullsh-t that they call "news". Shame on us - because we buy it.

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» How about printing it Posted by: robbie.seal
ORGANIZED CRIME AT ITS BEST. AIPAC, CONGRESS ETC.
Posted by: ElRoy60 on Aug 1, 2008 4:30 AM   
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ANY DOUBT AS TO WHO IS THE CONNECTION
HERE IN THE STATES:
KEEP UP THE INVESTIGATIONS, BUT WHO WILL BE LEFT TO PROSECUTE THE CRIMES COMMITED.

Israel's Olmert to resign over corruption investigation 30 Jul 2008 Embattled Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced Wednesday that he'll resign as prime minister in September, setting the stage for a successor to take over as early as the following month. Olmert made it clear that he was reluctantly stepping aside because a deepening political corruption investigation was making it increasingly difficult for him to serve effectively. The timing of his resignation is keyed to a meeting of his ruling Kadima party, which will choose a new leader in mid- or late September.

Pentagon study says Bush's "war on terror" off target --The study calls for "fundamental rethinking of U.S. strategy" to focus on minimizing overt military action and increasing intelligence collection and partnerships with law enforcement agencies around the world. 31 Jul 2008 A Pentagon-commissioned study published Wednesday said the Bush administration's 7-year-old war-on-terror is off target.


Do you remember how the politicians and media pundits reassured us that 911
was not going to, nor would they allow it to affect our lives, and standard of
living.

Yet now FEAR has been used to strip us of our constitutional rights, and the
moral values & ethics we had always stood for in the past.

Who should be held accountable? Go to imeachbush.org.

Support Obama, changing how things are done or not done in Washington.

Take our country back. Screen all on both sides of the isle.

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TOTAL BULLSHIT
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 1, 2008 5:09 AM   
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Cohen writes, "The invasion of Afghanistan was not legitimate self-defense under article 51 of the charter because the attacks on Sept. 11 were criminal attacks, not 'armed attacks' by another country.

Using her reasoning, if Al Qaida established training camps below our southern border that were protected by the Mexican government and the terrorists began attacking our railroad system, we could not take any defensive action -- like invading Mexico and eliminating the camps.

After two combat support tours in Southeast Asia (1965 - 1966), I became a Vietnam War protestor. Now I'm against the Iraq War as well, but Cohen is full of crap. We had every right to invade Afghanistan. In fact, Bush (whom I despise) warned the Taliban government to quit protecting Bin Laden's boys or face the consequences but it refused.

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Should have never Put boots down in M.E.
Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 1, 2008 5:40 AM   
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As soon as I heard We invaded Afghanistan I told my husband a major cluster Fuck was under way.We should have just bombed the camps- what I considered the 'going away to college' for terrorists. I also felt then, and now, the opportunity to bring US to them would afford the chance to surround and attack more easily- in concert withthose from other countries who are sympathetic to the Con being played by their 'leaders'
Let be realistic those who have oppressed and committed real rimes against the Middle Easterners are their OWN upper Caste- The Oil Royals.Granted the Western Oil Corps have worked hand & Hand with them- but are not the Root of their Ills.
As far as I am concerned citizens of th US and the Middle east are being used in the 'Through Chaos comes Order' stratedgy. Binny is just as much as a Con man as Bush.A propped up Front man for both the Oil royals and their confederates in the Oil Industry.Afghanistan was just the chance to get their plan under way- to seize Iraq's oil fields, then work towards seizing Irans.It is not escaped many Americans realization that Saudi Arabia is where the majority of 'terrorist' were born & Raised, but yet they have not been 'invaded' nor even held accountable for the ideology which encouraged their 'antionals' to seek higher training at the Afghani vocational College Camp(us).
If not a direct intentional tactic by the Oils- 9/11 was a result of this alliance of Royals & Corps and the deception of Bin Laden as to want and Who He really is helping. Both Binny & Bush have Conned average citizens into this 'War on Terror', and I have no Doubt they , their families and their Associates are the only ones benefiting from this Charade, While average people are being sent to slaughter under the delusion they are fighting for an 'Honorablre Cause'.
This is a psuedo conflict which has been engineered and managed by those who benefit by not only increased profits- but also by increasing their strangle hold (Power) over humanity because they control a necessary resource- energy, which effects food prices and economic stablity and influence Globally.
I do NOT fear the Fable of the 'Man in th eCave' I fear those he and Bush have proven they work for.

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» Already tried Posted by: robbie.seal
Small Detail?
Posted by: djnoll on Aug 1, 2008 6:07 AM   
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We are not the only nation in Afghanistan. It was a joint NATO operation that included troops from every nation that lost civilians in the 9/11 attacks and our allies, as well as theirs. A joint UN resolution was passed authorizing the attack on Afghanistan when it refused to surrender Bin Laden and cohorts. We are currently not the only troops in Afghanistan and until Bin Laden and company are brought to justice, I seriously doubt if the other nations who have been the lead troops there for a while now since we went into Iraq would be very sympathetic to our abandoning them there. In fact, the commander of all the troops there were from NATO countries, and we only took leadership command about a year ago, which is why BushCo could abandoned that command offensive for Iraq.

While the article may present an interesting premise for legal argument, it did not adequately address the realities of what is on the ground or who is actually there. Perhaps a more realistic article would be appropriate in the future.

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Waiting on the U.N.? The U.-who-then??
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 1, 2008 6:15 AM   
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Why wait on approval for a defensive strike from an irrelevant, self-serving bureaucracy?

I do agree that occupations are a waste of blood and treasure--you destroy your enemies and the government supporting them, and then leave. If they pop back up, you do it again. It has been an utter fallacy to waste our precious people and resources to try and oversee the "democratization of the region", in a place where people prefer to vote for Mohammad Dictatorships.

The argument for invading Iraq was much, much poorer, even with what we now know was faulty intelligence, and basically amounted to "Hussein is a bad guy, and may still have weapons like B. anthracis*, and the chemical weapons he used on men, women, and children inside his own borders." That, of course, leaves out the fissile material we were lied to about.

The U.N. and international forces can make a difference, but only when they choose to. When they fails--and I'd point to Darfur and perhaps East Timor--as primary examples of "waiting on defense by committee", and of course, to a lesser degree Afghanistan, then they choose to be irrelevant. And, in the case of Afghanistan, it's only a lesser degree because the U.S. possesses the wherewithal to fight back, while elsewhere in the world, genocide is conducted while the U.N. watches observantly.

No thank you. When it comes to defense, defense rules, and your pet committee's rules take a back seat.

*which, by the way, President Clinton had ordered every member of the armed forces vaccinated against due to such intel

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Afghanistan Invasion Was Illegal
Posted by: curiousdwk on Aug 1, 2008 6:22 AM   
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The author is right to say that our invasion of Afghanistan was illegal. We did not pursue other, more reasonable means before bombing the hell out of them. Our enemy was not the Afghani government. They may not have been our friend, but they weren't our enemy. But our invasion included indiscriminate bombings of cities causing terror (yes, we were the terrorists here) in tens of thousands of villagers who had to leave their homes and leave their cities. What crimes did they commit?

Whatever should have been done should have been done with the collaboration of other countries who also felt threatened - not just our puppet friends. And yes, the author is right that Afghanistan should be with the United Nations rather than NATO. The mission of NATO is defense while the mission of the UN is peace. The US can control the operations of NATO and increase the war activities but could not do that with the UN. But the US' arrogance and beligerance has always trumped working cooperatively with the UN. (And I'm not sure that Obama views Afghanistan any more reasonably than Bush did and does.)

We are occupiers. We should not be occupiers. If the objective of our invasion was to occupy, then it was illegal. If the objective was not to occupy, then we have succeeded in our mission and we should not be occupying. Either our invasion or our occupying was and is illegal. Probably both.

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Alternet is still perpetuating the myth . . .
Posted by: dustdevil on Aug 1, 2008 6:26 AM   
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Where is the proof that 19 Arabs attacked us on 911?

The Bush Administration has not supplied any.

Even Hamilton and Keane, co-chairmen of the 911 Commission, have said the government was blatant in withholding information.

Bush and Cheney would not testify before the Commission under oath even though they had specified that the Commission should not investigate who was to blame for 911.

The article should have used the Fox News technique of "Some people believe" that 19 Arabs attacked us on 911. At least that would have some degree of accuracy.

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An apology.
Posted by: LeaveMeAlone on Aug 1, 2008 6:23 AM   
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So we issue an arrest warrant the Taliban wipe their asses with and then apologize to Bin Laden for giving him the motive to kill us. What's next? A heartfelt apology for placing our skyscrappers and our three thousand people in the way of their hijacked jets?

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» Try Again Posted by: robbie.seal
ridiculous
Posted by: jstepp590 on Aug 1, 2008 7:29 AM   
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This is ridiculous. Iraq we can agree with, Afghanistan we'll just have to agree to disagree. Afghanistan harbored an international mass murderer and refused to turn him over for trial. They chose their side and get what they deserved.

Look guys, when someone attacks you then all bets are off. You'll be sitting there arguing the morality of a war when the enemy walks up and puts a bullet in your head. This is the reason why intellectuals do not rule the world. I'm sorry you cannot see that but it's the truth.

Our national standing and reputation are what is on the line in Afghanistan. Support our country and troops by letting them stabilize Afghanistan while not allowing this dimwit administration start new problems for us. Finish what we started and then look and see what troops we can bring home without allowing the problems those troops are containing from spreading out of control until we're having to fight again because we ran out on our allies and didn't finish what we started.

This idealism, which I do agree with, is a starting place not an end. This goal needs to be implemented but that implementation must be dictated by the reality on the ground or you will allow ideology (wishful thinking) to make a fool of you and kill your fellow countrymen the same as it did for Bush.

Please do not make their mistake and make knee jerk decisions that leave us in deeper than before.

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