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Bush Fears War Crimes Prosecution and Impeachment

By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted September 11, 2006.


As the election season rolls around, Bush is doing everything he can to avoid a Dem sweep in the House of Congress - or else he might be impeached.

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With great fanfare, George W. Bush announced to a group of carefully selected 9/11 families yesterday that he had finally decided to send Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and 13 other alleged terrorists to Guantánamo Bay, where they will be tried in military commissions. After nearly five years of interrogating these men, why did Bush choose this moment to bring them to "justice"?

Bush said his administration had "largely completed our questioning of the men" and complained that "the Supreme Court's recent decision has impaired our ability to prosecute terrorists through military commissions and has put in question the future of the CIA program."

He was referring to Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, in which the high court recently held that Bush's military commissions did not comply with the law. Bush sought to try prisoners in commissions they could not attend with evidence they never see, including hearsay and evidence obtained by coercion.

The Court also determined that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions applies to al Qaeda detainees. That provision of Geneva prohibits "outrages upon personal dignity" and "humiliating and degrading treatment."

Bush called on Congress to define these "vague and undefined" terms in Common Article 3 because "our military and intelligence personnel" involved in capture and interrogation "could now be at risk of prosecution under the War Crimes Act."

Congress enacted the War Crimes Act in 1996. That act defines violations of Geneva's Common Article 3 as war crimes. Those convicted face life imprisonment or even the death penalty if the victim dies.

The President is undoubtedly familiar with the doctrine of command responsibility, where commanders, all the way up the chain of command to the commander in chief, can be held liable for war crimes their inferiors commit if the commander knew or should have known they might be committed and did nothing to stop or prevent them.

Bush defensively denied that the United States engages in torture and foreswore authorizing it. But it has been well-documented that policies set at the highest levels of our government have resulted in the torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of U.S. prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo.

Indeed, Congress passed the Detainee Treatment Act in December, which codifies the prohibition in United States law against cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment of prisoners in U.S. custody. In his speech yesterday, Bush took credit for working with Senator John McCain to pass the DTA.

In fact, Bush fought the McCain "anti-torture" amendment tooth-and-nail, at times threatening to veto the entire appropriations bill to which it was appended. At one point, Bush sent Dick Cheney to convince McCain to exempt the CIA from the prohibition on cruel treatment, but McCain refused.

Bush signed the bill, but attached a "signing statement" where he reserved the right to violate the DTA if, as commander-in-chief, he thought it necessary.

Throughout his speech, Bush carefully denied his administration had violated any laws during its "tough" interrogations of prisoners. Yet, the very same day, the Pentagon released a new interrogation manual that prohibits techniques including "waterboarding," which amounts to torture.

Before the Supreme Court decided the Hamdan case, the Pentagon intended to remove any mention of Common Article 3 from its manual. The manual had been the subject of revision since the Abu Ghraib torture photographs came to light.

But in light of Hamdan, the Pentagon was forced to back down and acknowledge the dictates of Common Article 3.

Bush also seeks Congressional approval for his revised military commissions, which reportedly contain nearly all of the objectionable features of his original ones.

The President's speech was timed to coincide with the beginning of the traditional post-Labor Day period when Congress focuses on the November elections. The Democrats reportedly stand a good chance of taking back one or both houses of Congress. Bush fears impeachment if the Democrats achieve a majority in the House of Representatives.

By challenging Congress to focus on legislation about treatment of terrorists -- which he called "urgent" -- Bush seeks to divert the election discourse away from his disastrous war on Iraq.

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Marjorie Cohn is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, president-elect of the National Lawyers Guild, and the US representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists.

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Traitors
Posted by: edhowes on Sep 11, 2006 1:02 PM   
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look at a likely scenario. We know when Al Qaeda has chosen a target in America, they persist until it is destroyed. World Trade Center 1993 and 2001. The national capitol 2001 and? Security has tightened sufficiently so the next attack on the capitol will be different than the last, as with the Trade Center.

The report on NOW demonstrates a close relationship between Pakistan and Al Qaeda. Pakistan has growing nuclear capability and it is reasonable to assume Al Qaeda has proved itself worthy to share in this capability. While it may be a bit more difficult to move nuclear devices within striking distance of the Capitol, it is far from impossible. Any number of nuclear weapons could be brought in with regular drug shipments, made possible by the great war on drugs fraud.

The lesson of Waco, Texas and Ruby Ridge, Idaho was to fear the government's ability to make war on the people. The lesson of Oklahoma City and September 11, is that government can’t or won't protect the people or itself. Fear increases all around and affects every aspect of American life. That fear not only allows an expansion of government and government power, it demands the increase as national security.

The escape of 8,000 Al Qaeda does nothing to increase security anywhere. Anything the President has said about national security since November, 2001 is suspect. There is no doubt national government is growing like a cancer. Yet, if Al Qaeda succeeds in destroying the Capitol, especially a nuclear destruction, would any American see it as a successful radiation treatment? Can surviving America rest easier because the Capitol was the target and not the rest of us? Will Congress deserve such a fate because it did nothing when the President substantially decreased the entire national security?

As I write this, I have heard reports that U.S. forces are closing in on Al Qaeda near the Pakistani border. Will they capture or kill the 8,000 freed in November, 2001? Or will most of them slip away with Pakistani assistance? The answer to this question should tell us much about the so-called war on terrorism. Personally, I expect it to be business as usual and hope I am wrong.

To add some balance to all this, I want to point out that we could consider the escape of November, 2001 a case of a Christian President loving his enemies, as the Bible instructs. Could we be witnessing the beginnings of New Age warfare here? Will there be any gratitude among the 8,000 who were and are ready to die for their beliefs? Will they be satisfied with the destruction of their next primary target? Or will they continue until America is one of the least powerful nations in the world? Would that be a bad thing? Could it be necessary to world peace? Fear or not, these are truly exciting times.

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Soldier footage: a key to tribunals for imperialists
Posted by: dgiVista.org on Sep 11, 2006 1:16 AM   
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In May 2006 I taped a show on A&E called the Marines of Lima company, a group of reservists called up to Iraq.

It was interesting. I watched a group of guys approach their time in Iraq like a video game: kicking in doors, shooting all over the place, taking digital video of fire fights and APCs hitting mines. Then when the bodies started piling up, the reality set in.

It was a great piece in that it showed the human side of war from the viewpoint of Lima survivors and families' views of the value of their dead soldiers' deaths.

But one thing that was astonishing to me is the technology that liberates the media, that empowers front line patrol soldiers to take video of what they are doing.

Even more astonishing is how much mainstream corporate media doesn't broadcast this stuff. Documentaries like this one did, but there must be thousands of hours of authentic first hand video still out there, beyond the stills of Iraqi prison torture, that hopefully will surface in the coming months as the w.Caesar imperialists lose their own cover and hopefully face tribunals for their immoral, Geneva Conventions are quaint, empire ways.

dgiVista.org

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criminal
Posted by: rsaxto on Sep 11, 2006 1:54 AM   
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The shit of truth and reality is about to hit the fans of the Bushies' criminal faces. If we can get a free and unfettered impeachment process under way after successful Democrat gains in the Congress, then we will be able to be free at last from war crimes and war criminals. It will be a pleasure to become a proud American instead of a disgusted and fearful American.

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Video show's why we need to hold them accountable
Posted by: Rshaw on Sep 11, 2006 2:47 AM   
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It feels like we are being subjected to a revisionist history on 9-11

Check out this new short online video called "The Best War Ever" on how our government propaganda machine tries to keep us not only in Iraq but convince us Iran and Syria maybe good ideas too.



Found out about this from a COA News Alert

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Guantánamo Bay
Posted by: Abushite on Sep 11, 2006 3:48 AM   
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GWB detained in Guantánamo Bay, that would be justice.
Let him and his kind rot in the wire, no other place for the scum of the earth .

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» RE: Guantánamo Bay Posted by: snarlah
» RE: Guantánamo Bay Posted by: willymack
One thing is for sure, America is complacent and guilty too
Posted by: mat38 on Sep 11, 2006 4:12 AM   
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If Bush is a war criminal then so is most of the United States for supporting him. The Marines and Army whose soldiers have been commmitting atrocities that are as worse as any in all contexts of human warfare, the Air Force pilots dropping bombs on civilians are gulty too.
Who will pay for these crimes agianst humanity? Well, Germany paid dearly with destruction of its eneitre nation by allied forces. Probably terrorists will never forget what we've done in Iraq, and Gaza, Lebanon, and maybe Iran and Syria if e-voting machines onece again deflect our right to choose our government representatives.
America is going to pay and the ret of the world will shrig its shoulders and say hey, you get reap what you sow.
Bush behind bars is not good enough. He and his Neocons must be tried before a world court, judged, and if found guilty, executed.

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Scare Tactics
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 11, 2006 4:42 AM   
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One of the GOP scare tactics these days is the clever use of this line: "If the democrats take over the house and senate, they'll impeach the president"! Now ask yourselves this question: Just why the hell are they saying that?? During the mid term elections of 1982 and 1986, I don't recall ANYONE calling for the impeachment of Ronald Reagan, do you? Even in 1987, during the hight of the Iran/Contra debacle, was the subject even seriously considered - in spite of mountains of evidence to the effect that the dirty old bastard should have been removed! During the midterm contest of 1990, do you remember anyone (with the exception of your truly demanding the impeachment of King George the First? Of course you don't.

Then why would the republicans even raise the specticle of removing the First Fool by means of a perfectly legitimate constitutional process if there wasn't a shitload of evidence - serious, in-your-face, tangible proof - that the president and the vice-president should be prosecuted and hauled off to federal prison for the rest of their fucking lives for their crimes against humanity in general and the people of Iraq in particular.

Eight years ago, a cabal of hot headed, half witted reactionaries in the House and Senate came close to removing a sitting, duly elected chief executive for lying about something that was no one's buisness but his own. When are these contemptable jackasses going to realize that the transgressions of Bill Clinton are a mere pinprick when placed in juxtaposition with the George W. Bush bloodbath?.

Am I missing anything here?

If I were a republican (Yes, I know that that streches the imagination to the breaking point but bear with me here) I would stop raising the possibility of impeachment to try and "scare" people. As each day goes by, it's starting to look like a pretty good idea to more and more people.

Pray for peace.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» Sure would be nice Posted by: WhuThe?!?
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Hilarious! The Democrats won't impeach Bush any more than the GOP impeached Clinton
Posted by: rebel_pig on Sep 11, 2006 4:57 AM   
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Yes, the HOUSE impeached CLinton, but the senate did not try him.

And although it is possible that a Democratic House might impeach Bush, the Senate, even if it went Demcratic in November, would not try Bush.

The Dems and GOP Senators really are not opponents, but are colleagues. They are not going to hurt each other.

You misunderstand the nature of human society and what the Senate is. Senators are the elite of America. They are not about to betray each other just to appease you.

Read about how James Madison designed the Senate and Presidency to thwart the will of the American people here in this online book.

The Senators will never betray one of the their class, and the president is one of their own class. You and I are not.

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» I see your point, but Posted by: WhuThe?!?
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Making The Case For Impeachment
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 11, 2006 5:11 AM   
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Please, if you have the time today, Read my piece, A Strong Case For Impeachment.

Cheers!
Tom Degan

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The filthy, stinking rich own the country
Posted by: snarlah on Sep 11, 2006 6:33 AM   
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And the world. I agree with your assessment almost entirely. There are a handful of Democrats who I would actually trust with my life, but most of them are DLC by now, and that means corporate, and that means wealthy, and that means they don't care what their constituents think. But they might try Bush just because he's made their lives a living hell for over 5 years.

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Slim chance of impeachment or reform.
Posted by: shangrilalad on Sep 11, 2006 6:35 AM   
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Do you doubt Republicans will commit more crimes to cover up their past crimes?

If you believe Republicans rigged the 2000 and 2004 elections, do you think they will not rig the 2006 election?

The chances of Bush being impeached if Democrats take the House are nil, but if Republicans think there is any chance at all, what won’t they do to cover their ass? They are all just as guilty as Bush is, and they will burn America to the ground before they go down.

Our system of government is totally corrupt, and most of our leaders have worked diligently to make it so. Few of them seek office to serve their country, most enter government to get rich or to get richer quicker. They all crave wealth and power and expecting them to reform government is delusional. They can not and will not reform a system that has served them so well.

Most people will submit to tyranny rather than confront it. They are afraid to risk what they have for fear of losing all. Our leaders (mostly lawyers) have tied our government into knots to enhance their power and to exploit the masses for their own personal gain. The only way to establish democracy is to cut through the knots of convoluted laws they have devised to protect themselves.

A majority of Americans are no where near the point where they will risk all in hopes of building a better tomorrow.

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It's hard to take responsibility for the crimes of the Bushies
Posted by: snarlah on Sep 11, 2006 6:41 AM   
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If you're a life-long Democrat with socialist leanings, it's very hard to say that we get the government we deserve. Maybe that's true as a very general statement, but it's certainly not true for me, my family and my friends. We didn't vote for those Republicans and we want them removed from office and tried as war criminals and anything else that can be done to them legally.

Not that they have any respect for the law, but we are fighting hard to maintain ours. It seems amazing to me that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice can get up and reveal the lies they've told as if it were just a little joke to be a fascist and still nothing happens to them.

If computer-hacking election fraud is allowed to continue, we won't be getting a Democratic majority in Congress in November, no matter how many people vote for Democrats.

On Sept. 19, Bush plans to go to the UN to announce his intention to drop a couple of "tactical" nukes on Iran, just to show who's boss. To anyone who doesn't think that this will poison the air throughout the world and will only be a localized action with "small" nukes, I wish you a lot of luck. Myself, I'm not going to wait around to die of radiation poisoning if I know it's coming my way.

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Vann Wilson
Posted by: Vann on Sep 11, 2006 7:00 AM   
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The militarys role isn't rebuilding countries the militarys oath is to protect and defend our Constitution agstance all enemies foreighn and domestic but knowone mentions abideing by the Constitution anymore, Just last night the General at Gitmo bay stated that we will have to give up some of out liberty/rights in the socalled war on terrior, He is more of a threat to our way of life that the terriost are. the Chief prosicuter for the Nazis said that Bush needs to be tried for war crimes

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Why not torture Cheney
Posted by: cold2touch on Sep 11, 2006 7:02 AM   
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until he tells the truth about hyping Iraq war, PNAC, 9/11, Energy Task Force, no bid contracts to Halliburton and others, illegal wiretaps, Valerie Plame and a whole bunch of other steamy intrigue, lies and machinations.

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Isn't it strange....
Posted by: jlohman on Sep 11, 2006 7:55 AM   
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Can you imagine bin Laden being hampered by his Supreme Court or left wing? He'd just have them beheaded!

There are some issues the left wing should win on, but this is not one of them. We should not be protecting the terrorists "rights." We should give them the same ones they give their victims. I dislike Bush, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt when trying to protect my family. He can monitor my calls as much as he wants to.

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» RE: Isn't it strange.... Posted by: jimbobuddy
» It isn't strange. Posted by: 4sense
» No doubt. Posted by: Artkansas
» Monitor your calls so you will be safer? Posted by: chief of okeefe
» Silly Posted by: Jeanne
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» RE: Isn't it strange.... Posted by: blitzmesser
Bu$hco must be quakin' in its boots . . .
Posted by: JCR on Sep 11, 2006 8:04 AM   
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"As the election season rolls around, Bush is doing everything he can to avoid a Dem sweep in the House of Congress - or else he might be impeached."

For the love of god people - does anyone actually believe Bush will be impeached let alone tried for war crimes? This is what America has come to? We now have to wait for control of the House and Senate to pass to the Dems before we start contemplating impeachment? (which will never happen btw). It is inconceivable that enough Americans, elected officials and otherwise, care enough to do the right thing and kick these criminals out of the White House. The fact that Republicans would never dare impeach Bush (and only a few Dems have the balls to speak up) should suffice in demonstrating that America is lost for good.

We as a people are no longer capable of doing the right thing in a non partisan fashion but rather rely on our corrupt, and nearly as duplicitous, elected Democratic party proxies to get the ball rolling? We all know what is happening is wrong yet little has been done on a grass roots level to impeach Bush - and don't tell me a few petition drives equals a movement. There have been very few large scale protests despite lots of blustering and threats. Yeah - things are magically going to fix themselves with the Dems in control - dream on!

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ECLECTICIST, S+ JIM+ RODRIGUEZ
Posted by: SJR505 on Sep 11, 2006 9:31 AM   
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"...FEAR NOT, GEORGE W(WEASEL) BUSH - AKA , SILVERFOOT..." TOO MANY GIRLIE -MEN/WOMEN IN THE 535 CLASS OF CRIMINALS IN BOTH PARTIES - RE=PUG-NICANS AND COWARD-CRATS" TO INITIATE THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS, TODAY, TOMORROW, AND UNTIL THE ENDS OF TIME...

THESE CLASS ACT MEMBERS OF OUR CONGRESS ARE NOT STEALING FROM THE "PROVERBIAL COOKIE JAR" ,BUT LEGALLY, OUTRIGHT FROM THE U.S. TREASURY ALA JACK SNOW , "THE STEALING RANGER" ...THAT'S THE INJURY, BUT TO DO IT BLATANTLY IN FRONT OF GOD AND COUNTRY, DAY OR NIGHT, IN ENGLISH OR SPANISH, WITH THE WEASEL AT THE FRONT OF THE "HANDOUT LINE...", THATS INSULT...TALK ABOUT 'WELFARE", WHAT DO ONE CALL THIS PROCESS...???
G-R-E-E-D....G-R-E-E-D, AND MORE G-R-E-E-D..., THE CURRENT ADMINISTARATION'S MANTRA- MONEY, MONEY, AND MORE MONEY...

THE WEASEL , LIKE THE PROVERBIAL BRIDE, KNOWS IT IS GOING TO BE HARD, BUT DOESN'T KNOW HOW LONG ITS GOING TO BE....BUT DON'T STOP FOR IMPEACHMENT, BUT ASKED FOR ALL THE CLEAN AND DIRTY LAUNDRY OF THE WEASEL'S LIES AND MISREPRESENTATIONS ...TRY HIM FOR THE WAR CRIMES AND USE THE SEC INVESTIGATIONS AND FINDINGS OF HIS CORRUPT PRACTICES FOUND IN FILE NUMBER. MHO-3180, IF THERE IS ANY DATA LEFT AFTER SOMEONE OR SOME CRONIES HAVEN'T PURGED ALL THE LIVE PIECES OF INCRMINATING DATA...
INCIDENTALLY, OUR SCIENTISTS ARE STILL WORKING ON A CLEANSING PRODUCT TO ERADICATE ALL THE "CACA "AND ITS RESIDUAL MATTER FROM CORRUPT HUMAN POLITICIANS... IT APPEARS THAT THE RESIDUAL ONLY STICKS TO CORRUPTED POLITICIANS...MAYBE THEY WILL CALL IT "CC' AKA : "CACA CLEANSER...THINK ABOUT THE MARKETING PR AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MADE AND PURCHASED BY OUR PATRIOTIC THIEVES IN HIGH PLACES...

AGAIN,AGAIN, AND YET AGAIN, THE OLD MILTARY SAYING COMES TO MIND : "...B-O-H-I-C-A..." : BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN....AND , THE BEAT GOES ON...!!!

REMEMBER :

He who loves his life loses it, and he who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. -John 12:25 (Revised Standard Version)

"Character may be manifested in the great moments, but it is made in the small ones." -- Sir Winston Churchill

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.

GEORGE "THE WEASEL' STILL CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "TREASURE AND A TRINKET..." THE DOWNSIDE OF THIS CHAMCO'S THINKING IS THAT WE ARE THE VICTIMS OF HIS PUNATA APPROACH OR HIS EXERCISE IN "'MUTUAL MENTAL MASTURBATION..."

S+JIM=RODRIGUEZ+++ECLECTICIST SEEKER+++

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Subhead of this article is a joke
Posted by: swells on Sep 11, 2006 9:36 AM   
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Democrats impeach Bush? Is anybody really that deluded at this point? The Dems can't even muster the courage to challenge the continued occupation in Iraq even though it is almost universally unpopular.

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Impeachment not really likely
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Sep 11, 2006 11:14 AM   
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Don't get me wrong; impeachment is FULLY justified, and the articles of impeachment could run into the hundreds.

And while I would be absolutely thrilled to see the Democrats take back control of Congress, impeachment is highly unlikely for several (mostly political) reasons.

First; if you impeach Bush you have to impeach Chenney--who, after all, is the real power in this administration; the man behind the curtain who tells the chuckleheaded chimp what to do and say.

Second: So if both Bush and Chenney are impeached and removed from office, who would be next in line of succession?
Assuming that no major shake-up would occur in the Democratic House leadership, that would be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelossi. I'm sure that Ms. Pelossi would make a far better chief executive than either President Stupid or Vice President Evil, but the public perception of the situation would be of a "political coup" with "those !@#$%^&* opportunistic Democrats grabbing power they couldn't win at the ballot box."

The Democrats have to "look responsible" at all costs, which probably means the next two years would be full of tepid, cautious pronouncements about basically unimportant issues, while the Nero of the 21st Century continues to fiddle his disgusting tunes and the world continues to burn.

No, sorry to say, the best we can hope for is a strongly worded motion of censure.

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They Might be Traitors
Posted by: edhowes on Sep 11, 2006 12:59 PM   
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A nation at war with itself cannot stand. He speaks of American justice and points us to evil while he cuts deals with nuclear armed devils. A friend of Al Qaeda, he is the Commander-In-Chief of the most powerful military force on planet earth and the man we call President. I know this is true because I heard it on TV.

In November, 2001, just weeks after declaring war on global terrorism, President George Bush and Secretary Donald Rumsfeld assisted some 8,000 members of Al Qaeda and their Pakistani trainers to escape Afghanistan. Three to four hundred members of the U.S. Delta Force had the terrorists surrounded, in their gun sights and can testify they were ordered not to engage.

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh reported this episode on the PBS program, NOW, with Bill Moyers, February 21, 2003. The electronic transcript is available from the PBS Website.

If this report is correct: 1.The war on terrorism is a fraud. 2. President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld have provided aid and comfort to an enemy in wartime. This, I seem to recall, is the definition of high treason, a capital crime for which both men should be executed when properly tried and convicted. 3. President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld should be immediately relieved of office by Congress. This matter needs to be resolved before another American life is lost in a phony war, created to convince the people to trade their liberty for security. Security that cannot be had at any price. Life carries risks that can only be minimized by personal choices, not police power. 4. If Congress refuses to act in this matter, leaving alleged traitors in a position to further destroy lives, they should all be recalled from office by the states.

It is known to American government that Pakistan is a sponsor of and shield to terrorism. General Musharraf is likely a puppet of radical fundamentalists in Pakistan and elsewhere. The economic aid flowing to Pakistan by the billions from American taxpayers, through a treasonous Congress, is used to support Al Qaeda and to provide nuclear weapons to 3rd world powers like North Korea and probably Al Qaeda as well. Pakistan is the capitol of evil and government says, “No, look over here, at Iraq, Iran and North Korea! Pakistan is our nuclear proliferating terrorist friend because we fear them and must support their secular strong man.”

Every member of the U.S. Armed Forces has sworn an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Those members of Delta Force who leaked this story of presidential hypocrisy and treason have done their duty to America and their military brethren. I have no doubt more will come forward, if nothing happens to them, to confirm the treason of November, 2001. When the Commander-In-Chief is a traitor, the soldier is in a very delicate position. He/she can be placed in harm’s way before testimony can be given. These witnesses need protection NOW. Should anything happen to them, we will know that treason has no limit.

Because high treason is a capital crime, it seems there is great reluctance to expose it, like a family secret. No one wants to accuse or try the top leaders of a nation, perhaps the world. Saying and doing nothing makes everyone else complicit in the crime. Even the panel on NOW avoided calling this action a crime. It was portrayed as a political expediency to support secular leadership in Pakistan, General Musharraf.

Questions are then raised concerning future events. Let's

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Democrats Are Too Gutless to Impeach Bush - Most are Pro-War in Iraq "Republicrats"
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Sep 11, 2006 1:12 PM   
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Only a very tiny handful of Democrat Congresspersons/Senators were willing to support John Conyers efforts to impeach Bush. The vast majority of Democrat politicians are gung-ho pro-war in Iraq and far too timid to challenge Bush. The Patriot Act was overwhelmingly renewed with a very small, insignificant number of Democrat politicians protesting it. Democrat politicans have REPEATEDLY voted "yes" to keep funding the war in Iraq. Very few Democrats are protesting Bush's illegal wiretaps, rape of the Constitution and assault on our civil liberties. The Democrat Party has morphed into "Republicrats" - Hillary Clinton is exactly like Joe Lieberman and completely in cahoots with corporate mafia companies accepting HUGE donations from pharmaceuticals, oil industry, defense contractors.

If you are waiting for Democrat politicians to impeach Bush, hell will freeze over before that happens. The only way Bush will be impeached is by nationwide grassroots movement of ordinary citizens pressuring Senate/Congress for impeachment. But frankly, most Americans are extremely lazy and complacent to do this. Despite 75% of citizens against the war in Iraq - and 65% disapproval rating in the polls against Bush - the vast majority of Americans have done NOTHING to kick Bush out of office. I grew up during Vietnam War era and remember enourmous anti-war demonstrations and a citizenry that was involved and cared. Today, although the majority of Americans are disguted with Bush over his absymal behavior during/after Hurricane Katrina, the economy in the dumpster, the elimination of the middle class into a nation of working poor - let's face it - except for a very small percentage of citizens who are activists and go to demonstrations/sign petitions - the vast majority of Americans are just plain too lazy to be politically active and push for Bush's impeachment. Impeachment against Bush will NEVER come from the leadership of the Democrat Party - which is extremely fossilized and has moved to the right and centrist position. "Democrat Lite" and "Bush Lite Democrats" are the majority of Democrat politicans.

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They Might be Traitors
Posted by: edhowes on Sep 11, 2006 1:16 PM   
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A nation at war with itself cannot stand. He speaks of American justice and points us to evil while he cuts deals with nuclear armed devils. A friend of Al Qaeda, he is the Commander-In-Chief of the most powerful military force on planet earth and the man we call President. I know this is true because I heard it on TV.

In November, 2001, just weeks after declaring war on global terrorism, President George Bush and Secretary Donald Rumsfeld assisted some 8,000 members of Al Qaeda and their Pakistani trainers to escape Afghanistan. Three to four hundred members of the U.S. Delta Force had the terrorists surrounded, in their gun sights and can testify they were ordered not to engage.

Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh reported this episode on the PBS program, NOW, with Bill Moyers, February 21, 2003. The electronic transcript is available from the PBS Website.

If this report is correct: 1.The war on terrorism is a fraud. 2. President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld have provided aid and comfort to an enemy in wartime. This, I seem to recall, is the definition of high treason, a capital crime for which both men should be executed when properly tried and convicted. 3. President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld should be immediately relieved of office by Congress. This matter needs to be resolved before another American life is lost in a phony war, created to convince the people to trade their liberty for security. Security that cannot be had at any price. Life carries risks that can only be minimized by personal choices, not police power. 4. If Congress refuses to act in this matter, leaving alleged traitors in a position to further destroy lives, they should all be recalled from office by the states.

It is known to American government that Pakistan is a sponsor of and shield to terrorism. General Musharraf is likely a puppet of radical fundamentalists in Pakistan and elsewhere. The economic aid flowing to Pakistan by the billions from American taxpayers, through a treasonous Congress, is used to support Al Qaeda and to provide nuclear weapons to 3rd world powers like North Korea and probably Al Qaeda as well. Pakistan is the capitol of evil and government says, “No, look over here, at Iraq, Iran and North Korea! Pakistan is our nuclear proliferating terrorist friend because we fear them and must support their secular strong man.”

Every member of the U.S. Armed Forces has sworn an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Those members of Delta Force who leaked this story of presidential hypocrisy and treason have done their duty to America and their military brethren. I have no doubt more will come forward, if nothing happens to them, to confirm the treason of November, 2001. When the Commander-In-Chief is a traitor, the soldier is in a very delicate position. He/she can be placed in harm’s way before testimony can be given. These witnesses need protection NOW. Should anything happen to them, we will know that treason has no limit.

Because high treason is a capital crime, it seems there is great reluctance to expose it, like a family secret. No one wants to accuse or try the top leaders of a nation, perhaps the world. Saying and doing nothing makes everyone else complicit in the crime. Even the panel on NOW avoided calling this action a crime. It was portrayed as a political expediency to support secular leadership in Pakistan, General Musharraf.

Questions are then raised concerning future events. Let's look at a likely scenario.

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"Changes in Platitudes, (no) Changes In Attitudes"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 11, 2006 2:32 PM   
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(with apologies to Jimmy Buffet...)

MIGHT be impeached is the operant word, because I do not believe the Democrats have the cojones to do it, no matter how important it would be to the rule of law and the survival of our democracy. After all, that might threaten their REAL income stream from their corporate benefactors, the actual entities that rule this nation.

Wanna know how everything works? Follow the money...

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start something new and different
Posted by: Gregor on Sep 11, 2006 4:06 PM   
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I think we should start a class of our own: an anti-rich class. Make it very uncool to be rich or have any dealings with the rich. If we sneered at the upper classes (we who are in the majority) as much as they grind us below their feet, we would really make them think, eh?

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the house impeaches, the senate removes from office
Posted by: gerdhansel on Sep 11, 2006 4:57 PM   
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The House of Representatives can impeach with a simple majority vote, but the Senate must convict and remove from office with a two-thirds vote.

Andrew Johnson was impeached by the House, but his conviction in the Senate fell one vote short. Read all about this in "Profiles in Courage" by JFK.

Bill Clinton was impeached by the House, but the Republican Senate failed to convict by several votes.

No way the Democrats will obtain a two-thirds majority in the Senate come Novem