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On July 4, Put Away the Flags

By Howard Zinn, Progressive Media Project. Posted July 4, 2007.


Is not nationalism -- that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary so fierce it engenders mass murder -- one of the great evils of our time?

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On this July 4, we would do well to renounce nationalism and all its symbols: its flags, its pledges of allegiance, its anthems, its insistence in song that God must single out America to be blessed.

Is not nationalism -- that devotion to a flag, an anthem, a boundary so fierce it engenders mass murder -- one of the great evils of our time, along with racism, along with religious hatred?

These ways of thinking -- cultivated, nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on -- have been useful to those in power, and deadly for those out of power.

National spirit can be benign in a country that is small and lacking both in military power and a hunger for expansion (Switzerland, Norway, Costa Rica and many more). But in a nation like ours -- huge, possessing thousands of weapons of mass destruction -- what might have been harmless pride becomes an arrogant nationalism dangerous to others and to ourselves.

Our citizenry has been brought up to see our nation as different from others, an exception in the world, uniquely moral, expanding into other lands in order to bring civilization, liberty, democracy.

That self-deception started early.

When the first English settlers moved into Indian land in Massachusetts Bay and were resisted, the violence escalated into war with the Pequot Indians. The killing of Indians was seen as approved by God, the taking of land as commanded by the Bible. The Puritans cited one of the Psalms, which says: "Ask of me, and I shall give thee, the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the Earth for thy possession."

When the English set fire to a Pequot village and massacred men, women and children, the Puritan theologian Cotton Mather said: "It was supposed that no less than 600 Pequot souls were brought down to hell that day."

On the eve of the Mexican War, an American journalist declared it our "Manifest Destiny to overspread the continent allotted by Providence." After the invasion of Mexico began, The New York Herald announced: "We believe it is a part of our destiny to civilize that beautiful country."

It was always supposedly for benign purposes that our country went to war.

We invaded Cuba in 1898 to liberate the Cubans, and went to war in the Philippines shortly after, as President McKinley put it, "to civilize and Christianize" the Filipino people.

As our armies were committing massacres in the Philippines (at least 600,000 Filipinos died in a few years of conflict), Elihu Root, our secretary of war, was saying: "The American soldier is different from all other soldiers of all other countries since the war began. He is the advance guard of liberty and justice, of law and order, and of peace and happiness."

We see in Iraq that our soldiers are not different. They have, perhaps against their better nature, killed thousands of Iraq civilians. And some soldiers have shown themselves capable of brutality, of torture.

Yet they are victims, too, of our government's lies.

How many times have we heard President Bush tell the troops that if they die, if they return without arms or legs, or blinded, it is for "liberty," for "democracy"?

One of the effects of nationalist thinking is a loss of a sense of proportion. The killing of 2,300 people at Pearl Harbor becomes the justification for killing 240,000 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The killing of 3,000 people on Sept. 11 becomes the justification for killing tens of thousands of people in Afghanistan and Iraq.

And nationalism is given a special virulence when it is said to be blessed by Providence. Today we have a president, invading two countries in four years, who announced on the campaign trail in 2004 that God speaks through him.

We need to refute the idea that our nation is different from, morally superior to, the other imperial powers of world history.

We need to assert our allegiance to the human race, and not to any one nation.

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Howard Zinn, a World War II bombardier, is the author of the best- selling "A People's History of the United States" (Perennial Classics, 2003, latest edition). This piece was distributed by the Progressive Media Project.

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Finally! Someone who sees it like it really is! Thank-you!
Posted by: MindyB on Jul 4, 2007 1:12 AM   
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I am so grateful to the author writing such an insightful and reality based article, although knowing those who scream to be "patriotic Americans" I am sure this blog will be filled with stupid and childish comments such as "well if you don't like it here leave".
However, for those of you who still have the ability to think independently and see all of reality will also see the value of this article.
It is a sad commentary on a country who purports to be "the very best in the world", yet one of the biggest flaws our country has had and which still contributes to the horrible domestic and international messes we are in now is the fact that we never ever take responsibility for our actions that cause negative effects on its citizens and other countries. We never take responsibility for the huge mistakes we have made in our domestic and especially international decisions and actions. We never take responsibility for ruining the lives of people in other countries, we never take reaponsibility for imposing our greed, will and stupid agendas on other sovereign countries under the false pretense of promotinc peace and democracy. We are the the evil that is destroying the world.
Instead most citizens have been trained to wear their meaningless "patriotism" on their sleeves, to sing the false praises of this country, and to follow whoever is in power like blind sheep. Certainly a contradiction when you think America as "the most powerful and intelligent" country in the world, yet its citizens have no ability to engage in critical thinking, to think independently, to form opinions that may be different than those of our supposed leaders. The so called "great free nation" has created a mass of citizens who chant our leaders' lies, such as "we are fighting to protect your freedoms"--what freedoms exactly were at risk??, the citizens of this country blindly chant the ignorant rhetoric of our contry enjoying more "freedoms" than anywhere else in the world--that is laughable!, the citizens of this country lost their ability to think independently, to think freely without being heavily influence by the false rhetoric of "patriotism"
Having been in other countries, I am convinced that citizens of this country have absolutely no idea what patriotism or freedom really means, primarily because the citizens of this country have been blinded by deceipt and lies for generations, and hence most don't even know an accurate account of American history--the true history, not the one created by those in power.
When the US Congress, the oversight branch and the "checks and balances" branch looses totaly power to enforce the US constitution, to stop and crazed maniac of a president and his cronies, or to stop the slaughter of thousands of young brave Americans and innocent citizens of the countries we invade, we are not living in a free country, we are living in a facist country disguised as a democracy. When people are afraid to speak their opposition to government policies for fear of serious reprisals and/or being linched by the mob of empty patriotics, when people who go out on the streets to protest unfair policies and actions by our government get beatten, shot at, and put in prison as "enemy combatants" these people, these citizens of the United States are NOT LIVING in a FREE COUNTRY.

It's time for the citizens of this country to wake up, open your eyes and stand up against our own powers who deceive us, destroy our constitution, make a disaster of the world, and places us at immense risk of harm by our own stupid actions. If we don't wake up soon, this country will self-destruct, it will simply implode. No need to worry about the foreign "boogy man" attacking us or taking over, there will be nothing left when our dictators are done.

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» past the end of their noses Posted by: monkopotamus
» albrektnazi hates US Constitution Posted by: monkopotamus
» Albrecht the Kraut Pontificates! Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» Well said! Posted by: Pat Kittle
» RIGHT ON MINDY!!!! Posted by: mountainmama
4.5
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 4, 2007 1:30 AM   
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Getting the US to practice humility and engage in a little self-reflection would be like getting Donald Trump to do it.

Even so, the article tells it like it is, and keeps it short and simple. I like the point about our sense of proportion.

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» RE: What a load of crap!!! Posted by: Nedtheredhead
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Happy 4th of July
Posted by: White middleclass male on Jul 4, 2007 1:55 AM   
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from one man that is proud to be an American.

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» RE: It take a lot of denial to still be proud. Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» Smug Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: Happy 4th of July Posted by: mountainmama
» I don't believe in sky monsters Posted by: White middleclass male
» Well said Posted by: ateo
» Theological whimsies Posted by: pdxstudent
» USA, USA, USA Posted by: ateo
» RE: USA, USA, USA Posted by: Nedtheredhead
» Richest nation on earth? Posted by: justaguy
» No cake for you Posted by: Conservasaurus
Burn the flag
Posted by: kwalla on Jul 4, 2007 3:11 AM   
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Burn the flag. Rip it up.

Yee-haw!!!!!!!!! Good Buddy!

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» RE: Burn the flag Posted by: peacefullaim
Symbolism To Disenfranchise Or Empower a People
Posted by: MAT2 on Jul 4, 2007 3:18 AM   
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America has always been a nation of idealized virtues yet to be realized. I think that NOW is as great time to reclaim the symbolism of the American Flagt and use it to empower, "We The People". It's time for the masses to get informed and active in defining and creating the new reality of what they want and don't want for their America.

The symbolism of the American flag has been hijacked throughout history by aggressive individuals and groups that have found it to be a handy motivational tool in rationalizing their extremist and unjust agendas under the guise of patriotism.

The thirteen stripes are supposed to symbolize the original colonies and the 50 stars, states rights. In effect, the flag has been and is being desecrated on a regular basis all over the world as it has come to represent repression, aggression, greed, colonialism, danger, etc.

Let's not run away from the issue or symbolism but instead face it head on with great pride, dignity, compassion and persistence.

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DON'T LET THE NEO'S HAVE OUR FLAG TOO!
Posted by: Roverton on Jul 4, 2007 3:29 AM   
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It doesn't belong to them alone!

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» On the subject of flag waving. Posted by: Nedtheredhead
Zinn, could you tell that to millions of illegals wrapping themselves in the flag?
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Jul 4, 2007 3:32 AM   
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Zinn's plea here makes me laugh.

Last year when the open-borders loonies were having their May Day march here in Santa Cruz, I was the only counter-demonstrator (see last 2 paragraphs).

Someone handed me an American flag. I declined, because too many scoundrels wrap themselves in the flag -- and of course, the illegals prove that big time!

They started out waving Mexican flags, but it soon became obvious that was a big PR mistake. So their leaders provided them with new American flags. And presto, next thing you know, they're waving American flags for their photo-ops!

Of course, their attitude didn't change one iota -- it was pure BS, and most everyone saw through it.

One anarchist that I know of renounces all flags, but she, too, was waving the flag!

What a farce!

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» And the 6 billion that aren't. Posted by: justaguy
in japan...
Posted by: lordzombie on Jul 4, 2007 3:36 AM   
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yeah, im an american living abroad in japan, I must say the japanese have it right, not that they dont have problems, but the only ones waving the japanese flag are those that wish for a return to its agressive imperialist past, and when they do, neither the media or the public gives much notice. the only ones wrapping themselves in the rising sun are deemed more or less crazy zealots. ask the average japanese how they feel about their country, and they will tell you they love it.

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» RE: in japan... Posted by: ALANHESTER
» Actually, you're wrong Posted by: ateo
» RE: Actually, you're wrong Posted by: Gisele
» RE: Actually, you're wrong Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: stay out of Japan baby doll Posted by: Nedtheredhead
Declaration of Independence
Posted by: HighburyJD on Jul 4, 2007 3:41 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHdSovhzcA

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» RE: Declaration of Independence Posted by: peacefullaim
I disagree.
Posted by: Andypendence on Jul 4, 2007 4:57 AM   
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Though Howard Zinn is personally a hero of mine, I disagree with much of what this article implies. 2 main reasons.

(1.)He seems to confuse patriotism with nationalism, which are not always the same concepts.
(2.)The United States, as "the only nation in the world that is founded on a creed" *is* superior. Or, at least, the idea of it is. Because it's the quintessential melting pot mongrel nation of many different ethnic, cultural, religious, political, philosophical and cultural views , it's superior. Because of its basis on civil liberties(well, at least until this last administration), it's superior. Not to say that this superiority implies that we get to do whatever we want in the rest of the world, or that we are a/the perfect nation, but it does make me object to the idea that our country, its history, its symbols and what it could and should be should not be celebrated, as Mr. Zinn implies. The very independence that he proposes we not celebrate is the very independence that allows and encourages dissenting outsider voices like him to be heard. And that's worth celebrating.

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» RE: I disagree. Posted by: moflard
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: Andypendence
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: moflard
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: Andypendence
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: moflard
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: Andypendence
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» RE: I disagree. Posted by: Andypendence
» Hey we agree! :-D Posted by: moflard
» RE: Hey we agree! :-D Posted by: Andypendence
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: perri6
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: Andypendence
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: perri6
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: Andypendence
» RE: I disagree. Posted by: perri6
I'd Like to Believe that Most Americans Would Agree With This Article...
Posted by: phshafe on Jul 4, 2007 5:16 AM   
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...but I'm not sure that the evidence supports this. I'm concerned that there are millions of miniature versions of Dick Cheney in our country, who truly believe that their suburban home, 2 cars in the driveway, and frequent trips to shopping malls to buy clothes made by concentration camp labor in east Asia, is what life is all about, and is, in fact, an entitlement. So as long as they get these things, they will support our government, or at least not protest much. There is a reason that governments co-opt people in this way -- because it works. Ultimately, when a society sacrifices honor for material gain, such as when it wages pre-emptive wars to get oil to sustain a standard of living, it will end up with neither honor nor standard of living. But those wheels of justice take a long time to turn, and a lot of damage to the innocent is done in the meantime.

As a veteran of the anti-war marches in the Bay Area, which were heavily subscribed, prior to the Iraq invasion, I can testify that carrying signs seems to have done little good. Voting with our dollars, if enough people do it, might effect more of a positive change. Here in Seattle, there are a growing number of us who have rearranged our lives to exit the car-dependence loop (by moving near work and using busses) and exit the clothes-dependence loop (by learning to make our own and not buying from the concentration camp factories sponsored in Asia by all the big U.S. clothing names). Those who cry the blues about the direction America has taken might consider moves like this. Otherwise their cries are undermined by their actions as they drive their SUV's from their oversized suburban homes to the mall to buy name brand clothing for their families.

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My flag has no stars or stripes
Posted by: LMNOP on Jul 4, 2007 5:19 AM   
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My flag is solid blood red (no white stripes) with a dark blue field (no stars). The stars, which represent light, are replaced by darkness. The white stripes are blood-drenched.

It's starless field represents the benighting of American minds by government propaganda with lies of freedom, equality, democracy and the rule of law.

It's blood-drenched solid red field represents its foreign policy: endless wars.

You celebrate that. I can't.

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» RE: My flag has no stars or stripes Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Liberals on the move -backwards! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Thanks ssegallmd Posted by: Ellie1
Libby's Pardon: America's Flag in Disgrace
Posted by: cognitorex on Jul 4, 2007 5:36 AM   
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Libby's Pardon: America's Flag in Disgrace
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Dick Cheney and George Bush are a disgrace to our country. They are skillful liars as are all psychopaths. In fact lack of concern for community or democratic values as in putting oneself above the law combined with habitual lying defines psychopathy. It defines Cheney and Bush.
I personally don't think Scooter is a psychopath on the order of Cheney and Bush. I believe he lived in an environment where lying and duplicity were practiced daily on the most egregious levels. Living in this environment day in and day out, he had little practical knowledge or experience that there could or might be even one possible iota of repercussion for bold faced lying. Lacking the snakelike skills of a Cheney or Bush he blew it.
That Scooter, the person, should not have to spend years in prison strikes a sympathetic chord with me.
That Scooter, the representative of an administration that adheres to no moral system in the pursuit of power and economic gain, should avoid justice makes me vomit.
I think we should fly all American flags at half staff until these mendacious psychopaths are escorted out of the White House, one way or the other. Better yet perhaps, would be to visit or demonstrate in D.C. and simply leave flags at the White House gates and the Supreme Court building. This, turning in of the flags, will represent that the Red, White and Blue is used only for propaganda by Bush, Cheney and the neocon party and it no longer represents American values. It has been disgraced.
Craig Johnson

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» God Belss America! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: God Belss America! Posted by: ALANHESTER
Looking forward
Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle on Jul 4, 2007 5:43 AM   
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to the day when America's independence will again be worthy of celebrating, may I recommend the most kick-ass "Stars and Stripes Forever" ever: Frederick Fennell and the Cleveland Winds, Stars & Stripes: Fanfares, Marches & Wind Band Spectaculars on Telarc.

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» But that's got VIOLINS in it. Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle
» Excellent! Posted by: Beck
I Won't Be Putting Away the Flag
Posted by: patti_s on Jul 4, 2007 6:02 AM   
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I am as liberal as most of the people in this country. On top of that, I hate this so-called war on terrorism which should be called the war to create terrorists. However I don't hate my country just because I hate what this administration has done and continues to do.

As far as I am concerned blaming the country for the actions of corrupt leaders is rather disingenuous. I don't want to live anywhere else and even in times when I don't agree with what is going on, I don't blame it on the symbol of what we are supposed to be. I blame it on the people who trample on and pervert that symbol. I may be ashamed of things the leaders of America have done, but I am not ashamed of being an American.

I am very grateful for the fact that I do live here. No, things are not perfect here, but in what country are they perfect? What I don't forget is the fact that many good people died trying to make the dream a reality. The only thing that can keep us from that reality is our own apathy. If we put up with lousy government, the flag didn't do it, nor is it responsible for our lack of will to make this country what it can be. The flag ought to be a rallying point, not an object of disgust. patti

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» And I won't be flying it. Posted by: LMNOP
Sorry Mr. Zinn,
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jul 4, 2007 6:15 AM   
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but my flag is flying high today. Patriotism is not the same thing as nationalism. I'm not letting the filthy neo-cons or the vile Democrat enablers claim the flag for theirs alone.

P.S. - If any of the statists/leftists on this site haven't read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States, I suggest you do so. Its one of the best history books I've ever read.

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» RE: Sorry Mr. Zinn, Posted by: ALANHESTER
» Hope the flag wasn't made in China Posted by: eddie torres
» Agreed Posted by: YogiBear
Allegiance to what?
Posted by: elderwoman.org on Jul 4, 2007 6:30 AM   
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We need to assert our allegiance to the human race, and not to any one nation.
No, not to the human race. Sure, that's better than nationalism, but it is still woefully anthropocentric. I believe we need to assert our allegiance to Planet Earth, out of whose body we are created and to whose body we return.
We need to assert our allegiance, not merely to our own kind but to all the millions of entities, from mountains to microbes, with whom we humans co-exist.
We need to assert our allegiance not to nations with their artificial boundaries but to the bioregions in which we live, to the ecosystems which support us and to the communities (not just of humans but of all life forms) in which we find ourselves.
We need to assert our allegiance to the local economies which need our effort, our money and our loyalty in order to provide a sustainable alternative when the oil runs out and the global economy collapses. That means pledging allegiance to local, independent businesses instead of supermarkets, pledging to live simply and caring for the soil that feeds us all.
Allegiance to a piece of colored fabric, no matter what it stands for, is really daft. Allegiance to the health of the soil, of rivers, of oceans and forests and fields, and a willingness to die for the rights of earthworms to live and thrive free from pesticides makes a lot more sense to me than saluting some stupid flag (especially when all the lofty concepts it was supposed to stand for have long since disappeared down the toilet).

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» RE: Allegiance to what? Posted by: SekhmetsatRa
» Stars and Bars...Right? Posted by: ekipnrut
» RE: Stars and Bars...Right? Posted by: YogiBear
not the Al Gores, Kennedies,Oprah Winfreys
Posted by: richholland on Jul 4, 2007 6:33 AM   
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Remember all the hardworking honest people who came to America because they believed in honesty and freedom.
And realise that the capitalistic making profits out of everything distructs society, ruins the world, cause stretch and fat people.
Why Mr.Zinn is not talking about the Jewish superiorty feelings, that are a hindrance to the peace in Palestina.???

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» RE: Alternet does seem to attract Posted by: richholland
On My Street
Posted by: pcushniesr on Jul 4, 2007 6:51 AM   
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After reading Howard Zinn's article and many of the comments (always as interesting and often more insightful than the articles themselves) I stepped out my front door and looked up the street. It's a dead-end street comprised of lower middle-class working people (at least I _hope_ they're working!) and I was curious to see how many flags were on display on this Fourth of July morning. I counted three, which puts them in a definite minority. I'll wager that a walk around the neighborhood would reveal a continuing minority. Maybe it's my imagination, but it seems that Fourth of July celebrations in general have diminished around here. Usually, beginning this past weekend, I would only have to step outside after dark to witness the night go up in a blaze of local and city-wide fireworks displays, the air filled with the smell of burned powder and the light under the streetlamps illuminating drifting clouds of blue smoke. One could easily imagine a battle going on around. But not now. Not on this Fourth. The night is much more subdued. Celebration seems almost disrespectful. What an ugly place we have arrived at.

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» RE: On My Street Posted by: ALANHESTER
why........
Posted by: ALANHESTER on Jul 4, 2007 7:09 AM   
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should anyone who is not a white , middle-class male wave the flag proudly? It is obvouos that that the US wants no one but White males. Those who came from oppression may say that it is better here, but that does not deter from the fact that you are not wanted here.why honor something that hates you?

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» RE: why........ Posted by: dylansstp
» RE: why........ Posted by: ALANHESTER
Keeping My Flag
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