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Questioning 9/11 ... With Caution

By Robert Fisk, Truthdig. Posted September 4, 2007.


Forget the conspiracy theories. Middle East correspondent Robert Fisk just wants a few questions answered.

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Originally posted in The Independent.

Each time I lecture abroad on the Middle East, there is always someone in the audience -- just one -- whom I call the "raver." Apologies here to all the men and women who come to my talks with bright and pertinent questions -- often quite humbling ones for me as a journalist -- and which show that they understand the Middle East tragedy a lot better than the journalists who report it.

But the "raver" is real. He has turned up in corporeal form in Stockholm and in Oxford, in Sao Paulo and in Yerevan, in Cairo, in Los Angeles and, in female form, in Barcelona. No matter the country, there will always be a "raver."

His -- or her -- question goes like this. Why, if you believe you're a free journalist, don't you report what you really know about 9/11? Why don't you tell the truth -- that the Bush administration (or the CIA or Mossad, you name it) blew up the twin towers? Why don't you reveal the secrets behind 9/11?

The assumption in each case is that Fisk knows -- that Fisk has an absolute concrete, copper-bottomed fact-filled desk containing final proof of what "all the world knows" (that usually is the phrase) -- who destroyed the twin towers. Sometimes the "raver" is clearly distressed. One man in Cork screamed his question at me, and then -- the moment I suggested that his version of the plot was a bit odd -- left the hall, shouting abuse and kicking over chairs.

Usually, I have tried to tell the "truth"; that while there are unanswered questions about 9/11, I am the Middle East correspondent of The Independent, not the conspiracy correspondent; that I have quite enough real plots on my hands in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Iran, the Gulf, etc, to worry about imaginary ones in Manhattan. My final argument -- a clincher, in my view -- is that the Bush administration has screwed up everything -- militarily, politically diplomatically -- it has tried to do in the Middle East; so how on earth could it successfully bring off the international crimes against humanity in the United States on 11 September 2001?

Well, I still hold to that view. Any military which can claim -- as the Americans did two days ago -- that al-Qaida is on the run is not capable of carrying out anything on the scale of 9/11. "We disrupted al-Qaida, causing them to run," Colonel David Sutherland said of the preposterously code-named "Operation Lightning Hammer" in Iraq's Diyala province. "Their fear of facing our forces proves the terrorists know there is no safe haven for them." And more of the same, all of it untrue.

Within hours, al-Qaida attacked Baquba in battalion strength and slaughtered all the local sheikhs who had thrown in their hand with the Americans. It reminds me of Vietnam, the war which George Bush watched from the skies over Texas -- which may account for why he this week mixed up the end of the Vietnam war with the genocide in a different country called Cambodia, whose population was eventually rescued by the same Vietnamese whom Mr Bush's more courageous colleagues had been fighting all along.

But -- here we go. I am increasingly troubled at the inconsistencies in the official narrative of 9/11. It's not just the obvious non sequiturs: where are the aircraft parts (engines, etc) from the attack on the Pentagon? Why have the officials involved in the United 93 flight (which crashed in Pennsylvania) been muzzled? Why did flight 93's debris spread over miles when it was supposed to have crashed in one piece in a field? Again, I'm not talking about the crazed "research" of David Icke's Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster -- which should send any sane man back to reading the telephone directory.


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Poor Mr. Rove
Posted by: zyxwvut on Sep 4, 2007 1:05 AM   
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He is clearly not smart enough to realize what he said.

Bush's happily departed adviser Karl Rove once said that "we're an empire now -- we create our own reality."

That empires create their own reality is merely a temporary circumstance, an illusion for the most part, brought on by their power to control or influence the world they deal with.

This power burns itself out and reality sets in. The limits of imperial power are made clear when enough of the empire's opponents begin to react.

Our reality check has come in the form of Iraq's insurgency. Rove and the Bush gang are in denial.

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» 911 Remembered! Posted by: williameon
ADMIT IT ALREADY
Posted by: archae on Sep 4, 2007 1:13 AM   
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Robert, actually, you are a conspiracy theorist. You say you want the "whole story," well, that statement and many others indicate you know you're being lied to. So, be your normally bold self, lend your credibility to the educated conspiracy theorist movement, and take us over the hump! Don't accept their tainting the best expression for the situation. David Griffin punched them back by observing that the so-called official 9/11 explanation is the incredible conspiracy theory. Sorry you have to endure the occasional annoying out-of-tune choir members. But, with our last chances slipping away to bring the worst terrorists to justice before the end of their terms seemingly legitimizes them, we need you now to legitimize the opposition. (I realize Robert likely won't read this, but that's how I felt like writing it)

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» RE: ADMIT IT ALREADY Posted by: chomsky
Who cares about a small crime like 9/11?
Posted by: IanA on Sep 4, 2007 3:55 AM   
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Wikipedia defines conspiracy theories as : “A conspiracy theory attempts to attribute the ultimate cause of an event or chain of events (usually political, social, or historical events), or the concealment of such causes from public knowledge, to a secret, and often deceptive plot by a covert alliance of powerful or influential people or organizations.”

9/11 was obviously a conspiracy as more than one persons got together to commit a crime. The “ultimate” cause of the crime and extent of the conspiracy is most certainly being kept a secret, while enormous effort has gone into erroneous an conflicting explanations that have been tact together by authorities and the 9/11 Commission to purvey a “theory” that does not and cannot hold with the known facts. But even the controversy supports the presumption.

As Karl Rove said "we're an empire now -- we create our own reality."

Although I very much respect the journalism of Mr. Fisk, it seems that his central argument in this is that “the Bush administration has screwed up everything -- militarily, politically diplomatically -- it has tried to do in the Middle East; so how on earth could it successfully bring off the international crimes against humanity in the United States on 11 September 2001?”

My question to Mr. Fisk is : “Have they really screwed up? What is their goal?”.

Think about it! Have they not followed a plan set out in the Project for the New American Century in quite some detail. It goes without saying that the singular dominance, or let’s call it tyranny of the United States of America over the rest of the world would require that either the rest of the world accept their fate and the enlightened vision of the Neo-cons or that they see it as a “temporary” adoration or re-alignment of “reality”, common sense, a shift from the accepted norms. How would one do that?

For example whether in Afghanistan or Iraq was it not unbelievable for an administration to go to war with no strategy for occupation of the liberated…. None at all… Was the theory “rolling democracy”, or just rolling havoc? Of course it works. Get enough guns and ammunition out there, a good wave of aerial destruction to get the ball rolling, set one lot against the other after creating a power vacuum let war, crime, disease, depopulation, and economic migration do the rest. It makes it easier to negotiate with the last guy standing for his oil, or for pipelines, or military bases, or labour laws, or whatever it is you desire. It’s worked fine so far, for Halliburton, the Carlyle group, for Boeing for BAE or Citicorp.

Irrespective of reality you just have to keep telling yourself that Bush is crazy, an idiot and America is a country of laws and democracy that could never: fiddle two elections, ignore the US Constitution, emasculate the UN Charter, ignore the Geneva convention, abrogate umpteen treaties, suspend habeas-corpus, develop secret lists of “suspects”, spy on its own people, institute kidnapping, torture and secret detention as a policy.

No, of course there is no other conspiracy here other than the one that is right in your face. It is not even hidden. Forget the questions and details of 9/11 and welcome to the new reality of designer mistakes. By accepting the mad hatters view and just “moving on” to the next seats “you” validate “their” reality. Get with the program. Hey, who cares about a small crime like 9/11? Culpability has been assigned!

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the more frightening the possibilities are the more we will want to avoid them
Posted by: Suzon on Sep 4, 2007 4:05 AM   
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Sometimes it's good to remind yourself that most of the time most of the world is managing fairly well.

Not in order to delude yourself or excuse yourself from acting responsibly but in order to keep a sane perspective. I remember reading in My Weekly Reader in grade school an article predicting massive starvation in India due to population increases. This didn't quite happen, did it?

As for 9/11, I think the Bush administration should have to prove that they didn't do it.

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ayebee
Posted by: ayebee on Sep 4, 2007 4:20 AM   
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the depths of the obfuscation here are impossible to peer thru. there is so much we dont know and so many possibilities that who can say with any certainty (that others will pay attention to) what really happened that day.
i neednt list the fishy, the dodgy and the downright scarily screwed up events leading up to, during and after 9/11. it would only serve to make my point that there are so many questions to be answered that no-one knows where to start and most not in the church will not begin to think about joining the choir.
are we to believe Fisk when he says the powers that be are incapable of pulling this off? no. why not? because there is a motive, an opportunity, no allibi and plenty of at least circumstancial evidence they did. it is also clear that the government may have known about 9/11 but let it happen. at least as possible is that part of the government knew and allowed it. maybe part of the government encouraged it while another part failed to act. maybe all parts took part. maybe none. my point is that everything from complete incompetence to full culpability is possible here. i personally err on the side of them 'helping' things along but i dont know anything for sure, apart from the odd scientific fact concerning melt-points and what not.
so we find oursleves disparate and spread over a wide range of possibilities. thats good for 'them' isnt it. what better way to dilute the outrage of the people than to pull off a plan so audacious and apparently obvious that those who take the time to investigate throw their hands in the air and cry foul while others think, 'no, surely not'.

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Fisk Shmisk, so what?
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Sep 4, 2007 4:29 AM   
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Who the hell cares how Fisk cycles and recycles his database regarding 9/11. The fact remains that if, as many believe, it was an "inside" job then it should be fully exposed because therein lies the answer to all that has ensued. We need more "ravers" and fewer duckers-if 50 million of us "raved" right this minute I am confident that a whole lot of things might change. Until then, we can listen to Fisk explain (who cares?), Craig get caught tapping his foot (gimme a fucking tea room break) and Maher diddling over a dimwit teen whose idiocy may well be equalled by the Ticksass tyrant. We know that the Republicans are craven maggots, but what the hell ever happended to the Deomcrats? We need to hear from Pelosi and Reid, not Fisk!

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this is my strategy too
Posted by: Don Garb on Sep 4, 2007 4:30 AM   
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I've given up telling people about melting points of steel and free fall speeds. It just causes lots of vehement arguments. Instead I just point out the destruction of evidence: all the steel beams shipped off to chinese smelters, the security camera tapes confiscated by the FBI, no black boxes, no bodies, no aircraft parts of any kind. And the best of all: the shredding of the audio tape recording of the air traffic controllers. Then there is the omissions by the main stream media: Cheney directing NORAD to stay away from those blips on the radar, supersonic jets loping along at 240mph, the west bound plane that went below the radar then appeared again a minute later headed back east, the unbelievable spiral dive executed by a rookie pilot who flunked his test to fly a single engine piston plane. The wreckage of every other plane crash in history sits in warehouses somewhere, laboriously reconstructed and studied. Except for these 911 planes, for which the only thing left is an intact passport lying on the dusty street. The Bush admin's attitude of "move along, nothing to see here" and the rest of the cover up is beyond debate.

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» RE: this is my strategy too Posted by: Lector
» Do Some Research Posted by: gary_7vn
CONSPIRACY @ the KOOL-AID STATE
Posted by: Hal on Sep 4, 2007 4:42 AM   
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“Let me repeat. I am not a conspiracy theorist. Spare me the ravers. Spare me the plots.”

No. I’ll not “spare” the conspiracy “plots” officially pumped out of a Washington cum MSM circus. The chief one being of hung over cave boys with WalMart tools that pulled off 911 (a conspiracy theory so vapid it never made theory status and so remains fantasy).

This supposed 911 “conspiracy” plot masterminded by the leader of said cave boys – “Tim Osman” (better known as CIA asset Osama Bin Laden ) apparently in the pocket of western and House of Saud elites.

But a 911 COVER-UP is a proven fact not “theory”. So is the 911-Israeli spy scandal and a cooked 911 “Commission” strung together and directed by neo-con Philip Zelikow who authored the 2002 pre-emptive war doctrine with Condi Rice for blood money “war on terror” starring Iraq War Inc.

Nice that you finally woke up. But spare us the denial bubble. Please…



“I saw papers that show the U.S. knew al-Qaeda would attack cities with airplanes… I gave [the 9-ll Commision] details of specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. This is not hearsay. These are things that are documented.”
MRS. SIBEL EDMONDS (whistleblower and former top-level FBI translator who gave closed session testimony to the 9-11 Commission. The Bush/Cheney administration silenced Edmonds with a court gag order citing the rarely used “state secrets privilege”. Interview UK Independent 4/2/04)

“It was a good thing for Israel…We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem.”
SIVAN KURZBERG (Israeli spy caught after celebrating with his team on the New Jersey shore as jetliners struck the WTC twin towers. Kurzberg and his team declared knowledge of the “terrorist” act when such information was not known. Kurzberg and at least two other members of his team were “Israeli intelligence operatives”. Sivan Kurzberg, his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari along with over a hundred other Israeli spies were arrested by the FBI and released to Israel due to intense pressure from Tel Aviv and Washington 9/11/2001)

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» RE: CONSPIRACY @ the KOOL-AID STATE Posted by: sasquuatch55
» Silverstein conspiracy Posted by: sasquuatch55
» Silverstein conspiracy Posted by: sasquuatch55
» anti-semitic. Posted by: sasquuatch55
and the answer is!!!!!!
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Sep 4, 2007 4:43 AM   
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I agree with Mr Fisk.. it is about time some of these questions are answered , if they have not already been, so we can rid ourselves of conspiracy theorist once and for all...

I seems pretty clear to me how beams can bend under load ..they dont have to melt.etc...

The Bush admin should have made it a priority to ensure the public knew exactly what transpired and how.. lack of clarity on their part just fuels the looney left on this isue!

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» Not just the looney left... Posted by: Swatopluk
» RE: and the answer is!!!!!! Posted by: Trazom
» RE: and the answer is!!!!!! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Ron Paul, Conservasaurus? Posted by: LeftWright
Science & 9/11
Posted by: Squarehead on Sep 4, 2007 5:13 AM   
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Robert Fisk, as always, insightful and logical. However, as regards the issues of temperature and structure, I would offer the thought that these 300 mph projectiles, each carrying approx 100 tonnes of kerosene, were something like a stroke of genius, as a terrorist event.

The conversion of that 100 tonnes of kerosene to aerosol dispersal in air, with an excellent availability of oxygen, obviously (I mean we all saw it) produced a very, very, effective Fuel-Air Mix bomb. The availability of other materials (Wood, plastics, paper, cardboard, adhesives) and the containment of heat within the building's structure fairly easily explain the temperature requirement for building collapse.

Conspiracies exist, certainly, including illegal US government activity, all sorts of agencies; it just does not make sense that this should be considered as one of them.

SNAFU is more likely. Your Fool-In-Chief's response after those horrific events shows it. A man in shock, unable to think or respond.

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» RE: Science & 9/11 Posted by: sallas
» RE: Science & 9/11 Posted by: Squarehead
» RE: Science & 9/11 Posted by: Trazom
» RE: Science & 9/11 Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Science??? & 9/11 Posted by: channing
» RE: Science & 9/11 Posted by: IanA
» RE:Thank You IanA Posted by: channing
» RE: Science & 9/11 [& Truthiness Posted by: Squarehead
» RE: Science & 9/11 Posted by: Roverton
As if
Posted by: LMNOP on Sep 4, 2007 5:40 AM   
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"Any military which can claim -- as the Americans did two days ago -- that al-Qaida is on the run is not capable of carrying out anything on the scale of 9/11"

This argument betrays this writer as either asleep or an administration apologist. It's time to stop talking about the neocons as incompetent and recognize them as highly competent enemies of the United States. It is my opinion, supported by Occam's razor, that the neocons are deliberately dismantling America. Given the inconsistencies and deficiencies of the official 911 report, you'd have to be a blathering idiot to believe that these proven shameless criminals of the highest order weren't involved. If they weren't (impossible), it would only be because they weren't invited to help.

The ones who need tin foil hats are the dreamers who still believe otherwise. I don't trust anyone who is ready to exclude the possibility that the neocons didn't orchestrate, enable and/or cover-up 911. On the faint, outside chance that I am wrong, I am still right not to exclude the possibility based on present information. And like I said, anybody who says otherwise is an incompetent judge of the situation or else an administration apologist.

Why is so much energy spent on trying to convince people like me that Bush et al. weren't complicit in 911? What difference does it make, anyway? It's not like we could despise or distrust the American government any more by revealing that they were behind 911. It's not like we don't already know that they are capable and willing to execute such plots - that they would if they thought that they could. And who is better situated to pull this off? A few dozen Arabs with a few million dollars, or the Republican Party?

There is no harm in mistakenly blaming the administration for 911. It changes our opinion of them not one iota. There is danger, however, in believing that they are incapable of such a thing.

You've got to love the argument against the neocons complicity being that they are not competent enough to pull it off, not that they would never think of committing such an egregious crime. That part isn't even argued. Why? They're known liars, thieves and killers. Of course they would. And surely did.

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I need more proof
Posted by: Axiom69 on Sep 4, 2007 5:48 AM   
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I just find it hard to beleive that a government that can't keep the most basic of secrets could pull something like this off. The logistics and planning involved would be enormous not to mention the number of people that would have to be "in on it". Somebody would have talked.

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» "Incompetence" by design Posted by: LeftWright
What happened to the witnesses
Posted by: Nedtheredhead on Sep 4, 2007 5:55 AM   
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Within days of the four planes attacking, I watched and read with acute interest what the witnesses to each of the crashes had to say. With the exception of the Twin Towers there didn't seem to be any. No one came forward to claim they saw a plane crashing into the Pentagon. The only video surveillance of that crash curiously only shows the explosion, not the plane actually crashing. What happened to the witnesses driving past in cars, surely they would have seen a jet flying in low on its apporach to the building. And what happened to witnesses of the crash of the fourth plane.
It is no wonder conspiracy theories sprouted like mushrooms after a summer rain, when you consider the huge amount of unanswered questions...couples with America's notorious history of conspiring to achieve a particular end.

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» RE: What happened to the witnesses Posted by: Nedtheredhead
when a plane crashes
Posted by: warrior woman on Sep 4, 2007 6:13 AM   
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When a plane crashes, the plane remnants are generally recovered, reassembled in a hangar or other building and studied for a long time to determine the result of the crash. Why didn't this happen for each of the sites that were hit on 9/11? Just curious. Not a conspiracy theorist, just curious.

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» RE: when a plane crashes Posted by: bcain
» The Tapes Were Not "Erased" Posted by: gary_7vn
Good Luck..
Posted by: paschn on Sep 4, 2007 6:21 AM   
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Convincing the US sheeple of anything that might sully their precious flag and the administration that defiles it. They simply
1) don't have the stomach for going against what they believe is the popular belief that the U.S. is a benevolent sweet little empire that is incapable of anything underhanded like slaughter, murder, theft, rape, invading tiny countries.

2) don't have the collective spine to DO anything about it IF you can convince them that their "knee walking" leaders are whores for Israel and the corporations. Can you imagine another society, ( say the Venezuelans that spoiled Bush's murder attempt against Chavez for the oil barons ), allowing Israel to go un-punished for almost 40 years after attacking and murdering members of their military? a fact which Doughy McCain's papa helped hide.

educating the "fodder" lovingly called "our boys" to use the gray matter in their skulls for something besides coming up with their next gang rape or slaughter of innocent civilians who, IF they are attacking "our boys" are doing nothing more than repelling Bush's invading lackeys.

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A clue for you Mr. Fiske
Posted by: leafsong1 on Sep 4, 2007 6:23 AM   
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Fiske's main argument against the conspiracy theories is rather clueless for someone so many people turn to for clues. Taken as a whole, the 9/11/Iraq plot is brilliant and has succeded brilliantly. The very fact that the very wise Mr. Fiske has been taken in by the "oops" act demonstrates how effective it has been. Where Fiske seems to lose track of reality is where he assumes that the US government has the slightest concern for the welfare of the US. Sure, if they invaded Iraq for us, it was a mistake, but they don't work for us; they work for the plutocracy. Can Fiske imagine any other course of action that would have shoveled as much wealth into the pockets of rich cronies from the US treasury without overt criminality? Apparently Fiske has spent so much time studying the dizzying complexity of ME religious and political strife that he has forgotten that the US government is all about MONEY.

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The best case against conspiracy.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Sep 4, 2007 6:25 AM   
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I would think in a case like the twin towers, the temperature at which steel bends (under the combination of temperature and pressure) would be more important than the temperature at which it melts. Because when the steel beams began to deform under the incredible loads imposed by the top half of the building, then the concrete would crack and fail. At this point, the beams would begin to snap. Once the single superheated floor collapsed, enough kinetic energy would be released to break through the rest of the floors like dominoes.

I believe, though, that the strongest case against a conspiracy in the white house comes from President Bush's behavior when he was told "America is under attack." If he had known it was coming, why would he then act like an idiot, and risk impeachment for gross dereliction of duty? Anyone who has watched the full agonizing seven minutes of the "My little goat" video knows what I am talking about.

Bush had, from the moment he assumed office, pushed for billions of dollars to revive Reagan's Strategic Missile Defense Initiative , "Star Wars." It stands to reason that he believed there was a threat, doesn't it? Then why in the world did he not spend a few moments considering, "What would be my immediate duties if America was attacked by intercontinental missiles?" As a matter of fact, he must have either refused or slept through at least one briefing on that very subject.

"Oh", some might say, "but it wasn't intercontinental missiles, it was airplanes." Give me a break.

Since Dwight Eisenhower, every president has faced the threat of a sudden attack from the air. It is an awesome responsibility, but initial response required of the President is simple - to make himself available. Because someone has to be there to give the authorizations to do terrible things, such as fire nuclear missiles at Russia, or shoot down civilian airliners. (The latter order was given on 9/11, illegally, by Dick Cheney because the President was AWOL.)

Bush should have been impeached, convicted and removed from office, because he failed to prepare for the single most awesome responsibility of the Presidency, even though he had gone to great efforts to highlight his own concern for that eventuality.

Don't forget that hundreds of men and women lost their lives doing their duty on 9/11, while Bush ignored his, simple as it was.

Even if Bush was left out of the conspiracy, anyone who knew the limits of his capabilities would surely have set up a situation in which he would at least appear to act responsibly.

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» Excellent point! Posted by: KeepsonTickn
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WHY CERTAIN THINGS ARE SEALED FOR SO MANY YEARS
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Sep 4, 2007 6:44 AM   
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This is done so that creeps like those of the evil bush regime will be dead(not soon enough) before the truth can be revealed.
If all of the truths about this cartel of haters of the U S constitution were to be revealed now, our country would truly explode.

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