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The Secrets of the Christian Right's Recruiting Tactics

By Chris Hedges, Truthdig. Posted April 24, 2007.


A look at the cult-like recruiting tactics of the Christian right, including the manipulative and highly successful practice of "love bombing."

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There is a false, but effective, fiction that one has to be born again to be a Christian. The Christian right refuses to acknowledge the worth of anyone's religious experience unless -- in the words of the tired and opaque cliché -- one has accepted "Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior."

The meltdown, often skillfully manipulated by preachers and teams of evangelists, is one of the most pernicious tools of the movement. Through conversion one surrenders to a higher authority. And the higher authority, rather than God, is the preacher who steps in to take over your life. Being born again, and the process it entails, is more often about submission and the surrender of moral responsibility than genuine belief.

I attended a five-day seminar at Coral Ridge in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., where I was taught, often by D. James Kennedy, the techniques of conversion. The callousness of these techniques -- targeting the vulnerable, building false friendships with the lonely or troubled, promising to relieve people of the most fundamental dreads of human existence from the fear of mortality to the numbing pain of grief -- gave to the process an awful cruelty and dishonesty. I attended the seminar as part of the research for my book "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America." Kennedy openly called converts "recruits" and spoke about them joining a new political force sweeping across the country to reshape and reform America into a Christian state.

"I would always go in first, introduce myself, Jim Kennedy," he told us. "I'm checking the lay of the land and I will look around the living room and see if there's something there that I can comment about. Frequently, there will be a large picture somewhere and where did they put it, this picture ... why would they put it over the fireplace? Significant."

"In Fort Lauderdale you don't find too many fireplaces," he added, smiling, "but there's some kind of central focus. Maybe ... golf trophies ... I'm over here looking at these golf trophies ... painting ... I say... beautiful painting, did you paint that? The first rule about looking at trophies, don't touch them ... did you win all those trophies? So we have a little conversation about golf, but I know enough about golf to have this conversation ... now what have I done? I'm making a friend."

"Compliment them on whatever you can," Kennedy said, "discuss what they do, you're going to find out what are their hobbies, maybe right there in the living room. Then you're going to ask them about what they do, where they're from, how long they've been there ... something to discuss with them ... in doing this, you have made a friend."

We are told to "emphasize the positive" and "identify with your prospect." We are encouraged in the green "Evangelism Explosion" instruction manual to use sentences such as "It is wonderful to know when I lay my head on my pillow tonight that if I do not awaken in bed in the morning, I will awaken in paradise with God." We are told to paint graphic pictures of personal tragedy that God has helped solve, such as: "I had a Christian son killed in Vietnam, yet my heart is filled with peace because I know he has eternal life. Even though he was killed by an enemy mortar, he has a home now in heaven, and one day we'll be reunited there." We are instructed to pepper our testimonies with words like love, peace, faithfulness, forgiveness, hope, purpose and obedience and remember to talk about how we have found, in our own conversion, "courage in the face of death."

Kennedy warns us not to carry a large Bible, but to keep a small one hidden in our pocket, saying "don't show your gun until you're ready to shoot it."

The conversion, at first, is euphoric. It is about new, loving friends, about the conquering of human anxieties, fears and addictions, about attainment through God of wealth, power, success and happiness. For those who have known personal and economic despair, it feels like a new life, a new beginning. The new church friends repeatedly call them, invite them to dinner, listen to their troubles and answer their questions. Kennedy told us that we must keep in touch in the days after conversion. He encouraged us to keep detailed files on those we proselytize. We must be sure the converts are never left standing alone at church. We must care when no one else seems to care. The converts are assigned a "discipler" or prayer partner, a new friend, who is wiser than they are in the ways of the Lord and able to instruct them in their new life.


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Chris Hedges, who graduated from seminary at Harvard Divinity School, is the author of "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America." He is a senior fellow at The Nation Institue and a Lannan Literary Fellow.

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Faux Faith
Posted by: NoPCZone on Apr 24, 2007 12:53 AM   
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I reject these fear-mongers, blind followers and pimps for repression that claim to represent what was intended to set people free from hate and fear. They have distorted the Gospel to their purposes and bias--the truth be damned.

It seems strange to me that those claiming to represent and follow Jesus forget or ignore the teaching that God is no respecter of persons (rules out race, ethnic and sexual bias), that we are to live in and seek peace, that we are to love and be merciful to even those who do not reciprocate, that we are to be forgiving and not judgmental and that every person is our brother or our sister. They do, however, love to twist and distort the Bible for their own repressed and repressive political and social agenda.

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Thomas Merton 1915-1968
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 24, 2007 1:03 AM   
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"We are called to create a better world. But we are first called to a more immediate and exalted task: that is of creating our own lives".
Thomas Merton

If all of us who profess to be "Christian" would only latch on to the Christianity of Thomas Merton, we would be more in tune to the teachings of Jesus Christ. He was a Trappist Monk who for twenty-seven years, between 1941 and 1968, rarely stepped outside the rural monastery in which he lived. So what could such a person possibly teach us about ourselves? As it tuns out, a whole lot. From the opening paragraph of his autobiography:

"On the last day of January 1915, under the sign of the Water Bearer, in the year of a great war and down in the shadow of some French mountains on the boarders of Spain, I came into the world. Free by nature, in the image of God, I was nevertheless the prisoner of my own violence and my own selfishness, in the image of the world into which I was born. That world was the picture of hell, full of men like myself, loving God and yet hating Him; born to love him, living instead in fear and hopeless and self-contradictory hungers".

In 1948, he was encouraged by the Abbot of the monastery he lived in, Our Lady of Gesthemanie outside Louisville, Kentucky to write his memoirs. Incredibly, the resulting effort, The Seven Storey Mountain, turned out to be one of the best selling books of the year. As Merton had been inspired by the events of the pre-war world to enter a life of contemplation, so were thousands of people of all faiths inspired by the events of the post-war world to question the very tenets of the so-called "American Century". Tom Merton not only planted the seeds that would eventually bear the fruit of what would evolve into the anti-war movement, re spoke out against racism at a time when most people didn't even know the meaning of the word.

He was vehemently anti-war even in times of relative peace:

"A letter arrives in the mail stamped with the slogan, 'The US ARMY: Key To Peace'. No 'great' nation has the key to anything but war. Power has nothing to do with peace. The more men build up military power, the more they violate peace and destroy it."

There is no question that in the year 2007, nearly forty years after his untimely death, Thomas Merton still matters. He reaches out to us across the decades, an articulate and passionate advocate for Peace and Love and Silence It was his prayerful belief that only by obliterating the noise of our lives - be it the electronic noise of our immediate surroundings or the noise of our minds - could we achieve a pure communion with God.

It would be nice if he were still here. Come to think of it, he is!

Pray for Peace.
Meditate for Peace.
Shout for Peace.
Be Silent for Peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY.
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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People are not forced to believe
Posted by: White middleclass male on Apr 24, 2007 1:12 AM   
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If you want to believe in the magic bronze age sky god go ahead. No one is kicking in your door to force it on you in America (not the case for many muslim countries).

If you are stupid enough to be tricked into following some one else's rule, you get what you deserve. Tithe on the way out so the preacher/imam can buy a new Benz.

I want to read an article an Alternet that attacks islam the same way it does christainity. After all christains tell you, you are going to hell. muslims try to send you there.

(christain, muslim, islam, preacher, imam and christainity were left in lowercase intentionally to show disrespect to there beliefs in thaumaturgy)

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» You haven't been paying attention Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
» RE: You haven't been thinking Posted by: MaxDelaney
I was "love bombed"
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Apr 24, 2007 2:10 AM   
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Visited a Children of God commune when hitching around the country. Was hitching with a girl. They immediately tried to separate us while love bombing us. Everybody had these smiles on their faces - but there was a hard edge beneath it. The "vibe" was really strong and in ways both subtle and not it was made clear that to stay for any length of time was to submit to their control. Scared hell out of me. I didn't think I was in any less danger than the time I wound up in a very small apartment surrounded by very large Hell's Angels. In both cases I made the quickest exit I could and breathed a huge sigh of relief when I was safely gone.

A previous commenter remarked that this was unfair persecution of Christians. Bullshit! Unless you are acknowledging that hardcore brainwashing/mind control is inherent to Christianity (an argument that could be made but the indoctrination of most sects is more subtle) this can't be construed as an attack on Christianity, but a technique of mind control. Similar techniques are used to create fanatics of all stripes - as the author pointed out.

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Dorothy Day and The Catholic Worker
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 24, 2007 2:15 AM   
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"The impulse to stand up against the state and go to jail, rather than serve, is an instinct for penance; To take on some of the suffering ot the world - to share in it".

Dorothy Day
February 1969

Dorothy Day was another person who was the personification of the word, "Christian". In the 1920's she and her spiritual mentor, the French peasant and philosopher, Peter Maurin, founded a newspaper called The Catholic Worker andthat in her time she was viewed by many to be a dangerous radical. She was consided such a menace that J. Edgar Hoover even kept a file on her....(Charlie Chaplin, Eleanor Roosevelt, Martin Luther King and John Lennon also had files - that's pretty good company to be in!)

Dorothy Day not only dedicated her life to the poor and disposessed, she lived among them and humbly counted herself as one of them. The newspaper that she and Maurin co-founded in 1929 was the on;y voice in its time for the downtrodden. It still survives to this day. Its price remains, as it has been since the day of its inception, a penny per copy.

In the early 1930's, in the midst of what we now call "the great depression" she opened up a free shelter for the homeless in New York City, the first of its kind. Name din the honor of the Blessed Mother, to whom she was so devoted, Mary House was a miracle of hope to a people who had previously viewed their situation as utterly hopeless. At a time when even "progessive" northern cities operated witin the framework of a Jim Crow mentality, there were absolutely no restrictions with respect to race or religion. The only requirement was that a person or family were in need of food or shelter. She also ran a soup kitchen that fed everyone who couldn't be housed due to lack of space. No one walked away from Mary House without, at the very least, a decent meal and a cup of coffee. Dorothy Day made a difference! Within a couple of years Mary Houses were opening up all over the United States.

They also founded Mary Farm in Newburgh, NY (fifteen miles from where I sit) that grew the crops that fed their beloved masses. It survives today as the Peter Maurin Farm, 41 Cemetery Road, Marlbourough, NY 12542. It is run by my friends, Tom and Monica Cornell, devoted friends of Dorothy who have dedicated thier lives to her memory and her mission.

Dorothy Day passed from this life on November 29, 1980 at the far-too-young age of 83. Our generationdesperately yearns for a person of her stature and saintliness. When one compares her to some of today's so-called "men of God" - the Jerry Fallwells and the Pat Robertsons - praying on national TV for tax relief for the richest two percent and calling for the assassination of ?Hugo Chavez, the duly elected leader of a sovereign nation - one wants to weep.

Jesus wept.

It's easy to speculate that the likes of Dorothy Day will never pass this way again - but we can hope can't we? Hope is all we have....and prayer.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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Real conversion
Posted by: reval on Apr 24, 2007 3:45 AM   
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For all those who advocate prayer as a means of solving any problem I highly recommend the following by Father Dawkins:

Get up off our knees, stop cringing before bogeymen and virtual fathers, face reality, and help science to do something constructive about human suffering.

Teach your children to say the prayer five time a day - while facing reality!

Rev. El Mundo
Pastor WVCSR

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» quick, find a stone mason Posted by: orwellwasn'tdreaming
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Happiness is a Warm Bible?!
Posted by: Allison on Apr 24, 2007 4:25 AM   
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Kennedy warns us not to carry a large Bible, but to keep a small one hidden in a pocket, saying "don't show your gun until you're ready to shoot it."

I know it's just a metaphor, but I'm reminded of the scene in Saved where Mandy Moore, angered that her friend is questioning evangelical Christianity, throws a Bible at her. The response - "THIS is not a weapon! You idiot!" - pretty much sums up my feelings about the EC's.

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Jesus H. Christ, Alternet, please give it a rest
Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Apr 24, 2007 4:33 AM   
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Do you really think we need one of these every other day? Ever hear of the expression "preaching to the converted"?

And as other posters demonstrate, contrary to the article's incoherent first paragraph, there are all kinds of Christians.

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» Unfortunately, affirmative Posted by: talkville
From the Christian Left
Posted by: wawa on Apr 24, 2007 4:38 AM   
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"Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me."-John Lennon, 1966


Jesus was NEVER a Christian.

The term was NOT even coined until the days of Paul, three decades after Christ walked the earth. Jesus was a social justice radical revolutionary PALESTINIAN devout Jewish Road Warrior who rose up/INTIFADA and challenged the job security of the Temple Authorities by teaching the people they did NOT need to pay the priests for ritual baths and sacrificing livestock for them to be OK with God; for God loved them just as they were; sinners, outcasts, diseased, cripples, widows, orphans, refugees, prisoners all enduring under OCCUPATION!

What got JC crucified was that he disturbed the status quo of the OCCUPYING forces by teaching such subversive concepts that God loved-even preferred the sinners, outcasts, diseased, cripples, widows, orphans, refugees, prisoners all enduring under OCCUPATION and that Cesar only had power, because God allowed it.


What Jesus REALLY said:

"I say to you, unless one is born of water* and spirit they cannot enter the kingdom of God…Do not be amazed that I have told you, 'You must be born from above.' The wind blows where it wills, and you can hear the wound it makes, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes; so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit." John 3:1-8

[*Water: Jesus' first miracle was at the wedding in Canna, when he changed the water into wine and kept the party going. ]





For every misunderstanding, every condemning thought, every negative vibration, every tear torn from a heart, every time one grabbed and wouldn’t let go, and they only did it because they did not know:

The Divine is within all creation and within all women and men.

And every tiny kindness you have ever done, every gentle word spoken, every time you held your tongue, every positive thought, every smile freely given, every helping hand that opens, helps bring in the kingdom:

And the kingdom comes from above, and it comes from within.

Imagine a kingdom of sisterhood of all creatures and all men.

eileen fleming
http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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stage 2 souls will fall for a cult
Posted by: wawa on Apr 24, 2007 4:45 AM   
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According to the 1987 classic, "The Different Drum: Community Making and Peace", Dr. Scott Peck defines the spiritual life as fluid and that one may pass back and forth repeatedly through any of the four-probably more-stages of the soul.

Stage one upon this journey -that begins from within-is essentially our infancy in the spiritual life. Like a wild child, a person in this stage reflects the inner chaotic and anti-social, unregenerate soul that is interested only in its own self-satisfaction and ego, much like the stereotypical spoiled child. Stage one people may claim to love others, but their behavior reflects they love their own pleasure, money, power, prestige, and security above any other. For stage one people, it really is all about them.

The good news is that the vast majority of humanity responds to that inner tug which is God, for lack of a better word. Katherine of Sienna wrote that within us all is the divine diamond. But life and all our baggage dulls the flame of our divine brilliance.

Stage two souls seek to "let their light shine" and will live virtuous lives and do many good works. They also can be judgmental of others, self-righteous, rigid of thought, cold of heart, legalistic concrete literal thinkers and may even be guilty of a lukewarm faith. They want to do right and they even may desire to love and please God, but have not yet fully opened up to the Inner Light, as Joan of Ark did when she challenged church and state and persisted that she had intuited God within -even while being fried.

Stage two souls have not yet been set fully free and prefer the security of a higher human authority than themselves for guidance. They submit to institutions, scripture, dogma, ritual, ministers, or gurus. This is the most appropriate stage for older children and most adults who live busy lives just trying to keep bread on the table and a dry roof above.

The difference between a stage one and stage two soul, is that a one wouldn't even notice a neighbor in need, while the two has awoken to the fact that we are to be our neighbor's keepers and they will respond to a friend-and like the good Samaritan, even to a total stranger in need.

Most theologians would agree that the opposite of faith is not disbelief: the opposite of faith is fear. Stage three souls have not just fearlessly awoken, they have evolved!

This evolution has led them to the realization of what Christ was really talking about in the Sermon of the Mount/The Beatitudes.

A stage three soul may well reject Christ as God, but often agree with the philosophy of Jesus...

Stage 3 and 4 souls can be read about April 21 WAWA Blog:
http://www.wearewideawake.org

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» RE: stage 2 souls will fall for a cult Posted by: MartianBachelor
Rosemary
Posted by: rosjoypa on Apr 24, 2007 4:50 AM   
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Most interesting in the study and comparison of religions is the role played by manipulative 'priests'. At least from the rise of the 'Vedic' (later Hindu) belief in the Indian sub-continent, the priestly classes have taken it upon themselves to advance their power over the 'common' people. In the case of the 'Vedic' priests, they eventually went too far and we can see the rise of Buddhism and Jainism as protest movements, led by wiser sages.

Religions gain accretions of untruths which become 'tradition', far removed from any original belief.

It was always so and will always be so. Unfortunately we humans are a gullible lot..

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Congratulations
Posted by: eric555 on Apr 24, 2007 4:54 AM   
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Congratulations, Hedges has ripped the lid of apostate Christianity.

APOSTATE.....Look it up.

This article does not expose anything new. Christians have been fighting people like D. James Kennedy for 2000 years. He and his kind will always be out there. There will allways be people with itchy ears wanting to hear what they have to say.

The sad part is that he give Hedges and others an excuse to label Christianity a cult and dismiss it. Dismissing Christianity because of people like Kennedy is like dismissing America because of people like George Bush.

Truth exists for those who are not afraid to look for it.

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Power and Control
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Apr 24, 2007 4:58 AM   
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"And the higher authority, rather than God, is the preacher who steps in to take over one's life."

Religious 'conversion', its application, its adherence, attendance of church, watching televangelists, giving your money away, etc., is at its simplest only about power and control. It's as basic as that.

All of the people at the top of the religious food chain are totally and completely aware of that fact. They apply those facts to their recruits. They are conscious of HOW to perform the conversion. They know what power and control is and how to manipulate the weak-minded. They use tried and true methods of conversion, immersion, passion, and focus. Everywhere you hear about these people you hear and see the exact same thing. Religion is about power and control and NOTHING else. It's not about good vs. evil because that is a religious dichotomy made up by religious people. Good vs. evil doesn't exist - it is a CONSTRUCT built out of the House of Dust called religion. Religion is not about 'going to Heaven' because Heaven is a construct built out of myths almost too old to properly identify. It is not about the End Times because the End Times is an abject lie designed to fool people into giving up EVERYTHING to the leaders. Everything such as your assets, the last shred of your sanity, and your objective reality.

As long as people insist on having an external locus of control they can be manipulated by so-called religious leaders. I recommend that people develop a good solid internal locus of control so that they can see precisely where the center of their reality lies. Until that happens en masse people will continue to cling to their misemotional states of awareness and push the rest of us closer to a nuclear wasteland - all because they are so wrapped up in their narcissistic emotional problems which they insist on foisting on the rest of us.

Can you say Prozac?

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» RE: Power and Control Posted by: Xynyx
Name one famous U.S. church leader who's NOT wealhy.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 24, 2007 5:23 AM   
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While you're trying to find one, I'll relate personal encounters with two notable religious leaders: Billy Graham and Jesse Jackson.

I met Rev. Graham in 1965 during my active duty USAF years. The first thing I noticed were his clothes. Billy gave new meaning to the phrase, "Dressed to the Nines," with a suit that clearly cost more than my monthly first lieutenant’s salary and shoes I couldn't afford, even as an Air Force captain.

Fifteen years later, while flying 727s for Continental Airlines, Jesse Jackson was a First Class passenger on my plane. During cruise while visiting the forward cabin, again I couldn’t help noticing a famous religious leader's attire. Despite being a well-paid airline pilot, I could tell Jesse's wardrobe was way beyond my clothing budget.

Here's my point. Religious organizations in the United States are run like corporations with leaders enjoying excellent salaries, generous benefits and well-funded retirement plans that most working Americans could not imagine much less ever enjoy. And like corporations, to attract customers (church members) to finance their upper-class life styles, they have adopted the necessary recruiting tactics. Simply put, for people who run religious organizations in the United States, "Praise the Lord" often means worshipping money, not God.

I will end my comment now and continue waiting for someone on this thread to name a living famous, non-wealthy religious leader.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption. AlterNet readers who object to my NON-PROFIT campaign to expose President Bush as a lying crook can email me through the website rather than comment here.

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Real love brings freedom
Posted by: Jim on Apr 24, 2007 5:28 AM   
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"Love one another," is one of Jesus' prime commandments. When it is real, it is beautiful and powerful. When it is phony, it is profoundly evil.

Christians usually look to 1 Corinthians 13 for a definition of love:
Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends.

So real love from Christians, is not just to potential converts, but forever. Literally.

Love does not insist on its own way. It gives the other freedom. Galatians 5.1: "For freedom Christ has set us free. Stand firm, therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery." This is not submitting to a "preacher who steps in to take over one's life."

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"It's a battle for your head, heart and ass."
Posted by: crystaldave on Apr 24, 2007 5:57 AM   
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I've just finished reading a free, on-line book called,
"The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer.
http://members.shaw.ca/perchaluk/drbob/chapter1.pdf
It's a long read but totally worth it. A thorough deconstruction of authoritarians, and more importantly, their followers. A must read for anyone who wants to know more about what we're up against...

Jesus, Save me from your followers!

Love and Light,

Crystal Dave (The Wizard of Wyrd)

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» Thanks for the Link! Posted by: aussidawg
I'm all amused at the Christians
Posted by: xenacat on Apr 24, 2007 6:10 AM   
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who post and say "oh, we aren't all like that..." While that maybe is true (Pontius Pilate "what is truth?") to some degree, it is a poor excuse for tolerating and essentially supporting the rabid element that has been in control of Christianity in America for the last couple of decades. Frankly, after a long period of time in which religious freedom has been actively suppressed by fantatic right wing Christians (the majority of active Christians), I welcome the attention to the seemy side of their techniques and lust for earthly power. The posts that state that Islam is worse are illogical at best - a religious theocracy is hell on earth regardless of whose fantacism fuels it. Most of us would really, really have freedom of belief- something that is being actively dismantled in this country even as we read these posts. So, keep the long overdue criticism of religious hypocrisy of the right coming. Perhaps we can finally stop cowering in front of them and start regaining our cherished seperation of church and state.

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» RE: I'm all amused at the Christians Posted by: VannaLaRoche
It's not only the Christians
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Apr 24, 2007 7:01 AM   
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Gee . . . and I thought those nice women and men from Ashaya were really interested in me while they were telling me what a singularly wonderful person I was, and how brilliant and sensitive--amazingly so; about how they could just feel the love that was deep within my soul [cue hugs]; and about how Ashaya saved them from lives of alcohol and drug abuse; and that it was amazingly simple to learn their ways and their secrets (but not free); and that giving life savings over to the organization so that some of their members could meditate in peace in a beautiful Canadian location was their one and only heart's desire and would lead to a better world someday [cue happy sighs].

But I never did hear from them again when I didn't agree to buy one of their seminars. Gee. I thought they liked me.

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Bakunin
Posted by: Xynyx on Apr 24, 2007 7:06 AM   
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"The idea of God implies the abdication of human reason and justice; it is the most decisive negation of human liberty, and necessarily ends in the enslavement of mankind, in theory and practice."

Mikhail Bakunin

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» RE: Bakunin Posted by: hellofriends
Just a thought
Posted by: peritonlogon on Apr 24, 2007 7:12 AM   
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Shouldn't "Mind control techniques and how to resist them" be a course that all high school children have to take. I know the cultists control the schools now, but one would think they'd be for it too since they would rather not have their customers converted to another service provider via effective mind control.

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» RE: Just a thought Posted by: VannaLaRoche
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» RE: Just a thought Posted by: Xynyx
Jeff in Wyoming
Posted by: jpetty on Apr 24, 2007 8:21 AM   
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This is nothing new. The purpose of religion has always been to control the masses. What better way to control people than to damn there souls to hell and promise eternal life if they except the desired dogma and hand over the cash. The Mormans have been employing these tactics for over 150 year, except they claim that you can not only have eternal life, but if your a real good Morman you can be a god yourself. One thing for sure, God has a sense of humor.

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