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"What's Going On?" A Vietnam-Era Song Rings True Today

By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted December 28, 2006.


Marvin Gaye's 1971 song spoke of the madness of the Vietnam War. His timely lyrics should prompt us to work to end today's senseless war in Iraq.

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In 1971, singer Marvin Gaye raised hackles when he tried to make sense of the madness of the Vietnam War by asking, "What's Going On?" He sang:

Mother, mother/ There's too many of you crying/ Brother, brother, brother/ There's far too many of you dying/ You know we've got to find a way/ To bring some lovin' here today -- Ya/ Father, father/ We don't need to escalate/ You see, war is not the answer/ For only love can conquer hate/ You know we've got to find a way/ To bring some loving' here today.

The song, told from the perspective of a returning Vietnam veteran, was inspired by Gaye's brother who had recently returned from that disastrous war.

Gaye would be asking the same question if he were alive today. Nearly 3,000 U.S. soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis have died. A brutal civil war continues to escalate, aggravated by intense opposition to the U.S. occupation. The Joint Chiefs of Staff, Colin Powell, General John Abazaid -- commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East who just resigned -- and the vast majority of the American people oppose sending more U.S. troops to Iraq. Yet George W. Bush is planning to do just that.

Even staunch Republicans like MSNBC anchor Joe Scarborough, who supported the war and voted twice for Bush, is asking what's going on. On his December 20 show, Scarborough was appalled by Bush's statement, "I encourage you all to go shopping more." MSNBC analyst Mike Barnacle noted that "this President is isolated, delusional, and stubborn." Bush's "delusion," according to Barnacle, is going to result in the deaths and carnage of our troops and people throughout the Middle East. "I don't think [Bush] knows what he's saying . . . He is totally isolated from reality," Barnacle added. "The deaths of American soldiers now verges on the criminal."

So what is going on? Former Nixon counsel John Dean recently told a San Diego audience he doesn't think Bush is in charge -- Cheney is running the government. "One of Dick Cheney's geniuses is that he lets Dubya wake up every morning and think he's President," Dean noted. Cheney has set up his own National Security Council in the Vice President's office, according to Dean. Decisions about budgets, personnel, etc., never get to the Oval Office. Cheney decides the important matters before they ever reach Bush's desk, Dean said.

The report of the Iraq Study Group was not prepared by a bunch of radicals. It even recommended privatizing Iraq's oil. But the group of 10 saw that more troops and shunning Iran and Syria is not the answer. What did Bush do? He dismissed the ISG report out of hand in favor of Cheney's agenda.

Why would Dick Cheney and the neocons who convinced Bush to start this war decide to pull out now? They created the war to achieve their imperial dream of privatizing Iraqi oilfields and building permanent U.S. military bases nearby to protect them. They are willing to sacrifice the lives of our soldiers and the Iraqi people in pursuit of their dream.

Cheney is undoubtedly telling the evangelical Dubya to hang in there, God is testing him. Remember Bush said he consulted with his heavenly father before starting the war. If Bush thinks God told him to start this war, what will it take to make him stop?

And it could get worse. Cheney-Bush has sent our battleships to the Persian Gulf to "warn" Iran that we mean business. And the White House blacked out parts of a New York Times op-ed on negotiating with Iran written by two former U.S. government advisors. This means, in all likelihood, that Cheney has decided it's time to pick off the next member of the Axis of Evil. They're following the same strategy they used on the way to Iraq: convince the American people that Iran is building weapons of mass destruction, notwithstanding overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Attacking Iran would cause a disaster of epic proportions.

Now that the Democrats are taking over the reins in Washington, we have a golden opportunity to set things right. But incoming Senate majority leader Harry Reid's first instinct was to align himself with the 12 percent of Americans who support sending more troops to Iraq. And new House Speaker Nancy Pelosi lost no time in declaring that they would not cut funding for the war.

It seems more likely the Republicans, not the Democrats, will try to derail the Cheney-Bush war express. Senator Gordon Smith (R-Ore) declared last week on the Senate floor: "I, for one, am at the end of my rope when it comes to supporting a policy that has our soldiers patrolling the same streets in the same way, being blown up by the same bombs day after day. That is absurd. It may even be criminal. I cannot support that anymore."

Ultimately, it is up to the American people to step up to the plate and stop this war. It's fine to tell the pollsters we want our troops out of Iraq. But that's not doing the trick. The Vietnam War ended after thousands of people marched in the streets. We may not have the draft to get the college kids off their duffs. But we do have our consciences. And that should be enough.

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Marjorie Cohn is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and president of the National Lawyers Guild. Her book, Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law, will be published next spring by PoliPointPress.

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Apropos anti-war songs ...
Posted by: Talpone on Dec 28, 2006 2:59 AM   
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... check out song and video "This is war" by Smile Empty Soul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Dd0VN9zm4

(... sorry if this is on every channel in the US and everybody knows about it, but I live in Germany and only know it from the internet.)

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» Not bad Posted by: kepstein7777
» Neil Young Posted by: jackcertain
Cool song
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Dec 28, 2006 3:09 AM   
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These days, there seem to be no hip, concise, powerful equivalents to those songs.

If I'm wrong about that, and there are some good songs these days, it might be interesting to hear what they are from people who know.

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» RE: Cool song Posted by: xbj
» RE: angry songs Posted by: ScottP
Wake up Everybody....
Posted by: Zemiti on Dec 28, 2006 3:26 AM   
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The American public WILL NOT move swiftly to arrest the Iraq shambles!!...this public is not outraged enough to change the entire course of US politics, for that is what needs to happen!! Why?; they have become too used to the same regurgitated BS self-image of superpower pax-americana garbage to realise that a change of course is sorely needed. A bit of humility and humbleness is necessary, instead of this gung-ho boldness buoyed by holding the trigger to WMDs; it's like people possesed by a syphillic seizure. That is why we don't want other people to have WMDs and only trust ourselves to be responsible with them. Are we?? THis warped view needs to change, with it all the sickening hypocrisy and double standards that result in unecessary war, death and destruction. Indeed, play on Marvin, "What's Going On?"....read and listen to the "Message in the Music"...

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debacle
Posted by: rsaxto on Dec 28, 2006 4:04 AM   
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The debacle in Vietnam should have ended reckless and immoral warfare forever. Since it did not stop imperialist immoral warfare we must stop imperialist immoral warfare by impeaching and jailing the Bushies for mass murder and other war crimes. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have died? You got to be kidding: it's hundreds of thousands and rising. USA out now.

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Outrage?
Posted by: heid on Dec 28, 2006 4:11 AM   
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What public outrage? The public isn't against the Iraq war - they're against losing it. And until a draft is initiated, there won't be a significant grassroots effort against it, because for most people, there's no personal involvement - at least, none that they choose to see.

The American public is, ultimately, to blame for this fiasco. What's going on? Apathy is going on. Nothing more and nothing less. Where are the millions marching against this war? They're sitting on their duffs, out golfing, going shopping, going to movies - anything but thinking about something as unpleasant as the Iraq war.

Of course, there are a few of us who feel otherwise. We are the exceptions that prove the rule. But just look around. What happens when you try to bring up the subject with most people? They don't want to hear about it. They don't want to be bothered. Just like they don't want to be bothered about the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans, even though that happened inside the U.S.

The bottom line is that the bulk of the blame belongs on each individual American who has buried his or her head in the sand, not out of instinct, but out of choice.

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» Hindsight Posted by: NoPCZone
» Thank you. Posted by: kepstein7777
And another good song: Well it's 1...2...3...
Posted by: greentime on Dec 28, 2006 6:05 AM   
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Remember Country Joe and the Fish and their song?
You could substitute Iraq-land or Iran-land or any-land for Vietnam!

"Well come on all of you big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
Got himself in a terrible jam,
way down yonder in
Vietnam.

ok, substitute (Iraq-Land) (Iran-Land) (Syria-Land) (Afghanistan) (Africa-Land) (America-Land) (China-Land) (The Last of the Land)

Put down your books and pick up a gun,
we're goin to have a whole lot of fun.

Well it's one... two... three.. what are we fightin for?..."

Well people of the planet, what ARE we fighting for? Why are we fighting when there are so many other possible ways to relate to each other? Is it ever going to be possible for us human beings to choose a new way of solving problems? To EVOLVE? Must we always act out this extreme reaction, this fools drama, this addicition to violence, this choice of ignoring the potential of restroing balance by other means?

The planet is dying, it needs our full, peaceful attention.
"War? What is it good for?... absolutely nothing!"

Another good song.

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» war? as a free ring tone. Posted by: beckybond
Bring back the draft
Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 28, 2006 6:56 AM   
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Regurgitating old songs from the Vietnam war era, or playing Peter Paul and Mary retrospecs, will not end the war in Iraq.

Let's bring back the draft, with NO exemptions!!! That will raise the hackles in people--especially the upper middle class. Especially when they realize that now their own precious Johnny (or Jane's) ass is on the line to get shot at in Iraq.

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There are some thoughtful artists still
Posted by: Fishbone Soldier on Dec 28, 2006 7:11 AM   
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The difference between Marvin and some other political Vietnam statements from the time was that he was truly thoughtful about the situation. He was able to sum up the true feelings of the time by coming at it from a human perspective. There are a few bands that are still trying to do that.

Michael Franti and Spearhead have a new album out called Yell Fire. Franti visited soldiers in Iraq and a lot of the songs were inspired by what they had to say. It's probably not Spearhead's best work, but it's certainly their most passionate. Check out this a capella version of one of the songs.

There are some others out there, but I have been playing the hell out of this album lately (it's been galvanizing me). The question of "where are these artists?" is more an indictment of the current state of the music industry than anything else...

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Vietnam redux anyone?
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Dec 28, 2006 7:33 AM   
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You guys still in search of a theme/protest song for Iraq? Guess you'll grow what's left of your graying hair and put it into ponytails, start looking for the old tie dyes and ratty jeans. Buy some MJ and Boone's Farm and start going to rock concerts again. The Rolling Stones still perform (although they don't seem to jump as high anymore). Peace symbols coming back and love-ins too (dependent on the availability of Viagra from the local dealers). Far out dudes! Where the party? Thing is your children will think you even more strange than they origionally perceived you and they'll rush out and join the Republican Party. Bummer!.....

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» RE: Vietnam redux anyone? Posted by: willymack
Anti-War Art needs an Anti-War Audience ...
Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Dec 28, 2006 8:02 AM   
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We don't have one. Without a Draft to "concentrate the mind" ... the 'sacrifice' part belongs to Iraqis and poor saps from the South who didn't know better than to sign up for an Army commanded by George Bush. It's a pity for them, of course ... but who really cares?

Now, as a trade off for the ususal Soldier's Bargain ... we civilians must not say anthing to hurt the feelings or damage the morale of these "Brave Boys and Girls" ... Even the anti-war critics on Air America preface every partisan critique with 'OF COURSE WE ALL SUPPORT THE TROOPS' ... and that said, there really IS no more to say.

But here's the filthy nasty truth ... you cannot 'support the troops' without ALSO supporting the War, the Leader and the Mission. In the case of Vietnam, the Congress finally cut off war funding and the war ended. This time around, it's already been well-established that "cutting funding" = "betraying the troops."

Gaye's "What's Going On" sort of qualifies as GOOD anti-War song, if you restrict the selection to Top Ten Motown Artists

But during 'Nam, the song even Grunts were listening to and crying over during 'was:



Universal Soldier -- Buffie St. Marie


He’s 5 foot 2 and he’s 6 feet 4
He fights with missiles and with spears
He’s all of 31 and he’s only 17.
He’s been a soldier for a thousand years

He’s a catholic, a Hindu, an atheist, a Jane
A Bhuddist, and a Baptist and Jew.
And he knows he shouldn’t kill
And he knows he always will kill
You’ll for me my friend and me for you

And He’s fighting for Canada.
He’s fighting for France.
He’s fighting for the USA.
And he’s fighting for the Russians.
And he’s fighting for Japan
And he thinks we’ll put an end to war this way.

And He’s fighting for democracy,
He’s fighting for the reds
He says it’s for the peace of all.
He’s the one, who must decide,
who’s to live and who’s to die.
And he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without him,
how would Hitler have condemned him at Dachau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone
He’s the one who gives his body
as a weapon of the war.
And without him all this killing can’t go on

He’s the universal soldier
And he really is the blame
His orders comes from
far away no more.


They come from him.
And you and me.
And brothers can’t you see.
This is not the way we put an end to war


I can't thank you for your service ... but I'm very sorry for your loss.

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» Can't We All Just Whine Along? Posted by: cheneybush2008
» I'm confused... Posted by: mjabele
» RE:Ride em cowboy ... Posted by: Edward George
Madam, you are FAR too gracious to Bush
Posted by: xbj on Dec 28, 2006 8:52 AM   
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Absolutely, you are correct in your assumption that Cheney is really running EVERYTHING, but the assumption that Bush is some kind of victim puppet in all of this, a man of "Christian" principles being manipulated by Cheney is WAY off the mark.

No, one look at the man's face during every single lie he told, every little smirk when talking about people sacrificing their lives or his "faith" in God, his every breath and botoxed aborted cocaine snort tells the tale. He certainly might not know or handle all the details, but he certainly is 100% behind President Cheney and anything he wants to do, and is well aware of the consequences, for his portfolio, his worthless heirs, the nation, the countries in our miltary's nuclear sights, and the entire world. Amerika MUST rule the entire earth and America MUST die in the attempt. Because his Poppy told him so, on the golf course, before 9-11, when he told him it was coming and why.

There is NO WAY that this man even believes for a second that he is a Christian; he swore alliegance to Lucifer lying in a coffin in college and he knows who god is, for him and his cronies; the god of the almighty petrodollar earned from killing and agitating hatred and Red States Amerika's seemingly endless blood thirst for intolerance, hatred, and revenge.

No, Bush KNOWS who his lord and god is; it is the atheists among them like Cheney who have no idea what they face after their death. Simple annihilation is far too good a fate for all of them, and they can only wish it were so.

And that's "What's Goin' On."

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» XBJ - why not leave leaflets? Posted by: zipper696
ALL WE ARE SPEWING, GIVE SURRENDER A UNION JOB
Posted by: cheneybush2008 on Dec 28, 2006 9:52 AM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061228/ap_on_re_af/somalia_130

Islamist terror thugs on the run, again?

Howard Scream may have to skip the Ford funeral for the Saddam funeral.

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Political Moo-zic
Posted by: democracy8888 on Dec 28, 2006 11:19 AM   
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Yo! Check out the Dirty Doxzen Brass Band's 2006 CD, "What's Goin' On," which is a reconceptualization of Gaye's classic album, including the title track, against the backdrop of Katrina and Iraq. Truly, one of the best releases of the year...

Also, check out Steve Earle's last couple of CDs.

If your taste leans more toward hip-hop, go immediately and buy The Coup's most recent CD.

peace.
patrick

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» RE: Political Moo-zic Posted by: edith
I am curious--the existence of the draft and oppostion to the Vietnam war
Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 28, 2006 11:44 AM   
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Thank you for the comments to my post. I still feel that, from a purely pragmatic point of view, if you want to end wars like Iraq we should have a draft of no exemptions. So that the pain is felt across ALL socio-economic groups.

However--I have often wondered how much the existence of the draft in the '60s had on fueling opposition to the Vietnam war. Supposing, for example, we had had a volunteer army like now during the Vietnam war. Would opposition to it had been as intense or widespread as it was? Can someone enlighten us on this point?

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» Funny how memory works Posted by: jwg
» Real World: Paying for it ... Posted by: AdamSelene40
Tom Waits - On The Road to Peace- " They fill the children full of hate to fight an old man’s war "
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Dec 28, 2006 12:25 PM   
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Tom Waits and the Return of the Political Ballad

Young Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay) was only 18 years old,
He was the youngest of nine children, never spent a night away from home.
And his mother held his photograph, opening the New York Times
To see the killing has intensified along the road to peace

There was a tall, thin boy with a whispy moustache disguised as an orthodox Jew
On a crowded bus in Jerusalem, some had survived World War Two
And the thunderous explosion blew out windows 200 yards away
With more retribution and seventeen dead along the road to peace

Now at King George Ave and Jaffa Road passengers boarded bus 14a
In the aisle next to the driver Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay)
And the last thing that he said on earth is “God is great and God is good”
And he blew them all to kingdom come upon the road to peace

Now in response to this another kiss of death was visited upon
Yasser Taha, Israel says is an Hamas senior militant
And Israel sent four choppers in, flames engulfed, tears wide open
And it killed his wife and his three year old child leaving only blackened skeletons

It’s found his toddlers bottle and a pair of small shoes and they waved them in front of the cameras
But Israel says they did not know that his wife and child were in the car
There are roadblocks everywhere and only suffering on TV
Neither side will ever give up their smallest right along the road to peace

Israel launched it’s latest campaign against Hamas on Tuesday
Two days later Hamas shot back and killed five Israeli soldiers
So thousands dead and wounded on both sides most of them middle eastern civilians
They fill the children full of hate to fight an old man’s war and die upon the road to peace

“And this is our land we will fight with all our force” say the Palastinians and the Jews
Each side will cut off the hand of anyone who tries to stop the resistance
If the right eye offends thee then you must pluck it out
And Mahmoud Abbas said Sharon had been lost out along the road to peace

Once Kissinger said “we have no friends, America only has interests”
Now our president wants to be seen as a hero and he’s hungry for re-election
But Bush is reluctant to risk his future in the fear of his political failures
So he plays chess at his desk and poses for the press 10,000 miles from the road to peace

In the video that they found at the home of Abdel Mahdi (Shahmay)
He held a Kalashnikov rifle and he spoke with a voice like a boy
He was an excellent student, he studied so hard, it was as if he had a future
He told his mother that he had a test that day out along the road to peace

The fundamentalist killing on both sides is standing in the path of peace
But tell me why are we arming the Israeli army with guns and tanks and bullets?
And if God is great and God is good why can’t he change the hearts of men?
Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
Maybe God himself is lost and needs help
He’s out upon the road to peace

Well maybe God himself is lost and needs help
Maybe God himself he needs all of our help
And he’s lost upon the road to peace
And he’s lost upon the road to peace
Out upon the road to peace.

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Antiwar songs abundant on YouTube
Posted by: toddboyle on Dec 28, 2006 5:19 PM   
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If you're between 50 and 60 these will tear your heart out.
We were right. And the pain has been buried so long.

Marvin Gaye What's Goin on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KC7uhMY9s

Country Joe McDonald - I Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqOCXDhOSp4

Buffy St Marie wrote it. 1970 Universal Soldier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5FcPpHbIKg
Buffy St Marie 1970 concert Vancouverf BC Universal Soldier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKGQoWgFYCk

Cat Stevens - Peace Train 1970s recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6bIDn0_4B0
Cat Stevens - Peace Train Live (Excellent Quality)1976
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enrVNOKQmH0

John Lennon. Give Peace a Chance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKopu5hESbk
john lennon - imagine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj8LR25HeJA
A Hard Rains a gonna fall- Baez Operation Ceasefire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufiPc7yD5c
Wooden Ships- CrosbyStills Nash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rG2ME4sAc
San Franciscan Nights - the animals 1967
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX-yDColyO4
Toronto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqqj2fpS7pc
I had a dream last night =Joss Stone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dUCnxcGPEU
Ben Gibbard - Military Madness (Graham Nash Cover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BExr5avRIf0
Woodstock - Joni Mitchell in London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVpRzGylwwc
Eddie Vedder's rendition of Dylan's "Masters of War" 1993
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8GHBk_HSXg
and 2004 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh_LEny9IIc
Billy Bragg - The Price of Oil - 10/22/02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjAhlh23zPM
Biko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLg-8Jxi5aE
Where have all the FLowers gone-Baez 2005 Operation Ceasefire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKvdPsnkPC0
I aint marchin anymore: Phil Ochs
long http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5pgrKSwFJE
short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAzm2juo7oc
Pete Seeger: Bring em Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ROwKFfC244
Bob Dylan in a 1964 concert, Times they are a Changing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPrCdL_Oc2A&NR

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Let the Rambo Republicans Find Out What's Going On First Hand
Posted by: Thomas Mendip on Dec 29, 2006 8:37 AM   
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Draft them.
The curious part is that the current system of a volunteer, professional army was intended to prevent another Vietnam.
One argument to explain the phenomenal cluster fuck that was Vietnam was the proposition that a large, standing army with no particular mission to perform will invent one for itself. The American military had tamed the nasty Russian bear in Europe, the then fashionable boogey man, had enormous power at its disposal and really had little to do but hang around Europe and make sure those rotten Ruskies stayed put. That’s a bit simplistic, given that it was the civilian, and less the military, advisors to Johnson and Nixon who got us into and kept us in that dreary mess. Still, with such huge assets at their disposal, they had little reason to reign in their absurdist terror of a Commie dominated Asia. We had a huge army, and if we needed more, we just sent out the call for more; and, to be blunt about it, we could blithely sacrifice them because they were young men, a class of people about which we never have cared much, which is why we throw them away in wars.
By the time it became obvious that 58,000 was perhaps too large a number with which to be cavalier, plans for a volunteer army were formulated. A volunteer army was intended to make it more difficult to go to war; the standing force would be smaller and when needed, utilize much more extensively reserves and national guard units. It was thought that a smaller force comprised of older soldiers (the average age of a soldier in WWI was 27; in Vietnam, 19) would be a more effective force; but more importantly, its comparatively small size and the obvious disruptive effect of calling up Reserves would force a leader to consider far more carefully the expenditure of military assets.
It was a great theory, but if I may borrow a quote from Asimov, who was borrowing from Voltaire ( I think), “Against stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain.” Dubya blundered this so badly, we’ll looking back on it in 30 years the way we now look back on Vietnam and ask, “How the hell could we have been that stupid?”
Well, a little idiocy goes a long way, and there’s enough to go around; it wasn’t just Dubya, but the 59 million dimwits who gave him the power that deserve to wear the dunce hat.
Which gives some credence to the argument that only a draft will impact the public sufficiently to cause them to remove their heads from their rectal orifices and make contact with reality. When little Johnnie’s pink ass is on the line, even a soccer mom would sit up and take notice. (Logically, it should be little Janie’s ass as well, but let’s get serious here—Dubya’s got two daughters, and those little cupcakes will never see the inside of combat fatigues!!)
As someone whose lottery number was 5, I would never have thought that I could possibly support a draft. But who could have possibly anticipated the cosmic stupidity of Dubya and his lackeys?

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"What's Goin' On"...Not Just an Anti-War Song
Posted by: Kym525 on Dec 29, 2006 1:41 PM   
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Marvin Gaye wasn't just talking about the Vietnam war in this classic song, but also the civil rights and women's rights marches. He was talking about prejudice and inequality. He was writing about the turbulent era he lived in as a black man demanding respect and dignity from a country that grudgingly was forced to change:

"Mother, mother - everybody thinks we're wrong
Oh but who are they to judge us
Simply 'cause our hair is long?"

Isn't it sad but telling that a song written thirty-something years ago still rings true?

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Robert K Turner Jr
Posted by: kunnaway on Dec 31, 2006 11:18 AM   
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I was in Vietnam back in 65-68 and after I got over there and the more I was over there the stupider I though it was being over there I knew we were losing and knew we couldn't win. Then I wondered why the hell were we over there freedom my ass we were over there cause of all these damn POLITICIONS and thats all it was a new way to try out new weapons that sucked. Now they have sent us to another Vietnam where we can't win so bring them home.

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Christmas in Washington
Posted by: sasquuatch55 on Dec 31, 2006 3:19 PM   
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Christmas in Washington by Steve Earle is another good one

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