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Immigration: It's Been Over 20 Years Since Congress Considered Amnesty, So Why All the Ruckus?

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted July 7, 2008.


Progressive immigration reformers need to do a better job framing their proposals.

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It's been two decades since Congress last considered a proposal to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants in the United States. Yet, in 2005 and 2007, proposals for comprehensive immigration reform (CIR) died rapid deaths amid a flurry of outrage from citizens who believed that an amnesty was being considered on Capitol Hill. Right-wing radio hosts and bloggers were able to use the idea of amnesty -- or "shamnesty," as the sparkling wits of the conservative movement like to call it -- to gin up a firestorm of loud and angry protest against the bills.

One of the great ironies of the immigration debates of recent years is that a broad body of polling data shows that most -- or at least many -- of those inundating their representatives with angry letters, calls and emails would have approved of the immigration bills if they had known what they actually contained. In large part, that disconnect represents a communication failure by progressive immigration reformers. In some ways, it was a self-inflicted wound: the reform movement's choice of language -- the way the coalition for CIR "framed" their policies -- played a major role in making what should have been a compromise with broad public support into a poison pill.

Looking at a range of opinion data, political scientist Ruy Teixeira observed that when pollsters ask, "with no further specifications, whether we should make it easier for illegal immigrants to become legal workers, you get a negative response. ... And you get an even more negative response on whether we should make it easier for illegal immigrants to become citizens." But, added Teixeira, "that initial reaction turns around if it sounds like helping illegal immigrants to get legal worker status or to become citizens isn't a free lunch for those who broke the law." Teixeira found that in poll after poll, around 70 percent of Americans opposed offering amnesty, with many strongly opposing it.

But there was no amnesty offered in the comprehensive reform bills of 2005 and 2007. Amnesty was a central tenet of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, signed into law by Ronald Reagan; it simply legalized undocumented immigrants who underwent a health check and could prove they'd been residing in the country since before Jan. 1, 1982. If they were healthy and fulfilled that simple requirement (and paid a modest administrative fee), bingo, they were "legal."

Immigration reformers of recent years read the polls and, following public sentiment, never included an amnesty in their reform bills. Instead, they came up with an onerous "path to citizenship," which was anything but an amnesty. In a 2007 article, Time Magazine accurately described what the "path to citizenship" entailed in the 2007 bill:

Amnesty, as defined by its opponents, has come to mean getting forgiveness for free. But under the Senate's current compromise, the path for illegals is not anything close to easy. Under the compromise, the 12 million would face a 13-year process including $5,000 in fines per person, benchmarks for learning English and an onerous "touchback" provision that calls for the head of each household to leave job and family behind and return to his or her home country for an indeterminate amount of time to queue up for the final green card. Nothing free about that.

They also would have had to have clean criminal records and prove that they had paid all their taxes -- and there were other hoops to jump through.

As Teixeira noted, when the actual proposal was explained to people, it was supported by very large majorities. A CNN poll taken in May 2007, just before a massive groundswell of outrage killed the bill, found that 80 percent of those polled -- 4 out of 5 -- favored "creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the United States for a number of years to stay in this country and apply for U.S. citizenship if they had a job and paid back taxes." A New York Times/CBS poll conducted the same month found that two-thirds of respondents said, "Illegal immigrants who have a good employment history and no criminal record should gain legal status as the bill proposes: by paying at least $5,000 in fines and fees and receiving a renewable four-year visa." A USA Today/Gallup poll from mid-April 2007 also found that 8 in 10 favored granting immigrants a path to citizenship if they "meet certain requirements over a period of time."

Unfortunately for the country, those who favor immigration enforcement but oppose deeper systemic reforms can read the polls, too. So they lied -- repeating, again and again, that the bill contained an amnesty provision. It was, ultimately, a battle to see who could better "frame" the policy in the public's eye, and the immigration reformers got beat, badly. How badly? So badly that even many well-informed progressives were convinced that a provision for amnesty had been in the bills that were debated in '05 and '07.


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Since when have they framed anything correctly?
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 7, 2008 1:22 AM   
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In the end, half the party is ready to roll over to the GOP like a bunch of DUMB DOGS issue after issue. The progressives and liberals would be better off giving bolder third parties that share their ideology a real chance whether we're talking Ralph Nader, Cindy Sheehan, the Green Party, etc ... Along with it, they can sure as hell take some time off the god damn motherfucking media and get themselves in order just like the "conservatives" used to do from the mid 1960s up to the late 1970s and looking strong by 1980 and after although Nixon's fallout temporarily interrupted their movement. I have yet to see any such counter movement anywhere close. Backbone please !

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No amnesty
Posted by: michael1972 on Jul 7, 2008 2:48 AM   
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It is amazing that in a time when jobs are being lost in a declining economy that we are discussing amnesty (this is insane). Amnesty would not be a pathway for 12 million illegal immigrants but more like 30 million or more of them that are here illegally (the 12 million number is a myth).

What the writer of this article along with those who support the amnesty position is not addressing is how on earth will we be able to take care of all these folks. According to a survey done in Mexico 85% of that countries population would like to come to the US. How do the pro amnesty crowd suggest we stop this flow of people who want to come here or do they.

Currently illegal immigrants who have built some type of structure for a pay scale are now being undercuted by new arriving illegal immigrants who will do their jobs for a even cheaper price thus driving down the value of labor even further.

Another down fall to amnesty that we are witnessing is in the school system, health care, welfare, overcrowded jails, highways and racism. Immigrants for the most part are good hard working people but they are a drain on the economy and take out more than they put in. The vast majority of Illegal immigrants work under the table and for the few who do pay taxes do so on someone else's social security number (ID thief).

In various neighborhoods where illegal immigrants populate and grow they seem to developed a sense that its their territory and fill the need to drive out other people who were there before them (primarily blacks). In some cases not all these folks will take up arms and shoot and kill blacks regardless to age or gender.

All of the following doesn't mean that illegals represents most of the problems plaguing this country but on the same note why add more of another's countries burden (Mexico/South America) to a system thats already on a fast track to being bankrupt. We cant afford amnesty.

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» Grinch . . . Posted by: countingdaisies
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» RE: +$80,000 per illegal worker Posted by: michael1972
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» Fake Documents?? Posted by: Baal_Labs
» RE: No amnesty (another point) Posted by: Old Skeptic
It WAS amnesty
Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Jul 7, 2008 3:04 AM   
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Amnesty, by definition, means not punishing a crime, the crime being coming here without a visa or overstaying. a very small fine($5000) is nothing. you make them pay a half mil for it, i'll allow it. American citizenship is worth AT LEAST that much. we don't need more poor people. we have our own.

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» We don't need poor people Posted by: rickiey
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» Okay, Pony Up. Posted by: grumble-bum
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» RE:asonable, Very Reasonable. Posted by: grumble-bum
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First things First...now there is a good "frame."
Posted by: davidhhahn on Jul 7, 2008 3:28 AM   
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You could gain a lot of credibility if you would agree to build a fence; I mean a good one, maybe a double fence to stop illegal immigration from the South. Agree to that, help promote it, and help get it done; and you on the "progressive" side would gain a lot of credibility with those of us who think you are NOT serious about immigration control. We will never even get to the issue of "amnesty," or "path to citizenship," or any other description until we control further illegal immigration. Otherwise, it is we, the American people, who feel framed.

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» Fences fine for people, bad for nature Posted by: countingdaisies
I still cannot comprehend the hatred in this country towards other nationalities regardless..
Posted by: Turiye on Jul 7, 2008 3:28 AM   
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....of the reason, undocumented workers or those on student visas, those that have had citizenship for 25 years.
The people that are responsible for the population growth are teens that are white, this thanks to the Murderer's Abstinence Only Program, another great idea from that twit. You only need to go to the Dept of Health or the CDC sites to get accurate GOVERNMENT statistics, for the types that think everything is made up to make it easier for all the evil "Illegal Immigrants" over the border, through the woods and on welfare. Where do they get this odd idea that they are able to do this? Who feeds them this crap?
If whatever their names are that shoot everyone that tries to cross, the REAL department of immigration that polices the borders don't kill them or exclaim Extraordinary Rendition and send them to a 'Detainee Center' until they are finished torturing them, why worry, kids? No one in their right mind would want to be in this country now anyway. No one that is a citizen wants to be here.
Tell these fearmongering, urban myth portrayers to fear not we'll be leaving this pop stand en masse and if anyone else wants to come in our places, oh well, welcome to the US of AnythingCanHappenToYou.

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» Hey, that's funny! Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: Hey, that's funny! Posted by: michael1972
Back door politics in the middle of the night
Posted by: pacer on Jul 7, 2008 5:15 AM   
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I read USA and that poll was way off. The recent Iraqi war supplement spending bill had originally contained amnesty for over 3 million low wage illegal’s and their families which republican senator Craig and democrat Ms. Frank-en-stein had snuck into it in the middle of the night.

Illegal immigrants are the biggest contributors to unemployment in the United States, and they are forcing many U.S. citizens into early retirement. Two illegal immigrants are working for the price of one American and with no employee benefits. They help the employer in the present and future.
My school taxes have doubled because of the illegal immigrants’ many, many children in our public schools.

While our troops are bravely fighting for freedom in the Middle East, at home it appears freedom is free for illegal immigrants as they invade our nation.

Those advocating for amnesty are saying that citizenship for illegal immigrants will cost them each a $5,000 fee. In reality, what these politicians are saying is that the lives of the brave heroes we lost in this war on terror are each only worth $5,000.

In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties.
How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage-earning illegal immigrants, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when it cannot help just a few hundred thousand veterans, many of whom just need proper medical care or are truly homeless or unemployed?

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objective info on immigration population
Posted by: skingk on Jul 7, 2008 5:52 AM   
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Before Joshua Holland or anyone else writes about
immigration they should see: "Immigration Gumballs" on Youtube.

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ILLEGAL ALIENS
Posted by: HBoyer on Jul 7, 2008 7:16 AM   
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You stated the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 was successful, that was hog wash.

That was the most corrupt Immigration Act in America, it was used to legalize criminals, drug dealers, sick and mentally ill people.

It was a bad joke on the American people.

The Immigration lawyers made millions from Illegal Aliens in helping them get citizenship even if the did not qualify.

Americans are not racists, they are fed up with Corporate greed, H-1B visas and organizations like LARAZA that are Racists and want a Mexican Majority in America.

PUT THE FENCE UP-PROSECUTE ILLEGAL ALIENS EMPLOYERS AND THIS ILLEGAL ALIEN PROBLEM WILL STOP

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Proof of the pudding
Posted by: MdeG on Jul 7, 2008 7:36 AM   
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Most of the commentators here have proven Joshua Holland's point very nicely. The right wing duped a lot of people about the nature of CIR. A lot of folks swallowed the lies hook, line, and sinker, and are now repeating them.

Holland's right. The CIR proposals would have created an obstacle course to citizenship, not a garden path. They would also have promoted guestworker programs, which are way too close to formal slavery for my taste; I objected to them on this basis.

We need some further thinking on this subject.

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» RE: Proof of the pudding Posted by: note2self
» RE: Proof of the pudding Posted by: Lauren
RE: Back door politics in the middle of the night
Posted by: note2self on Jul 7, 2008 9:01 AM   
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I read USA and that poll was way off. The recent Iraqi war supplement spending bill had originally contained amnesty for over 3 million low wage illegal’s and their families which republican senator Craig and democrat Ms. Frank-en-stein had snuck into it in the middle of the night.

Wasn't this a guest worker program to help farmers? I don't recall it granting citizenship to anyone? Why the lies?

Illegal immigrants are the biggest contributors to unemployment in the United States, and they are forcing many U.S. citizens into early retirement. Two illegal immigrants are working for the price of one American and with no employee benefits. They help the employer in the present and future.
My school taxes have doubled because of the illegal immigrants’ many, many children in our public schools.


Do you have any data to back this up? Or are you just pulling the stats out of thin air? Nice anecdote by the way (school taxes). You forgot to include the one about how illegals are the primary reason for global warming.

While our troops are bravely fighting for freedom in the Middle East, at home it appears freedom is free for illegal immigrants as they invade our nation.

You lost me on this one? Freedom for "illegals"? I don't get it.

Those advocating for amnesty are saying that citizenship for illegal immigrants will cost them each a $5,000 fee. In reality, what these politicians are saying is that the lives of the brave heroes we lost in this war on terror are each only worth $5,000.

This is just ridiculous! What does the Iraq war have to do with immigration reform? How do you people come up with this stuff? Are you intoxicated when you think of these things?

In Pennsylvania we have veterans living underneath bridges and employed illegal immigrants living in the rental properties.
How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage-earning illegal immigrants, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when it cannot help just a few hundred thousand veterans, many of whom just need proper medical care or are truly homeless or unemployed?


First of all, why are these veterans homeless? Shouldn't the VA step up to help these people? Then 20 million? Even FAIR estimates the number at 13 million. Ever considered working for the government, since you enjoy inflating numbers! And lastly, who said that those granted amnesty would be given welfare? How do you know these people even need the assistance if they are employed?

It must be nice being retired and having "illegals" pay your social security. How does it feel to benefit from their labor?

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» Further Expansion + A Clever Idea Posted by: grumble-bum
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"amnesty"
Posted by: JoshuaR on Jul 7, 2008 10:05 AM   
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Due to the current situation, anything granting citizenship to our current population of illegal immigrants would create a stampede of illegal immigrants from around the world to come to our country, thus strangling our resources in a time of economic collapse and killing any hope of creating a social safety net, universal healthcare, etc.

I am beginning to understand that the far Left is as delusional as the Evangelical Right on multiculturalism and immigration.

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» RE: "amnesty" Posted by: Lauren
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» Not quite the history I learned Posted by: photon's feather
Joshua Holland is still wrong
Posted by: LonewackoDotCom2 on Jul 7, 2008 10:22 AM   
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Redefining amnesty is a very old trick, engaged in by those on the far-left but also by Bush, McCain (see this), proxies for business groups, and now Joshua Holland.

The bottom line is that it's amnesty because that's how it will be perceived by millions and millions of potential illegal aliens.

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» the far-left Good Samaritan Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: Joshua Holland is still wrong Posted by: countingdaisies
Physical labor & leisure
Posted by: war_on_tara on Jul 7, 2008 10:52 AM   
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In the past I might have made my usual rejoinders to this, but after reading the NY Times front pager yesterday on business & immigration, I'm ready to give up. Young white & black Americans are lazy now and won't work in the jobs that I and many people reading this had when we were young. Even my current job (I'm in my 50s) is too physical for them and few stay.

Must be a cultural thing, it's no longer cool to work physically... hey I've even read several stories locally about how hard it is now to hire lifeguards - lifeguards! - which of course used to be the ultimate ultra-cool job. They have to close beaches sometimes because not enough kids want to be lifeguards. Now I guess the kids are all playing video games - when I go to the beach there aren't as many young people as there used to be, even when I go hiking I never see anyone under 30 or so.

Not necessarily being a hypocrite here - I work weekends & have a chronic health problem, and Monday is my regularly scheduled day to sleep & vegetate... but yes, maybe computers are the cause? Some AlterNet zanies always blame TV but I read recently (on the computer, natch) that the average age of TV viewers overall is now 50! - so TV is not the problem.

It would probably take a depression to turn this around. (Well if McCain & Romney get in I suppose we will get there, ha ha ha?)

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» RE: I'm Not Buying It Posted by: desidid
I helped some friends get in on the 1986 amnesty...
Posted by: L.A.Lynn on Jul 7, 2008 11:23 AM   
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...but times have changed.The numbers are a bit higher, um by at least 10 million.

If the right wing radio and blog-o-sphere are spouting lies because of their racist views, does that somehow translate into progressive blog commentators doing heavy investigative reports and reporting the truth, as opposed to the emotionality of their own skewed facts, and views?

Amnesty was not mentioned in the immigration reform of 2007. There was indeed a pretty tough policy toward gaining citizenship. So tough that it is doubted that most immigrants would register for the program, so the country would still face the problem, and a brand new government bureaucracy to fund for the million or so who did apply. As to actual criminals (such as gang members), how many of those would register? Not many to none I would suspect.

The 1986 amnesty bill is not the only helping hand that has been given to immigrants without documentation. There has been other legislation enacted since 1986 that extended that bill in various ways.

The 1986 Amnesty bill also promised to strengthen the enforcement of immigration laws (including sanctions for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens); increase border controls; and create a program to verify the immigration status of aliens applying for certain welfare benefits.

How has that been working for the last 22 years?

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This article is right on
Posted by: wanealy on Jul 7, 2008 12:04 PM   
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I'm an immigrants' rights activist who has been working on the issue for a while. When I actually read the provisions of the bill, I was horrified, as it barred a "path" to citizenship to many of the people I worked with who simply would never have had the funds to legalize.

The fact that that awful bill was described as "amnesty" proves that the forces of irrationality and hatred took over the debate. I was against this bill as a pro-immigrant advocate.

Americans will have to make some tough choices soon, but the idea that we can deport all undocumented workers and work only on the enforcement side of the issue is a fascist fairy tale. The people who come here are desperate, many of them choosing to risk dying (during the crossing into this country) rather than remain home and watch their children starve to death.

I've worked with many of these individuals. Ask yourself: if you couldn't feed your family, what would you do? While we do indeed need to filter out the dangerous criminals, we also must find a way to make our global economic system work so that all may be able to work for decent wages.

And before you say that immigrants should deal with their own problems at home: that ignores the fact that globalization is here whether we like it or not: our economies are interlinked . The influx of immigrants from the south is a direct result of NAFTA devastating the Mexican economy (as well as the blue collar economy here). We are all in the same struggle. Until poor American workers realize that they should join in solidarity with other workers to demand fair wages from our corporate owners, there will be no justice.

Right now, it's just a game of divide and conquer being played by the rich owners against the poor (both American workers and immigrant workers). We will either swim together or sink together. Peace.

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» RE: You ASS-ume Way Too Much Posted by: desidid
Like heck it wasn't amnesty!
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Jul 7, 2008 2:28 PM   
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I suppose it depends on how one defines "amnesty", but IMO, the "comprehensive" immigration bill did provide what was essentially amnesty to illegal aliens. It allowed lawbreakers to stay here, and even seek US citizenship, which for many of us qualifies as amnesty, even if a fine is involved. Why should we even think of offering people whose every moment in our country involves breaking the law a "path" to citizenship? Even if we allow a "work permit", there is no reason to include US citizenship in the deal!

We should not reward illegal aliens with US citizenship, no matter how long they have been here. If they want to be considered for citizenship, let them go home and start the legal process for legal immigration; otherwise, we could consider a work permit status, with no connection to citizenship, for them or their multitudes of kids. We should eliminate the "anchor baby" provisions and make the nationality of the kids that of their parents. People who come here illegally and have children shouldn't be able to steal US citizenship for their kids.

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So THEY lied?
Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 7, 2008 4:53 PM   
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So they lied -- repeating, again and again

Considering how for many many months you and the Alternet insisted on framing the issue as one of progressives against racists and xenophobes, I find it startling you have the audacity to claim it was others doing the lying.

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Listen up Boys and Girls!
Posted by: mike_burns on Jul 8, 2008 4:19 AM   
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We need a simple legislation that can not be twisted, and here it is.
Keep everything the same, except for one little thing. An illegal alien can not be deported for union activity.
It's not racism. It is blue collar fear. They can twist the data if they want to, but they are replacing our blue collar workers. Not everybody was meant for college. Illegal aliens would benefit all, instead of just the wealthy. It would be a fantastic boost to the economy.

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Racism? Are you sure?
Posted by: photon's feather on Jul 8, 2008 6:16 AM   
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There are a lot of Mexicans (and other Latin Americans in my neighborhood). Mexican nationals at various points en route to citizenship, plus some not likely to become citizens, and some that are US citizens. Most of those I know resent what they see as unfair treatment of those that refused to follow the law the way they did. They feel that they are being treated as fools for having followed all the rules.

Will these illegals be jumping ahead in the line? Will giving them amnesty or a pathway mean longer waits for those still waiting in Mexico for their green cards?

Certainly their families have jumped ahead, if they can stay here while the head wage earner returns. "Unfair!" cry my neighbors. Not one member of any of their families was allowed to enter while the head of the family stayed behind to wait for his green card.

Are you going to claim that my Mexican neighbors harbor racist feelings against Mexicans?!

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