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Dennis Kucinich's Fight to Bring Credibility to the Democratic Party

By Chris Hedges, Philadelphia Inquirer. Posted January 19, 2008.


The resilient 2008 candidate attacks the "inside game between competing corporate interests" in U.S. politics.

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This interview was recently conducted by Chris Hedges at Rep. Dennis Kucinich's Congressional office in Washington.

Chris Hedges: Why has the Democratic Party not done what it should do?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Lack of commitment to Democratic principles. No understanding of the period of history we're in. Failure to appreciate the necessity of the coequality of Congress. Unwillingness to assert Congressional authority in key areas which makes the people's House paramount to protecting democracy. The institutionalized influence of corporate America through the Democratic leadership council. Those are just a few.

Hedges: Have we evolved into a corporate state?

Kucinich: I Look at it as the political equivalent of genetic engineering. That we've taken the gene of corporate America and shot it into both political parties. So they both now are growing with that essence within. So what does that mean? It means oil runs our politics. Corrupt Wall Street interests run our politics. Insurance companies run our politics. Arms manufacturers run our politics. And the public interest is being strangled. Fulfilling the practical aspirations of people should be our mission. How do we measure up to providing people with jobs? It was a Democratic president that made it possible for NAFTA to be passed, causing millions of good-paying manufacturing jobs that help support the middle class. . . .

NAFTA, GAT, the WTO, China Trade, and every other trade agreement that's passed in Congress has been passed with the help of either the leadership of or with the help of the Democratic Party, knowing that each and every one of those agreements was devoid of protections for workers, knowing that if you don't have workers' rights put into a trade agreement then workers here in the United States are going to see their own bargaining position undermined because corporations can move jobs out of the country to places where workers don't have any rights. They don't have the right to organize, the right to collective bargaining, the right to strike. So what I see is that the Democratic Party abandoned working people, and paradoxically they're the ones who hoist the flag of workers every two and four years only to engender excitement, and then to turn around and abandon their constituency. This is now on the level of a practiced ritual. At least a biannual ceremony, or every two years. So you can see how pernicious this becomes when the minimum wage increase was tied to funding the war. That, to me, says it all. Because it is inevitably the sons and daughters of working Americans that are the ones who are led to slaughter. Aspirations for health care.

So what I've done in my campaign is to advocate a full-employment economy. How do you do that? A new WPA-type program. We'll rebuild America's bridges, water systems, sewer systems, our libraries, our universities, our mass transit systems. And we do that with a program that I introduced legislation in repeated Congresses with the cosponsorship of a Republican from Ohio by the name of Steven LaTourette and the bill, HR 3400, provides for rebuilding America's infrastructure. And I would put millions of people back to work in good-paying jobs. I would put millions more back to work in new energy policies where we would design, engineer, manufacture, install and maintain wind and solar microtechnologies which would be retrofitted into tens of millions of American homes and businesses, driving down our carbon footprint and dramatically reducing our cost of energy. This would be a major development in America to take us away from a condition where America is leading the way towards the destruction of our global climate. I call this part of it the WG: a Works Green Administration, where we turn government into an engine of sustainability, where the whole government becomes about moving towards green. The transportation plan, mass transit, housing and development - it's about green housing, solar, natural lighting, using recycled material, the energy department stops incentivizing coal and oil and nuclear, and moves toward incentivizing wind and solar, bringing forward a whole generation of entrepreneurs just waiting to get into green energy solutions.

NAFTA becomes about the development of these new technologies at the alpha stage and then licensing them to the beta stage to encourage that entrepreneurial spirit. I mean we could create millions of jobs to prime the pump of the economy - that's the way I think about this. Prime the pump of the economy, get people back to work rebuilding America and creating a transition economy and making us more green in all of our policies. Agriculture, for example: Bring back the concept of parity, work for sustainable practices in agriculture and help protect small farmers, get their products to market, get their price, get a fair price, protect them with local markets, help organic farmers. I could go through every department, and that's what Works Green is about.


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Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer prize-winning reporter, was the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times. He spent seven years in the Middle East and reported frequently from Iran. His latest book is American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America. He is currently preparing a book titled "I Don't Believe in Atheists."

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Dennis is the Leader the People Have Been Looking For.
Posted by: bladerunner on Jan 19, 2008 12:53 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I will be voting for you, even if I have to write you in. You have more balls then the rest of Congress put together. Impeach!

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» Yes for Kucinich Posted by: Ripcord
Kucinich can't be bought like the others
Posted by: Richard House on Jan 19, 2008 4:07 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
this interview shows some reasons why he's being shut out of the debates. I'll be writing him in when it comes to the vote in 2008.

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» write-in Kucinich Posted by: Ripcord
Credibility, my foot...
Posted by: xi_people on Jan 19, 2008 4:23 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It amazes me that people are dumb enough (or uninformed enough) to continue to fall for this game. Kucinich is nothing more than a safety valve for frustrated would-be dimocrat voters. His function is provide "hope" that the party will one day "get its act together."

Kucinich will never win, and he will reliably turn his votes over to whatever corporate-owned dimocrat he's told to support. He will never be a major factor in any general election, mainly because he doesn't really want to be.

"Fool's gold" is the phrase that comes to mind when I see anything written about Kucinich. Face it America, you no longer have a functional government, and sell-outs like Dennis are only creating the illusion that things will one day get better.

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» RE: Credibility, my foot... Posted by: notabilia
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Who is he kidding?
Posted by: davescott on Jan 19, 2008 5:14 AM   
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You cannot bring credibility or anything else to a party by repeatedly running quixotic campaigns in which you dont get three percent of the vote.

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» RE: Who is he kidding? Posted by: peacefullaim
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» Downloadable Flier... Posted by: grumble-bum
» RE: You're kidding yourself Posted by: Ripcord
Woah, This Guy Sounds Great! He Should Run for President! ;-)
Posted by: grumble-bum on Jan 19, 2008 5:16 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This interview, as conducted by the often stellar Hedges, indicates once again what an inspiring man Dennis Kucinich can be.

& what a radical, fundamentally positive view he brings to the cynical world of politics, whether as our hypothetical President, or just an incredibly principled & near-tireless Congressperson who actually makes his votes, & tries to make them count towards the good.

A true inspiration in this soul-killing climate. I too plan to write him in this year, if need be. If you agree with his message in your heart (you know, where it matters), you should too. Start organizing behind him now, & we could actually make an impact.

Since when did capitulation become the definition of leadership, anyway?!? We should be carrying this guy into the White House on our shoulders, dammit.

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Why is he a Democrat?
Posted by: mylesh on Jan 19, 2008 5:29 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If he truly had courage, he'd bolt the party and take others with him. Green, Independent, doesn't matter. Show the D leadership that they're going to lose the majority for being so Republican.

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» RE: Why is he a Democrat? Posted by: MyLeftFoot
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This sentence caught my eye
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jan 19, 2008 5:58 AM   
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in the beginning of the article;
It was a Democratic president that made it possible for NAFTA to be passed, causing millions of good-paying manufacturing jobs that help support the middle class. . . .

I would guess that if the sentence was completed it would be something like, good paying manufacturing jobs that help support the middle class disappear to other countries contributing to the gradual erosion of Americas middle class soon to be lower class.

is this some editing by Alternet?

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» RE: This sentence caught my eye Posted by: fredo1012
» What's the thinking here? Posted by: Joshua Holland
The right ideas, with the wrong audience
Posted by: phshafe on Jan 19, 2008 6:07 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What Kucinich addresses is nothing short of selecting the path of vision, collaboration and sustainability, over that of the opposites, in this current era of Armageddon. Too bad his audience is not on his page. As Morris Berman points out in his exceptionally underrated "Dark Ages America", we're not the people we were in the Hitler era. We are tens of millions of Dick Cheneys, who hold inalienable our right to affluenza, however eggregious the suffering this inflicts on the rest of humanity. Our leading political candidates reflect ourselves, petty, sniveling, shortsighted, OK with foreign children getting slaughtered so that we can have gas for our SUV's. Pity us.

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» Sad Posted by: WhatNow?
Best candidate, best message...but no way to communicate with 'main stream' Americans.
Posted by: fsuthai on Jan 19, 2008 6:20 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I read this excellent interview several weeks ago from a link at the Dennis4President website. I agreed with 95% of his plans to change America's direction and restore some dignity and pride to the people...and earn back a smidgen of respect from the rest of the world. (The 5% I didn't agree with is his insistence to keep riding that dead horse, the Democratic Party; which has not been very 'democratic' for the past several administrations.) The main problem is that the corporate controlled media has shut him down so much that the mass of America's middle class and the rest of us who are just 'impoverished' do not hear him or see him! Once again they will be faced with the choice of the lesser of two evils as dictated by the polls and political pundits.

The comments by "xi_people", "notabilia", & "davescott" are dismal and depressing...but likely more accurate than I can to admit to, at this point. I still have some hope, and have already sent in my absentee vote for Kucinich in the FL primary, and will 'write him in' in November if that's my only option. Obama, Clinton, & Edwards are not going to change the "status quo" and I will never return to the USA if any of the Republican maniacs win again...with the exception of Ron Paul, but he won't get their party's nomination either!

We really do NEED a revolution but that won't happen until things get a hell of a lot worse; which may not be too far away! The enemy (our government) is too well armed and, as evidenced by 9/11, would not hesitate to use deadly force against any large, angry demonstration seeking redress and trying to exercise "free speech", that used to be guaranteed by the Constitution!

I agree with 'mylesh' that Kucinich should bolt to another ticket, for practicality and philosophical blending. Maybe we can get a Kucinich/Paul (or vice versa) ticket yet. They would have to make some compromises but whatever they came up with would be infinitely better than what is being offered elsewhere!!!
VOTE KUCINICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul in ChiangMai

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BACKBONE AWARD TO KUCINCH!
Posted by: drricklippin on Jan 19, 2008 6:32 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rarely (unfortunately) I send a deserving politician my backbone award for the politician who actually has one.

For 2007 I sent this award, comprised if a small plastic model of a backbone,to Dennis Kucinich.I received a nice letter of gratitude from him.

Electable or not, Dennis Kucinich is a role model for the future of how a politicians should conduct themselves.

The nation should embrace this very fine patriot! His courage alone deserves our serious attention.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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» nice gesture Posted by: Ripcord
Dennis's economic proposals are exactly the solution that ...
Posted by: TarryFaster on Jan 19, 2008 6:40 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
is purposed in the excellent 5 part video "Money As Debt."

Take some time to educate yourself as to what we need to do with this mess --

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Face It: Kucinich Is The Only Dem. Candidate
Posted by: left_libertarian on Jan 19, 2008 8:31 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
worth 2 sh!ts.

If you think that Obama, Clinton, or Edwards will immediately withdraw all US troops from Iraq, then you are very naive.

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Dennis IS the only real "Dem"
Posted by: Timothy Green on Jan 19, 2008 8:40 AM   
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I worked on Kucinich's 2004 campaign, but ended up voting for Kerry.
Never Again.
The Democratic Party is Dead. Though I think Edwards has come some distance to integrity, Kucinich is the only candidate that embodies progressive values in word AND deed.
If he doesn't make the nomination, I am writing him in. I will never again vote for the lesser of two evils.

Go Dennis!

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Be as courageous as Dennis!Vote his platform IN.Vote Kucinich.
Posted by: lenioui on Jan 19, 2008 8:52 AM   
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I certainly appreciate the reporter/writer of this story. Kucinich's entire belief system and ideas for implementation of those beliefs are so profound. We really do need him as President. I am not happy with knowing that of the three main democratic candidates, none of them have voting records that affirm getting out of Iraq. The mainstream media recently has switched their focus from Iraq to the economy. And now there is talk of a pittance check to "stimulate" our economy. Dennis always ties the economy and the war. The media is counting on Americans to not look beyond the superficial layer of this political/economic offering, essentially a buy of the vote for war. The big multinational companies, the Bush administration and the Congress, our military-industrial complex, those in power voting for war, are counting on Americans to not tie the economic stimulus package to the war. Dennis always ties the economy and the war. That's why we do not hear from him on those mainstream media networks. And Dennis always ties our nations' treaties to one of the main reasons why illegal immigration became so rampant. He "gets" how violence is learned, and so is non-violence. He includes people. He includes all people. He stands for a government that includes ALL people. Why would any person want less than that? That's a rhetorical question. We know the answer. People who do not want to include other people, are people who have something to gain from the oppression of those people. Financial wealth. You know....I'm voting my conscience. That's the spiritual wealth I bring to the table. It is incredibly deplorable after examining the evidence of exploitation by the oil companies of people all around the world, to stand for anything less than renewable sources of energy. Dennis stands for renewable energy sources. His WGA platform is excellent. And even if there were not a such thing as global warming, which there is, but if there weren't, that these big oil companies are drilling and killing (see Amy Goodman's video) for this resource, it remains horrifying that we all passively participate in the consumption of oil. We participate, up to now because of the stranglehold the oil companies have on our ability to discover, develop and access the renewable forms of energy. Perhaps someone is organizing this already, but at such and such time, we all stop driving, we stop our cars on the highway, on the roadways and we create gridlock. We get out of our cars and look eye to eye at each other and we take our cell phones and we snap each others photos and we video tape our protest of our failed energy policies, of oil's murderous exploitation, and we commune on the highways, the roadways, to seek unity for an standard of energy without carbon. And we remain there, we chant, we yell, we get our voices heard. It will be our refusal to proceed with the status quo that will bring our deepest desire. A clean, safe world to live and play. Hug the driver next to you for stopping. SHOW THE WORLD, the gridlock, the stranglehold, and difference between the real American and the wealthy, dirty oil government. I'm sure there is already this movement out there. Someone tell me where it is. HEY! VOTE FOR KUCINICH!!!!

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They Count the Vote. We don't count!
Posted by: lc on Jan 19, 2008 8:54 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The vote has been rigged since 2000. Nothing has changed except for the worse. Ergo, there is no significant right wing of Christian conservatives. That is delusion propagated by power elites counting the votes and who need some cover for their obvious theft. As long as the public is deceived into fighting among ourselves, they win every time because nobody is doing anything about it. Divide and Conquer, plus control who counts the vote, equals mass deception. Let's talk about Michael Jackson instead of hundreds of priests molesting children or politicians and evangelist ministers caught in homosexual plunders.
Fear and Loathing abounds in the US where we still think we can do something about it. It is over. They own US. Your vote does not count. Their vote is the only vote that counts and only one of their votes is worth all of our votes. Denial is so hard but IM 62, an idealist from the '60's whose long, life-history in America always comes back to the old song of my youth: "Eve of Destruction."
IM
Belteshazzar

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Kucinich: An old agenda in a new wrapper
Posted by: waterislifeaguaesvida on Jan 19, 2008 9:26 AM   
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Dennis Kucinch remains dedicated to a two-party system. It is a closed system in regards to millions of voters. It cannot be opened by working within the Democratic Party. The point is progressive politics have a small constituency.

There are Greens who are trying to expand the base of support but even some of them think it can be done by repeating the 60's agenda and strategy. What is needed is a new strategy that goes to the heart of issues with a new strategy. For example, the issue of taxes has a fundamental hold on the popular mandate given to Dems and Repugs that cannot simply be opposed by traditional liberal programs from Congress. "All politics are local politics". To address water issues there needs to be local entities established that bring in stakeholders at the bioregional level where their position is distinct from their own national parties. To deal with war Kucinch wants Congress to act. There is no reason to wait for them. States can pick up the ball and take action to minimize utilization of the Guard by establishing ciivilian response teams to address natural disasters and emergencies.

Bottom line: formulate the policies around the strategy and grow and become more self-defining based on the electoral work. It is a mistake to presume that a pre-conceived agenda from a previous historical period can simply be pasted onto the current political debate. If people really want to play a relevant role in American politics we need to listen to the American people and not be afraid of their input.

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The Holy Triangle
Posted by: craigandrew on Jan 19, 2008 9:27 AM   
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When I was in college studying Forestry at Colorado State University, there were three classes that I dubbed the Holy Triangle. I called them the Holy Triangle because, in their purity, they stood absolutely opposed to one another, but were all completely necessary to our education. Those three classes were Forest Ecology, Forest Economics, and Silviculture. (Silviculture is known as "the art and science of growing a stand of timber", but for our purposes "the meat and potatoes of the science of forest management" will suffice.) We forestry students were not the only students who had to take the Holy Triangle. In fact, most students in the College of Natural Resources had to take these three classes... and that is where the lesson began.

In the Fall semester we all sat through Forest Ecology and enjoyed the touchy-feely interrelationships between forest elements that is ecology. But in the Spring, we all moved to Forest Economics and Silviculture, and without fail there were more than a few students who got angry at the professors; as if it was their fault economics is so cold and calculating; as if it was their fault that management is so goal oriented. It seemed - from my biased perspective - that only the forestry students understood that it was the purpose of these three classes to teach us things in their pure form, and it was our duty as free thinking humans to find our own balance, our own point within the triangle the three classes outlined, and apply what we had learned in a way that expressed our own understanding.

The significance of this is that I am always asked why I do not vote, and the simple answer is that none of the candidates or political parties represent my views; our political system is lacking a point in the triangle. We have Community Ecology (liberals) and Economics (conservatives), but we have no party that represents The Science of Governance. Truthfully, on the locus between Ecology and Economics, Democrats and Republicans exist pretty close to center, while parties like the Greens are further left and the Libertarians are further right. As a Forester, I have, in the past, stomped my feet and declared myself to be dead center in the balance between ecology, economics, and management(with management on top), a place known as "sustainability", but after some experience I now know myself to be a little above and a bit to the left of center; I am more interested in the Science of Management. Politically, I am no different... I do not care about the size of our government so long as it is structured well and successfully and efficiently achieves its' stated goals. And, I do not care about any specific laws or policies so long as they reflect the will of a majority of the citizenry and does not assume my involvement as mandatory.

I am no different than any other American, or person for that matter. I will roll with the punches and make do with what is put in front of me. If I am a part of the majority I will lend my hand to achieve our goals, and if I am a part of the minority I will politely step aside and let the majority give it their best. However, I see that the structure and processes of our government have become corrupt or flat out broken, and I see that the effect of this is a elite minority with increasing influence. Eventually, if history can be trusted, the corruption will become complete, and the ruling minority will blame the majorities passivity for its failure and endeavor to try and force the majority to engage in the pursuit of their goals.

The evolution of civilization is propelled by the battled between tyranny and freedom... with tyranny being minority rule, and freedom being majority rule.

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» SAGE Posted by: Ripcord
It's the corporate propaganda system that muzzles Kucinich
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jan 19, 2008 9:35 AM   
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And that's the heart of the problem. No corporate propaganda system, no invasion of Iraq, period.

Who amplified the Bush & Cheney lies about nuclear and biological weapons in Iraq?

Who has refused to discuss impeachment of Cheney or Bush, despite pushing impeachment of Clinton on a daily basis?

No surprises here. If you haven't seen "The Power of Nightmares", watch it.

Intro:
"In the past, politicians promised to create a better world. They had different ways of achieving this, but their power and authority came from the optimistic visions they offered their people. Those dreams failed, and today, people have lost faith in ideologies. Increasingly, politicians are seen simply as managers of public life.

But now, they have discovered a new role that restores their power and authority. Instead of delivering dreams, politicians now promise to protect us - from nightmares. They say that they will rescue us from dreadful dangers that we cannot see and do not understand - and the greatest danger of all is international terrorism, a powerful and sinister network with sleeper cells across the world - a threat that needs to be fought with a War on Terror.

But much of this threat is a fantasy, which has been exaggerated and distorted by politicians. It is a dark illusion that has spread unquestioned through governments around the world, the security services, and the international media. This is a series of films about how and why that fantasy was created.”


How does this relate to Kucinich? Here's a quote from the above article:

"Frankly, every official of the Bush administration who was involved in the execution of an aggressive war would be held accountable under the laws of this country. There are provisions within our current laws. The laws of the United States incorporate under article six of the Constitution all treaties. Our leaders do not have the right to make a war of aggression. They have to abide by the Geneva Convention and by international law. I see a different security posture and a different energy and economic policy for this country."

That's the rationale response, isn't it? However, the corporate media, one of the main architects of the "War on Terror", don't want to see that happen. Their shareholders are making too much money off of "Homeland Security" contracts, Iraq and Afghanistan contracts, etc.

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» Right on Posted by: Ripcord
The Mighty Oak
Posted by: aonghus36 on Jan 19, 2008 9:53 AM   
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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

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» RE: The Mighty Oak Posted by: Longdream
The answer for America? Ron Paul/Dennis Kucinich. NM
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jan 19, 2008 9:57 AM   
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It's time for Progressive Democrats to distinguish themselves.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Jan 19, 2008 10:12 AM   
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Democratic leadership and too many Democratic Congressmen are entrenched in the corporatocracy. Their brand, "Republican Light," will never gain prominence with the American people, as a derivative form of a bad ideology.

Unfortunately, because of our anachronistic and undemocratic election process, formation of a third party would hand the reigns of power back to the Republicans.

I would like to see Progressive Democrats like Kucinich announce themselves as such, and to campaign within the party for control of policy. We also need independent financial support for strong progressive challengers to Demcratic incumbents.

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» In the works Posted by: Joshua Holland
IRV
Posted by: toddcory on Jan 19, 2008 10:29 AM   
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Three letters would allow us to vote vote our hearts and vote pragmatically.

IRV = instant voter runoff.

Todd

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» RE: IRV Posted by: JosephHill
» Amen for IRV Posted by: MuddPi
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