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2007 -- Another Year in Iraq; What Are We Going to Do?

By Don Hazen, AlterNet. Posted January 2, 2007.


A New Year, Saddam Hussein is dead, but nothing has changed in Iraq. It is time to take it up another notch to end the brutal occupation and bring the troops home.
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Two striking symbols marked the end of 2006 and our relationship to Iraq: Saddam Hussein, the former brutal dictator, was swiftly hung by a lynch mob -- a move that could create more civil war in the long run. Then, in the last day of 2006, the 3,000th American soldier died in action in Iraq -- a bitter reminder of the ongoing and pervasive violence that still grips the country.

There have been reports of Shites celebrating the death of Saddam in Iraq, and President Bush issued a prideful, if muted, statement saying, "Today, Saddam Hussein was executed after receiving a fair trial. ... Bringing Saddam Hussein to justice will not end the violence in Iraq, but it is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself, and be an ally in the War on Terror." Meanwhile there hasn't been much crowing among Republican politicians or pundits in the states, nor has there been much from the Democratic opposition. The quiet on the part of U.S. leaders on both sides is no surprise given that December marked the deadliest single month, since November of 2004, 25 months ago. Nobody was a big fan of Saddam.

In contrast to the United States, was Britain, where the anti-war wing of the Labour Party was quite vocal as AlterNet's Josh Holland underscores. Meanwhile Tony Blair remained silent, vacationing at Robin Gibb's (of the Bee Gee's) mansion in Florida.

What About Other Guilty Parties?

Providing a bigger picture, Robert Fisk, in his uniquely /www.alternet.org/waroniraq/46093/">no-holds-barred way, now that the Butcher of Baghdad is dead, asks the question: What about the other guilty men?

Writes Fisk: "... we have tortured, we have murdered, we have brutalised and killed the innocent -- we have even added our shame at Abu Ghraib to Saddam's shame at Abu Ghraib -- and yet we are supposed to forget these terrible crimes as we applaud the swinging corpse of the dictator we created."

Can We Get Out?

Despite all the time spent and blood spilled in Iraq, the steps for getting us out of the occupation remain fuzzy to many Americans. Equivocating leaders, misinformation and an inaccurate sense of the factors on the ground make it difficult for the wide range of those disgusted with the war to get behind a clear vision.

But this doesn't have to be the case. We each have a role in the anti-war effort to help debunk some of the fundamental misperceptions among the well-meaning -- those who think we are abandoning principle if we pull out of Iraq.

Juan Cole, the brilliant and persistent critic of U.S. policy in Iraq methodically demolishes the myths and misconceptions about the next steps in Iraq.

The biggest myth is that the United States can still win in Iraq. But as Cole explains, "[T]he establishment of a stable, pro-American, anti-Iranian government with an effective and even-handed army and police force in the near or even medium term ... is frankly ridiculous. The Iraqi 'government' is barely functioning. The parliament was not able to meet in December because it could not attain a quorum. Many key Iraqi politicians live most of the time in London. ... Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki does not control large swathes of the country and could give few orders that had any chance of being obeyed. The U.S. military cannot shore up this government, even with an extra division because the government is divided against itself."


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Cut Off Every Dime Checklist
Posted by: edith on Jan 2, 2007 12:44 AM   
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every member of Congress should be tracked by a committee of citizens from her/his state or district as to what the member did each week to extricate (or keep in) the US from Iraq. Voting for appropriatons in particular should be rated as a prowar vote. Do not be dissuaded or distracted by sleazy Dems mouthing platitudes about "redeployment" whicle they vote to support the troops [sic] and thus keep the Iraq civil war going.

It's nice Edwards wears jeans. That should not however be the rationale for support for his campaign. It's more important to track Hilary and Obama, who have influential votes, and the Speaker who has made lots of promises about Iraq but done little so far.

Bush will not back down. So Congress needs to push the pullout(that's right, not redeployment) button to the max. Now.

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» ALL BACK KUCINICH Posted by: poppop_schell
» De-fund NOW, or pay the price. Posted by: colinmeister
» Race War Posted by: citizenjoe
» RE: "extricate"?? Posted by: Edward George
correct
Posted by: rsaxto on Jan 2, 2007 12:55 AM   
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Hazen is pretty much correct on the major Iraq points he made. If the Bushies do not do a timetable for withdrawal very soon and thus end the Iraq war very soon then the proper way to end the war and its war crimes is impeachment of the major Bushies and those House members who do not favor impeachment will become accessories to war crimes and should be drummed out of office themselves.

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Iraq war signals need for big changes
Posted by: Moonray on Jan 2, 2007 1:12 AM   
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Perhaps the most important aspect of the Iraq war for Americans is what it has revealed about our own country. The war has demonstrated clearly that:

-- Most Americans are lazy, uninformed and gullible in political matters. (Incredibly, we re-elected George W. Bush in 2004. How insane was that?)
-- We aren't really in control of our elected offcials. Once elected or re-elected, public officials can do pretty much whatever they like until just before the next election, when they tailor their behavior toward getting re-elected.
-- Special interests -- including foreign governments -- have tremendous influence over our government. The Iraq war is largely the result of that influence.

It's important that we end this war -- and the equally useless war in Afghanistan -- promptly, but it's even more important that we correct the flaws in our system that made these wars possible. That will involve passing tough new laws to limit the presidency to one brief term, further limit congressional terms, strictly control lobbyists, remove all private money from the election process and dismantle the military-industrial complex.

Radical Islam is a threat, but we should address it through security measures at home, not sending our troops to thrash around in remote deserts and mountain passes, which accomplishes nothing.

Already the war-mongering neocons are conditioning Americans to accept being at war permanently. Unless we find a way to significantly change our government, it's likely they will get their way.

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And You Thought 2006 Was A Nightmare???
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jan 2, 2007 4:15 AM   
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2007 is going to be even worst. You want a prediction? I've got a humdinger for you: If the US is still involved in Iraq this time next year, the American death toll by January 1, 2008 will be over six-thousand. Care to make a wager?

George Armstrong Custer, if you think about it, was a brilliant military strategist when compared to George Walker Bush. Little Big Horn is starting to look better and better, isn't it? The war in Iraq is lost. It's over. Let's come to terms with this extremely nast reality and get on with our lives. Anyone who thought that the people of that country would just sit back while the USA installed a puppet government weren't thinking rationally.

When, in the wake of the Tet Offensive, Lyndon Baines Johnson added a surge of even more troops to Viet Nam, all it did was increase the body count on both sides. No good came of it - none.

One more prediction: Expect impeachement proceedings to begin in the late summer.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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GET OUT ASAP
Posted by: Abushite on Jan 2, 2007 4:15 AM   
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Start packing, leave every bit of equipment a soldier cannot carry himself, get on to the troop ships , leave the carriers offshore with heavy ordinance. Go home, put the C.I.C in irons - the V.P. to Gitmo - appoint a lynch mob. The rest of this criminal gang arraign before the peoples courts - sentence to New Orleans Reconstruction for 6 years as laborers.
Talk to Iran. to Korea, cut off aid to to Israel , recognize the democratically elected government of Palestine.
Agree that global warning is caused by the USA amongst others. Agree to join the international court of justice. Tell the truth!
Recognize unions of same sex individuals. Fund Stem cell research. Entrench women's rights. Help other nations.

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» RE: GET OUT ASAP Posted by: yellow
Come on - lighten up will ya?
Posted by: MAD on Jan 2, 2007 5:42 AM   
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I don't know what war you guys are watching, but from where I sit everything is going according to plan. Saddam has been summarily executed thereby heightening tensions between Sunni and Shia to new, almost civil war dimensions.

Ah yes, nothing says winning strategy like letting a sectarian bloodbath do the heavy lifting for you. Can't rid yourself of that pesky insurgency eh? No problem - just execute the symbolic leader-cum-protector of the minority Sunnis and watch the car bombs proliferate. Come on people . . it's all in good fun. Lighten up and enjoy the destruction.

Haven't you heard the news? We're going to "surge to victory" and Americans are going to continue sitting on their hands, bitching and moaning and decrying their "powerlessness" all the while. It's going to be a hoot! I love watching Americans getting all worked up but ultimately doing fuck all to actually affect change. OH SNAP, what am I talking about? That's right - you voted for the Dems!! Well never mind in that case! You've done all that's humanly possible. Rest easy friends. YOU VOTED FOR THE DEMS and can therefore sleep soundly in the knowledge that you voted for the party of change! *honking laugh*

Meanwhile, the president's rating will sink into the single digits and the intrepid Dems will suggest even stronger measures . . you know, like nominating Hillary or Edwards as their presidential candidate. Boy he sure has been talking tough lately. Imagine talking to McCain like that? I never! Yes things are truly looking up in '07.

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January 27, 28, 29, 2007
Posted by: wawa on Jan 2, 2007 5:58 AM   
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We the People for Peace and Justice are not just marching in DC on January 27th
We are preparing for our day with Congress on Jan. 28th
and will be speaking with our Rep's on Jan. 29th.

hope to see many of you there:

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/



e
http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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» RE: You Misunderstand Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: You Misunderstand Posted by: Trazom
» RE: You Misunderstand Posted by: Trazom
» Bingo. Posted by: Lord Ichmael
IRAQ IN 2007
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jan 2, 2007 6:27 AM   
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2007 is about DOING. We've had enough talk. Agreed that there was no plan to get out There still isn't. The administration is buying time. They want to be in Iraq. THAT IS THE PLAN. For every day that the American people talk they buy another day in Iraq. It has been very profitable and they don't want to kill the golden goose. These are not people who loose sleep over dead soldiers. The people of Iraq simply don't matter to them. Thanks, ANNA

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» Exactly! NOT doing. Posted by: Beck
Bring back the draft--end the war in 6 weeks
Posted by: zooeyhall on Jan 2, 2007 6:46 AM   
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Institute a draft with NO exemptions. Once the sons and daughters of the upper middle class are on the line to get their asses shot off in Iraq (or wherever), this whole thing will end QUICK!!!

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Here's an idea- what you just do with Nazis.
Posted by: xbj on Jan 2, 2007 6:49 AM   
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We need to get the two-thirds of the troops that now, today, finally understand that the Iraq war was a moneymaking scam for the portfolios of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Rice, Rove, and their warpig cheerleaders in the Mainstream Media like Tony Blankley, home for good and march, fully armed, to DC, with the 88% of the American public who finally see through this babykilling scam for what it is right behind them, armed to the teeth.

Once in DC it will be time to have a real and very short trial and then have several very public, very pompous hangings, not at all like Saddam, but more along the lines of the Ford Funeral, with the Red, White, and Blue as far as the eye can see and massive cheering crowds including babies on shoulders with American Flags. Guests of the Rope of Honor: all the top members of the Bush Administration and a few Supreme Court Justices, and yes, even several of their lowly MSM cheerleaders, especially including Limbaugh and Colter. There should be no qualms about hanging supposed women like Rice and Coulter, or real women like Limbaugh.

The Founding Fathers would have done it in a heartbeat. And they would have done it long before now too.

Of course, the entire crew will likely nuke Iran to the tally of millions of innocent women, babies, and children before this happens, most unfortunately.

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» RE: Military Coup? Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Military Coup? Posted by: xbj
Pelosi
Posted by: ScottP on Jan 2, 2007 8:26 AM   
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The assertion seems incredible to me:
clearly anti-war Speaker Nancy Pelosi

Pelosi has made repeated speeches against the war. But she has also voted for every appropriation for the war.
- The speeches haven't stopped or even slowed the war. In fact, under the constitution, the commander in chief executes the war, after Congress approves and funds it. Similarly, plenty of folks have done various investigations, and no concrete results have been seen. Investigations and speeches are ineffective courses of action, they just repeat well known information.
- Congress has the power to vote down the supplemental appropriations, which would force a showdown on the issue. Bush might attempt to carry on without authorized funding for a while, but eventually the wheels would grind to a halt and he would whine and blame while withdrawing the troops (or perhaps he would take some rash action that he would get smacked down on). Holding back appropriations is the most direct and effective course of action available to Congress.

So Pelosi has the choice between sticking with a course of action that has proven to be ineffective for 3 years and a course of action which will almost certainly succeed. She chooses the ineffective action. I would correct the statement to be:

clearly pro-war Speaker Nancy Pelosi

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Bombard Washington with Faxes
Posted by: rwa on Jan 2, 2007 8:50 AM   
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Speaker Pelosi,

The American people elected a Democratic majority to restore checks and balances, the rule of law, and our reputation as a law-abiding country in the world community. These cannot be accomplished unless President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are impeached. Their impeachable offenses dwarf those that led to proceedings against President Clinton and President Andrew Jonson, and the threatened proceeding against President Richard Nixon combined. The offenses below are already supported with evidence in the public record, including admissions of guilt. It is likely that investigations prior to impeachment would turn up even more.

IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY FOR:



Lying to the American people, Congress, and the world about the threat from Iraq & need for war.


War of aggression against Iraq, which posed no threat to US.


Death of over 600,000 Iraqis and nearly 3,000 S troops in unnecessary war.


Exploiting 9/11 for political gain and for war to benefit oil companies and other cronies.


Canceling Iraq's oil contracts with foreign companies and giving them to American corporations and restructuring Iraq's oil industry to their specification in violation of the Hague and Geneva Conventions.


Awarding no-bid contracts to cronies for rebuilding and oil exploitation in Iraq.


Inciting animosity toward the US by attacking Iraq and falsely claiming it was part of "War on Terror."


Authorizing the use of torture in violation of the Geneva Convention and US law and against the advice of the uniformed military.


Participating in the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Haiti and attempting to do so in Venezuela.


Failure to fully cooperate with 9/11 Commission and joint congressional inquiry, and refusal to comply with Freedom of Information Act in other areas as well.


Warrantless wiretapping of American citizens.


Issuing signing statements that contradict the plain meaning of legislation, including on issues of torture.


Denying Americans and others habeas corpus rights even after Supreme Court ruled against it.


Coercing government employees to lie to Congress and the American people about the cost of Medicare drug benefit, global warning, and toxic hazard of NYC after 9/11.


Failure to provide timely aid to Hurricane Katrina victims and appointing someone with no experience to run FEMA.


Barring Americans who disagree with the president from public events paid for with taxpayer money, and forcibly removing some with private security posing as Secret Service agents.


Sincerely,


Fax or snail mail the letter below or your own variation to:

FAX: 202-225-8259

Nancy Pelosi
2371 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515

District Office:

450 Golden Gate Ave.
14th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94102

emails are nice, but letters and faxes make a physical pile that form a powerful visual, and that should be Pelosi opening her door and being buried by letters.

CC a copy to your congressman too. You can find their address here: http://www.house.gov /

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State of American Democracy
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 2, 2007 9:04 AM   
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America wants out, the voting in November showed that unmistakably. 60 days later nothing has changed. The secret is that Bush has no intention of changing a thing and never did. He figured America's short attention span and Democratic cowardice would give him the wiggle room he needs.

Someone needs to cut the Unitary Executive down to size. Cut off the cash. Haul his arse into court if necessary. The Polar Bears are not the only life form that needs protecting from this luddite.

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» RE: Luddite Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Luddite Posted by: NoPCZone
What Next?
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 2, 2007 10:10 AM   
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Some good suggestions there, but does anyone really think normal political activism is going to stop this war? It hasn't made a dent yet.

The top Democrats have made it perfectly clear that they will do nothing that matters to stop Bush, even though that's what they were voted in for. Most of them voted for his wars, and vocally supported them until very recently. We have to assume they still do, at least passively. They're taking the same money the Republicans are, and their owners haven't finished looting the country.

It took more than politics to stop the Vietnam War, and it will take more to stop this one. That means physical resistance. When a hundred thousand people sit down in the government buildings and refuse to move; when we stop military supply trains or trucks loading ships - that's when we'll be taken seriously. I don't want to do that stuff, either; but I remember 1968 very well, it's the first year I voted; and that's what it took.

A thought: Washington is a very liberal town, and the cops are probably unionized. Can the city council and the union leaders be convinced to refuse to arrest mass protesters? The Mexicans could pull that off; why not us? Make them send in troops: Bring the War Home. It was that cover of Time Magazine with military helicopers and masses of smoke in front of the Washinton Monument that really began the end of the Vietnam war.

Don't just march - that's a waste of time and fuel now; SHUT IT DOWN.

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» RE: What Next? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: What Next? Posted by: VZEQICVA
Refuse Funding
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 2, 2007 10:37 AM   
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Remember, Bush has no veto if Congress refuses to fund the war. It isn't legislation. The House can do that by itself - it takes BOTH houses of Congress to fund anything. If they stick to their guns, there is no money for anything but coming home.

And yes, that will probably be a cold day in Hell.

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» RE: efuse Funding Posted by: VZEQICVA
From the Baltimore Sun An all-consuming 'war on terror'
Posted by: rwa on Jan 2, 2007 10:53 AM   
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Once again the Baltimore Sun proves to be America's most courageous MSM paper:

"We are trapped in fighting an unwinnable - even nonsensical - "war on terror" because its invention was required in order to fight in Iraq. After years of slaughter in Iraq, the neoconservative fantasy of a series of cheap, fast, neo-imperial victories is dead. But the war on terror lives on, stronger than ever.

How did the war on terror take on a life of its own and trap the entire political class, and most Americans, into public beliefs about the need to fight a global war on terror as our first priority, even when there's little or no evidence of an enemy present in the United States? What accounts for $650 billion worth of expenditures, along with baseless cycles of "sleeper cell" hysteria and McCarthyist policies of surveillance and "pre-emptive prosecution" not seen in this country since the early 1950s? "

Full article: http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/baltsun09.html

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Grownups needed
Posted by: Sam Thornton on Jan 2, 2007 11:49 AM   
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I'm trying to look at the war in Iraq logically, probably a mistake since the Washington establishment seems to keep slipping ever deeper into some kind of alternate reality. Let me try anyway.

Logically, if the problems in Iraq could be solved by the application of force on force, Operation Iraqi Freedom would've successfully concluded three years ago.

As I understand it, the objective of having boots on the ground is to convince an armed enemy to give up the fight, either by killing enough of them so there no longer are enough of them to resist, destroying their war materiel so they no longer can resist, or otherwise convincing them that it's a bad idea to continue the fight.

Hasn't happened. Given the fierce independence of the Iraqi people and their ability to draw on resources inside and outside their country, probably never could have happened short of using the same kinds of wholesale barbarism successful conquerers in the region have used in the past. The Nuremberg trials and the existence of the World Court at the Hague have put paid to that option.

If all this is true, then the problem the American people face now is how to convince our leaders to pull their heads out of whatever twilight zone they're stuck in and begin acting reasonably, rather than continuing to act in what they appear to perceive as their own self interest.

I'm slowly becoming convinced that the only way that will happen is if the protective shell that surrounds our ruling elites starts to seriously crack, and they begin to understand that they, personally, have more to lose than to gain by not dealing with problems as the rest of us grownups deal with them.

In short, face reality and pull the troops out now.

=============================================

Sent this to Bush and congressional delegation using www.congress.org, a free service.

On a "lighter" note, take the Presidential Psychopath Poll.

Cheers.

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Saddam is dead and I feel sick
Posted by: babs on Jan 2, 2007 12:07 PM   
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The headlines screamed across the world that Hussein was executed by hanging.

While all the pro-death right wingers were celebrating yet another killing, I wondered what will be the fate of those men who are guilty of the same crimes many times multiplied? Will they be dealt with in the same way?

Probably not. The really heinous criminals are wealthy, "exceptional" Americans and they will live out their days in comfort and safety. Mission accomplished.

I feel sick.

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ACTION needed NOW
Posted by: World Can't Wait on Jan 2, 2007 12:23 PM   
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Time to take ACTION! Get involved in Driving Out the Bush Regime!

No one is going to do this for us, it is our RESPONSIBILITY to take action. If not us, who? If not now, when?

Check out actions around country on JAN.4
The World Can't Wait--Drive Out the Bush Regime!

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OUT NOW PETITION. OPEN and SIGN.
Posted by: rwa on Jan 2, 2007 1:30 PM   
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/OutNow/

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Sadly, Bush the Gambler: All In
Posted by: Roy Eidelson on Jan 2, 2007 1:41 PM   
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Immediately after the 9/11 attacks, President Bush sat down to play poker with the biggest stack of chips at the table, the odds-on favorite to win one of the highest-stakes games ever played. This huge initial chip advantage was built from a unified and supportive citizenry at home, a mainstream media that rarely questioned his judgment or intentions, an international community prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, and a military machine bigger than the next couple dozen countries combined. But since those early heady days, Bush and his close advisers and neocon allies have made one horrendous decision after another. The great tragedy, of course, is that the president has not only been playing with his own chips. Rather, in this game his poor play has cost the lives of our courageous soldiers and many Iraqi civilians, our country's stature in the world, and our national resources desperately needed for other purposes, domestic and international.

Others, realizing how poorly they've been playing, would recognize that they don't belong at the table—or at least conclude that they had entered the wrong game. Not so with the president. Rather, all signs suggest that this stubborn poker player is unlikely to learn any constructive lessons from his abysmal performance. There are at least five reasons why this is so. First, although a relative novice at the game, he has refused to prepare adequately, hasn't mastered the likelihood of various outcomes, and seemingly hasn't even tried to understand his opponents and their style of play. Second, he has cultivated and embraced an Old West saloon mentality where a loaded six-shooter and a quick draw can turn losing hands into winners. Third, he has a personal history of being bailed out whenever he has come up short in the past, whether through family connections or the highest reaches of our judicial system. Fourth, he has convinced himself that God is personally by his side, presumably with an unlimited supply of aces. And fifth, he is now concerned about his legacy, and likely suspects that only a miraculously successful reshaping of Iraq and the Middle East can save him from being a frequent answer in "worst president ever" debates in the decades ahead.

My list is undoubtedly incomplete, but it is daunting. It suggests that Bush will ultimately be driven to go "all in" regardless of any wiser counsel he might receive. And at the very least, "all in" means continuing to play the Iraq hands as he has done thus far--or perhaps with even greater recklessness and abandon. More frightening still, "all in" may mean saving his very last stack of chips for Iran. As a new year begins, we should all be asking whether anyone can pull him away from the table before it is (again) too late.

P.S. As an addendum, the appeals Bush and his supporters will use in defense of their actions are predictable. I describe some of them in detail in an online video entitled "Dangerous Ideas: How Conservatives Exploit Our Five Core Concerns" that can be viewed 
HERE

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Shut Up And Do As Your Told
Posted by: braxxian on Jan 2, 2007 2:08 PM   
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Quit bitching America, just shut up and do as your told. That is what your govorment has been telling you for the last 6 years. And guess what, you have done exactly that. You bitch and moan on the web, you carry on about impeachment that will never happen, you dream about tearing down GWB and his nest of vipers. But guess what, you do nothing about it.

Look back to the 60's for your inspiration. Where are the mass protests? where are the mass people refusing to go to the meatgrinder that your govorment has made for you. There are none. Why?. Simply because you don't have a draft thats why. Yet. As long as it someone else doing the fighting we will sit on our arse and do a bit of moaning on the net and feel better about ourselves.

If you want true change you have to be prepared to fight for it. America has sat back and watched for 6 years as your govorment has been hijacked by a group of warmoungering elites. And you have done nothing about it. So do us all a favor around the world, shut up and do as your told, just like all children. Until your prepared to do what you must to take back your country.

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Safe
Posted by: Maryanne on Jan 2, 2007 2:22 PM   
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Does anyone remember- and realize- that when Bus hent to the Middle East recently to meet with leaders there, he could not so so in Iraq BECAUSE IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS FOR HIM TO GO THERE? In spite of the Green Zone? However, it apparently is safe enough for the Iraqis to live there, and for our military to go to "spread democracy."

I think the first thing that should be done is to have Bush go to Iraq- NOT THE GREEN ZONE- and spend a few weeks with the Iraqi people to get a real idea of what is really going on. It might be an eye opener.

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Lost the war? Get real.
Posted by: Barrington James on Jan 2, 2007 3:19 PM   
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What has happened to our reality or perspective on the cost of making America rich and powerful? What makes people think we have lost in Iraq or Afghanistan? Did we think that they would just give us the oil? We now have control over most of oil over there and when we fight Iran we’ll get the rest. We’ve won. Lost? Says who? Is it because 3,000 young Americans have died over there or 30,000 have been badly injured? Did those 600, 000 Iraqi kids die in vain? This is sad, very sad, but for hundreds of years we lost hundreds of men to mining coal disasters every year and we didn’t stop mining coal. We lose 50,000 people a year to car accidents every year, and this is very sad, and yet we still drive our cars, even after drinking, and we tolerate that because it’s our right. Cancer is killing us by the thousands every month and we know why and yet we do nothing because we like smoking, driving too many polluting cars, over-eating and sitting on our butts. We put up with the horror of slavery for 300 years, murdered millions of Native Americans for at least 300 years, got involved in two hideous world wars and dozens of others to make ourselves rich and powerful, and now it seems the price in Iraq and Afghanistan is too high? How can that be? We currently have over 2,000,000 of our people in prison paying the price of not being able to cope in our society so the rest of us can enjoy the fruits of the richest country in the world. How can we ignore their sacrifice? What about Venezuela? Are we going to pass on that now too? What’s happened to our values? Did we expect that being number one was going to be easy? I say bring back the draft, build our army up to 10, 000, 000 and take charge. This planet is toast in 50 years anyway. Let's all go out with a bang and not a whimper.

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» RE: Lost the war? Get real. Posted by: braxxian
NOTHING WILL CHANGE
Posted by: Melvin on Jan 2, 2007 5:43 PM   
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IS THIS BLACK HUMOUR?
The USA will still be in Iraq in 15-20 years time!
The USA either Repbublican or Democrat have NO intention of leaving this oil rich area.
You are an oil dependent nation with NO wish to curtail your lust for cheap energy.
The USA IS building permenant military bases in Iraq as we speak!
Untill you guys, the USA, start to look within yourselves; nothing will change.

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3,000 Soldiers Slain; One Story ©
Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Jan 2, 2007 6:17 PM   
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Dear Don Hazen . . .

I truly appreciate this editorial.

Unlike many Progressives, I was not elated by the recent election. I, as you stated realized, as of yet, nothing has truly changed. George W. Bush is still Commander-In-Chief; Cheney is second in charge. Congress may be slightly more Democratic; however, we know not what they will truly do or what they might accomplish. I wonder what will be. How many more milestones will we reach in Iraq.

I invite your reflections on . . .
3,000 Soldiers Slain; One Story ©

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Edwards, Hillary, Obama and the Israeli's
Posted by: sofla100 on Jan 2, 2007 7:58 PM   
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Edwards picked Bonior, a former Michigan Congressman, to run his campaign and I understand AIPAC and the Israeli's are fuming. Edwards earlier supported the war but now has radically changed his tune. But, is it for real? Well, Bonior is a very good sign, seems the Israeli's hate his guts because they could never buy him out. And, Michigan, home to the largest Arab population in the USA (Dearborn and Detroit), was not going to send someone "pro-Israeli" into Congress. So, this gives me a good feeling about Edwards, at least for now. As for Hillary, she is keeping her mouth shut lately on Israeli but is a very staunch supporter, you can bet she is an AIPAC "ideal candidate.". As for Obama, just where does this guy stand on the issues anyway? He is too much of a "dream candidate," ripe for picking by the money boys and easy prey for the Israeli's. Frankly, the Dems will probably go most likely with Hillary but could be Obama, but never Edwards. Remember, the Israeli's are not going to stand for an Iraq not in America's (and hence Israeli's) hip pocket. This sad fact of life is the reality in American politics. Israel will stop at absolutely nothing to put in who it wants and keep out who it does not want. Remember, GW Bush started this war primarily to help them anyway.

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Has Complacency Set In?
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Jan 3, 2007 12:51 PM   
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Year Four of the American Occupation of Iraq and no one in Washington has a plan to end the debacle. Yes, "we" executed our puppet Saddam Hussein and killed his children in a gunfight as the country is engulfed in horrible violence which could make the devil envious. His death could guarantee more mayhem. The USA simpy can't extinguish the fire it started. Iraq is bleeding to death.
On the day he was hanged Americans simply didn't care. We said "Woohoo" and skirted to the malls to exchange our gifts and watch bowl games.
Complacency has set in. It's the attitude some had about New Orleans when the hurricane turned the city into Dhaka, with images of people and infrastructure drifitng listlessly on our TV sets and we're more concerned about who was leading the NL West or our trip to Las Vegas.
Our leaders have no plan. They want to win. Win what? They surely haven't won the hearts and minds of Iraqis. They havn't won my heart, either.

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Political Punditry
Posted by: Carl Street on Jan 3, 2007 1:52 PM   
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Now that Rumsfield's minnie military strategy has proven to be both mickey mouse and full of bugs we have to ask oursevles was he daffy or just plain goofy... And, will he take responsibility or will Donald duck?

BTW, BTW, BTW...that's all folks.... :)

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Please bring them home!