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Creeping Fascism: From Nazi Germany to Post 9/11 America

By Ray McGovern, Consortium News. Posted December 29, 2007.


Americans today are seeing the same sheepish submissiveness that characterized Germany after the burning of the Reichstag.
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"There are few things as odd as the calm, superior indifference with which I and those like me watched the beginnings of the Nazi revolution in Germany, as if from a box at the theater ... Perhaps the only comparably odd thing is the way that now, years later ..."

These are the words of Sebastian Haffner (pen name for Raimund Pretzel), who as a young lawyer in Berlin during the 1930s experienced the Nazi takeover and wrote a firsthand account. His children found the manuscript when he died in 1999 and published it the following year as "Geschichte eines Deutschen" (The Story of a German). The book became an immediate bestseller and has been translated into 20 languages -- in English as "Defying Hitler."

I recently learned from his daughter Sarah, an artist in Berlin, that yesterday was the 100th anniversary of Haffner's birth. She had seen an earlier article in which I quoted her father and emailed to ask me to "write some more about the book and the comparison to Bush's America ... this is almost unbelievable."

More about Haffner below. Let's set the stage first by recapping some of what has been going on that may have resonance for readers familiar with the Nazi ascendancy, noting how "odd" it is that the frontal attack on our Constitutional rights is met with such "calm, superior indifference."

Goebbels would be proud

It has been two years since top New York Times officials decided to let the rest of us in on the fact that the George W. Bush administration had been eavesdropping on American citizens without the court warrants required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978. The Times had learned of this well before the election in 2004 and acquiesced to White House entreaties to suppress the damaging information.

In late fall 2005 when Times correspondent James Risen's book "State of War: the Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration," revealing the warrantless eavesdropping, was being printed, Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. recognized that he could procrastinate no longer. It would simply be too embarrassing to have Risen's book on the street, with Sulzberger and his associates pretending that this explosive eavesdropping story did not fit Adolph Ochs' trademark criterion: All The News That's Fit To Print. (The Times' own ombudsman, Public Editor Byron Calame, branded the newspaper's explanation for the long delay in publishing this story "woefully inadequate.")

When Sulzberger told his friends in the White House that he could no longer hold off on publishing in the newspaper, he was summoned to the Oval Office for a counseling session with the president on Dec. 5, 2005. Bush tried in vain to talk him out of putting the story in the Times. The truth would out; part of it, at least.

Glitches

There were some embarrassing glitches. For example, unfortunately for National Security Agency Director Lt. Gen. Keith Alexander, the White House neglected to tell him that the cat would soon be out of the bag. So on Dec. 6, Alexander spoke from the old talking points in assuring visiting House intelligence committee member Rush Holt, D-N.J., that the NSA did not eavesdrop on Americans without a court order.

Still possessed of the quaint notion that generals and other senior officials are not supposed to lie to congressional oversight committees, Holt wrote a blistering letter to Gen. Alexander after the Times, on Dec. 16, front-paged a feature by Risen and Eric Lichtblau, "Bush Lets U.S. Spy on Callers Without Courts." But House Intelligence Committee chair Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., apparently found Holt's scruples benighted; Hoekstra did nothing to hold Alexander accountable for misleading Holt, his most experienced committee member, who had served as an intelligence analyst at the State Department.

What followed struck me as bizarre. The day after the Dec. 16 Times feature article, the president of the United States publicly admitted to a demonstrably impeachable offense. Authorizing illegal electronic surveillance was a key provision of the second article of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. On July 27, 1974, this and two other articles of impeachment were approved by bipartisan votes in the House Committee on the Judiciary.

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Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, the publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in Washington, D.C. A former Army officer and CIA analyst, he worked in Germany for five years; he is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.

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It's heeeeere...........
Posted by: vox persona on Dec 29, 2007 12:19 AM   
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When fascism comes to America, it will be carrying a cross and wrapped in an American flag. -Sinclair Lewis-

EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF FASCISM:
-Powerful and continuing nationalism
-Disdain for human rights
-Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
-Supremacy of the military
-Rampant sexism
-Controlled mass media
-Obsession with national security
-Religion and government intertwined
-Corporate power protected
-Labor power suppressed
-Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
-Obsession with crime and punishment
-Rampant cronyism and corruption
-Fraudulent elections

Sound familiar?
Scary.......

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» Book burnings? Posted by: sliver
» RE: Book burnings? Posted by: Intellect
» RE: It's heeeeere........... Posted by: jlramsey
Time for New Democratic Leadership ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Dec 29, 2007 12:55 AM   
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Pelosi and Reid have failed the Democratic Party and The United States of America. Their incompetence, cowardice and capitulation have endangered and put in doubt the very Constitutional freedoms they were sworn to uphold.

Glenn Greenwald has documented much of it :

- Reid and company target the true enemy: "Dodd and his allies"

- Harry Reid -- compare and contrast

- Harry Reid's FISA games

- Democratic complicity in Bush's torture regimen

- Democrats show Beltway "strength," avoid being depicted as weak

- The administration's best friends in Congress come to its defense.

- Harry Reid works to ensure telecom amnesty, warrantless surveillance

- What FISA capitulations are Democrats planning next?

- Democrats' responsibility for Bush radicalism

http://dir.salon.com/topics/glenn_greenwald/

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

With Leaders like these who needs enemies ?

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» Why? It's just a structure Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Why not? Posted by: oregoncharles
» YES!!! Posted by: timemachinist
» RE: YES!!! Please! Posted by: Lauren
» RE: YES!!! Posted by: Intellect
» RE: YES!!! Posted by: Intellect
» RE: YES!!! Posted by: srimbael
» Tell us something we don't know, MoFo. Posted by: common intelligence
The Nazi theme is worn out - try the Stasi line instead.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 29, 2007 1:04 AM   
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Or at least be a little more specific. Gestapo tactics, maybe? Every totalitarian system of government sets up massive state surveillance of the population, regardless of whether they call themselves national socialists, law-and-order supporters, or communist collectivists.

Why? Because behind all totalitarian systems are relatively small groups of people who enrich themselves while screwing over everyone else. That's who Bush represents, and that's who Hitler represented, and that's who Stalin represented. Of course they want to keep their eyes on the general public, who sooner or later find out what's going on.

The best response is to spy right back, and publicize what you find out. The main story here, the fundamental one, is the international fossil fuel business, which is shored up by the international weapons business. It's the modern equivalent of the slave trade in the 1700s - the slave industry owned entire countries, and entire parliaments as well.

Billionaires in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia and Britain want to keep their hands on their lucrative cash flows, and the last thing they want is to see themselves forced to compete on a level playing field with upstart renewable energy platforms. They'd rather install idiotic but controllable puppets (like Bush) via fraudulent elections and send kids off to die in the Middle East so that they can seize the oilfields of the region.

What we really have here is national socialism - tax dollars are collected by the IRS and handed out to wealthy interests while everyone else gets the shaft. Roosevelt called it 'private socialism.'

Halliburton, Enron, Exxon, Chevorn, Blackwater, BP, Battelle Memorial Institute, Lockheed, Shell, Northrup, SAIC, Dyncorp, AT&T, Gilead - these are just a few of the corporate interests who have been making billions under the modern version of national socialism.

Of course, the Nazis did the same thing - they got in bed with I.G. Farben, and gave huge state subsidies to that megacorporation - such as building labor camps at Auschwitz and providing the slaves, all so that I.G. Farben could have cheap labor for their Buna methanol and synthetic rubber factories. Stalin used similar methods - including outsourcing polluting industries to Soviet satellites like Romania, and creating megacorporate agribusiness systems as he drove farmers off their lands and onto the 'collective farms' (just as Wall Street did to farmers in the U.S. and Mexico). Stalin's Board of Directors was the Central Soviet Committee.

As far as domestic surveillance goes, the Soviets had their KGB and their Stasi, and the Nazis had their Gestapo and their Good German informants. Basically, the power-mad left is really no different than the power-mad right.

So, what's to be done? Demand that your politicians uphold the Constitution. Read them the Bill of Rights, for starters. If they are beholden to corporate interests (i.e. Obama and Clinton, for example), don't vote for them - and remember, the corporate media is owned by these modern reincarnations of Hitler, Stalin and IG Farben - don't buy their spin. Rather, demand the complete breakup of the media conglomerates under antitrust laws.

By the way, the fact is that all this domestic spying is illegal under the constitution's fourth amendment, which should be referenced here:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seize."

That does indeed include personal communications of all forms, including written and electronic.

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» Best analysis ever.... Posted by: CatDad
Gays are the litmus test
Posted by: HoboHomo on Dec 29, 2007 1:56 AM   
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NO society can truly consider itself humane, so long as it allows and even encourages persecution of its non-hetero populace, and thinks nothing of draconic laws and tacit sanctions which deny gays the basic rights allowed the hetero majority.

Therefore, as long as gays are legally discriminated against, the Door of Persecution towards any other group remains ajar. It is indeed a false and hideous notion for any person to parade pride in his nation's presumed freedom for all citizens while queers remain terrorized by that very same nation.

No other minority is discriminated against with such blithe cooperation by other sorely persecuted minorities, who see nothing wrong with this!

That is why we sexual minorities are the ultimate litmus test for gauging society's humaneness. For there are times when all other minorities (and women) enjoy relative freedom and respect...yet LGBTs continue to be relegated to 2nd-class citizenship and gov't sanctioned terrorism.

--
Zeke Krahlin
http://www.gay-bible.org/steal

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» I knew it Posted by: Gestalt
» What about Gay Children? Posted by: rjgwood
» RE: I knew it Posted by: HoboHomo
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: modeler
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: HoboHomo
» Hi Lauren Posted by: timemachinist
» RE: Hi Lauren Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: HoboHomo
» Drug Subcultures are MORE Persecuted Posted by: timemachinist
» RE: You too harryf200! ;o) Posted by: channing
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: parmenicleitus
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: HoboHomo
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: parmenicleitus
» RE: Love Posted by: parmenicleitus
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: racetoinfinity
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: Geolager
» RE: Gays are the litmus test Posted by: nikolai
maybe Pelosi should think about whether she would prefer a plea bargain to a
Posted by: Suzon on Dec 29, 2007 4:15 AM   
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possible impeachment. I would think that a successful impeachment would deprive the impeached person of their pension and benefits.

Come clean, Nancy, about your involvement and be forgiven. Keeping quiet about wrongdoing is always a more dangerous position.

There are plenty of laws which could be applied, including criminal negligence.

I lived through the McCarthy era. America did come to its senses then and it can come to its senses now!

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Oh no, not again!
Posted by: harryf200 on Dec 29, 2007 5:07 AM   
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I am not in the least anti-Gay, although as a sometimes writer I still resent the appropriation of a good noun to being a proper noun that inadequately describes homosexuality - after all, Gays are not all gay. Indeed, some of 'em are darn right miserable! But that's a whole different essay. In fact, one of my best friends is Gay. But the World does not revolve around Gays. (It barely revolves around humans, although we also mistakenly think it does, too.) Thus, the persecution of Gays is no more a litmus test of Fascism (as distinct from Nazism - they are usually confused, and I think they are here)than is book burning, persecution of people with views different to those of the leadership (e.g. abortionists? Communists? anti-war? non-Christians?), persecution of various ethnic groups (e.g. blacks, Jews, etc.), people with mental illness, and so on.

It often is about Gays but it isn't JUST about Gays!

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» RE: thank you... Posted by: channing
» RE: "War On Greed" Posted by: Lauren
» RE: "War On Greed" Posted by: channing
» Harry, you are SO wrong Posted by: timemachinist
» RE: points 3,4 and 5 Posted by: channing
» RE: points 3,4 and 5 Posted by: harryf200
Lived through the first disaster as well
Posted by: modeler on Dec 29, 2007 5:25 AM   
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I still remember the national security system in the style of SA (storm trooper) gangs on the streets of Berlin and the first concentration camps near the Tempelhof airport and in Oranienburg. I still wonder what happened to schoolmates like Werner Oppenheimer, Haenschen Uri, Brigitte Seif , Hanna Schwarz etc. etc. They came after my father too, luckily that particular Sunday he was out of town and a membership card to the Luftschutzbund (Air defense assn)which he obtained on a friends advice a few days before, got him of the list it seems ,it lay on the table for the SA to see. The telephone, forget it, you did not know who else was on it besides your party on the other end. The Reichstag fire was also blamed on terrorists (like a Dutch communist named van der Lubbe) but a welcome reason for extraordinary powers created by and for Hitler and gang. There was also a national security boss named Himmler and a propaganmdas liar named Goebbels. Between them they subdued anyone who dared to muck up. Sounds familiar? The present opposition is just as gutless as the one in 1933, except that their leaders spent years in KZ lagers (Concentration Camps) which were explained to us as copies of the British camps in South Africa during the Boer war. Wake up America before it is too late,the similarities are obvious.

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» USA has always been fascist for some Posted by: timemachinist
WHO NEEDS ENEMIES - PART II
Posted by: wilty on Dec 29, 2007 5:46 AM   
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To mmickinl:

You forgot one more glaring legislative player:
Rep. Jane Harman, bless her little treasonous heart, author of that despicable legislation -
H.R. 1955; which in its essence, makes anyone who even dares "think" about resisting the Nazi/Neocon takeover of our own country, a terrorist, a criminal. To speak up as an American citizen, and to press a viewpoint that would run counter to the Bush Administration stance, would put that individual at great risk as being branded a "Homegrown Terrorist!!"

What has happened to the 1st Amendment?

Also, what is happening with the Mainstream Press, polluted now, to such an extent with
Bush Amerinazi power, is something Goebbels would have gloated over.

Finally, adding insult to injury, the Harman legislation repeatedly refers to information being reported in the netroots, as propaganda.

What nerve!!! Who the hell does she think she is kidding, here? The joke must be on us!!

Haha, I say, with a bitterness so entrenched in my mouth, that I'm having a hard time spitting it out - but, I am SPITTING MAD about this, and none of us should let these bastards walk all over us.

We must, ALL OF US, NOW, stand up, and fight back, or else we are going to lose it all, BIG TIME!!!

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» RE: WHO NEEDS ENEMIES - PART II Posted by: harryf200
Nazi Germany?
Posted by: radical53 on Dec 29, 2007 6:14 AM   
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Well, Ray McGovern has gone 'round the bend and over the top. Here's a guy who was been passed off on national TV as an expert critical of the Bush policies on Iraq and the so-called war on terror. Now he is comparing the US to Nazi Germany. This article is not only foolish but it also demonstrates a total lack of understanding of Nazi Germany, the holocaust, and the current situation. I have been angry enough over the past 8 years to draw this type of analogy, but just a few moments of rational thought has been enough to make me drop the idea. Let's lock McGovern in a room with Ann Coulter and let them trade emotional insults based on ignorance and irrationality.

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» Fascism and Drug War are very similar Posted by: timemachinist
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: harryf200
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: FDR Posted by: harryf200
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: EdinIowa
» Uncle Teddy Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: Uncle Teddy Posted by: EdinIowa
» RE: Uncle Teddy Posted by: 2dogarage
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: EdinIowa
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: medicis
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Nazi Germany? Posted by: mick3
Call for action
Posted by: mutualaid on Dec 29, 2007 7:14 AM   
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http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/12/93185.html

here above are some actions already taking place.

Would have been appreciated if McGovern had been less emotional and more practical. S 1959 must, can and WILL be defeated.

Apparently the RAND Corporation is behind it, targeting of anti-globalization, environmental and anarchist activists, and muslim organizations.

Go to link above. Organize demos at your congressperson's office and get media attention to this unpatriotic bill - mention RAND and Sue Collins too. They are the culprits.

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More on 'Drug War' expansion. Take ACTION today!!!
Posted by: mutualaid on Dec 29, 2007 7:30 AM   
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current 'drug war' expansion negotiated by Bush & (Mexican President) Calderon and now being considered as part of Iraq Emergency Appropriations is being fought by network of friends of Brad Will, the U.S. journalist who was killed by Mexican government & security forces as he was covering the teachers' strike in Oaxaca Mexico.

Here's who killed Brad Will:

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=19485

Here's more info on Plan Mexico:
http://www.friendsofbradwill.org/category/plan-mexico/

and there's a place on the right column to subscribe to this listserve. They're doing much against the drug war expansion - through lobbying, civil disobedience, media exposure, and public outreach and education.

The context for 'drug war' expansion into mexico is a clamp down on Mexican civil liberties and a bolstering of authoritarian tendencies of the Mexican government as more and more Mexicans are becoming mobilized against the impacts of "free trade' deals, impunity for govt. human rights abuses and corruption which is impoverishing them. More on that on the second page of posts in the Plan Mexico category:

Oh, the steelworkers just came out against Plan Mexico:

www.usw.org/usw/program/content/4377.php

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About that 911 Reichstag...
Posted by: channing on Dec 29, 2007 8:00 AM   
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New Discovery of thermite in WTC dust:

Dr. Steven Jones has already established the chemical signature of thermite reactions in the dust from Lower Manhattan prior to this, but this new analysis identifies thermite itself in tiny 2-sided flakes 1-1,500 microns across existing in relative abundance in both samples taken from two locations. One sample taken within 20 minutes of collapse. The logical implication is that not all thermite was burned off in the WTC demolitions:

Can anyone say "Smoking Gun of Advanced Explosives Planned well in advance, say, January 2001 or so?!

Ray does exquisite work over and over, but he also beats around the "bushit" a little and for good reason... but it's easy for somebody like me to come out and say it:

"PNAC Is Central to the Execution of the 911 False Flag Operation on the United States of America which has been used as a causus beli for a Fascist Coup of the US Constitution, the HiJacking of the US Military, a Terroizing War On Terror and other International War Crimes all in pursuit of World Dominion and Resource Monopolization"

Ray is helping to "quarantine" this Cabal along with other Patriots, like wagons circling, and drawing an inescapable noose that gets tighter and tighter. We're getting very close to a clear picture of the totality of the Crimes and who's who in the pecking-order... Can anyone say "RICO PNAC" yet?

To save our Constitution, I don't believe we have a choice with Congress Petrified and/or Bought by the trillion$ being spewed from the endless fountains of MIC/Energy Plunder.

We don't need a "candidate", we need a RICO PNAC! The candidates will all expose themselves accordingly.

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» 911 truthiness is a cointelpro operation Posted by: thoughtcriminal
Here is a more succinct overview of our situation.
Posted by: TarryFaster on Dec 29, 2007 8:14 AM   
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If you are interested in a brief history of what is happening to us, click here.

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Alden
Posted by: alden on Dec 29, 2007 8:22 AM   
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What's RICO? What's PNAC? If thermite was found, this is very important. Can you provide sources for this information?

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» RE: Alden Posted by: channing
» Thermite Resources Posted by: makeadifference
Military officer lying
Posted by: fdgsr on Dec 29, 2007 9:00 AM   
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I post this as my first introduction to lying in the Army. As a young lieutenant, I was tasked shortly after I was commissioned to write a periodic report for the Post Surgeon at Fort Lee, Virginia. It was supposed to be The Command Health Report. As assistant Preventive Medicine Officer and Laboratory Officer, I was in a position to know about the command health and some things that impacted it. I studied the appropriate Army Regulations concerning the Command Health Report and did one in complete compliance and in the spirit of the intent.

My Adjutant and Executive Officer sent it back for revision. I was told to take out the inspection results of the Officer's Club kitchen because it contained truthful but damaging information about the filthy place where food for the officers was prepared. When I told them that I was reporting on factual inspection results, the report was redone in the office of the Commander of the medical facility with the Executive Officer and Adjutant doing most of it. The resulting document was watered down to a spineless claim that all was well in the area of Command Health. I was asked to sign it, and when threatened with retaliation on my Annual Officer Efficiency, I signed it and forgot about it.

Many times in my career as a Medical Service Officer over about 16 years, I encountered the command necessity to lie to the command structure so that they could present clean documentary reports to the higher level, all the way to the President. I found it in Viet Nam, in Berlin, and in other places. I found it in my own efficiency reports and in the reports I wrote for other officers. After being passed over for promotion, euphemistically called, "Retained in Grade", I made Major in time to retire as a major.

The Army Officer Corps are institutions of liars. It is not surprising that a high ranking General would lie for the president. After all, his promotion to that rank was a result of lies, and his appointment to his position was supported by lies.

God help us,if we ever have a major war like WWII. We could not win it with the leadership we have. There are no more Eisenhowers, MacArthurs, Marshalls, or Bradleys to serve a President like Truman. Hell, we will never have another Truman in our political system.

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» RE: Military officer lying Posted by: makeadifference
» RE: Military officer lying Posted by: Lector
gradual and silent encroachments
Posted by: particle61 on Dec 29, 2007 9:39 AM   
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Or perhaps, speedy and appalling encroachments.

redstateupdate.net covers the dedicated dismantling of the constitution, excessively enabling executive orde