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Why White People Are Afraid

By Robert Jensen, AlterNet. Posted June 7, 2006.


What do white people have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? Their own fears.
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The Heart of Whiteness, by Robert Jensen (City Lights, 2006).

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It may seem self-indulgent to talk about the fears of white people in a white-supremacist society. After all, what do white people really have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? It may be self-indulgent, but it's critical to understand because these fears are part of what keeps many white people from confronting ourselves and the system.

The first, and perhaps most crucial, fear is that of facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned. It's a truism that we don't really make it on our own; we all have plenty of help to achieve whatever we achieve. That means that some of what we have is the product of the work of others, distributed unevenly across society, over which we may have little or no control individually. No matter how hard we work or how smart we are, we all know -- when we are honest with ourselves -- that we did not get where we are by merit alone. And many white people are afraid of that fact.

A second fear is crasser: White people's fear of losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable. That fear is not completely irrational; if white privilege -- along with the other kinds of privilege many of us have living in the middle class and above in an imperialist country that dominates much of the rest of the world -- were to evaporate, the distribution of resources in the United States and in the world would change, and that would be a good thing. We would have less. That redistribution of wealth would be fairer and more just. But in a world in which people have become used to affluence and material comfort, that possibility can be scary.

A third fear involves a slightly different scenario -- a world in which non-white people might someday gain the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized. One hears this constantly in the conversation about immigration, the lingering fear that somehow "they" (meaning not just Mexican-Americans and Latinos more generally, but any non-white immigrants) are going to keep moving to this country and at some point become the majority demographically.

Even though whites likely can maintain a disproportionate share of wealth, those numbers will eventually translate into political, economic, and cultural power. And then what? Many whites fear that the result won't be a system that is more just, but a system in which white people become the minority and could be treated as whites have long treated non-whites. This is perhaps the deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?

A final fear has probably always haunted white people but has become more powerful since the society has formally rejected overt racism: The fear of being seen, and seen-through, by non-white people. Virtually every white person I know, including white people fighting for racial justice and including myself, carries some level of racism in our minds and hearts and bodies. In our heads, we can pretend to eliminate it, but most of us know it is there. And because we are all supposed to be appropriately anti-racist, we carry that lingering racism with a new kind of fear: What if non-white people look at us and can see it? What if they can see through us? What if they can look past our anti-racist vocabulary and sense that we still don't really know how to treat them as equals? What if they know about us what we don't dare know about ourselves? What if they can see what we can't even voice?


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Robert Jensen is a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin. He is the author of, most recently, The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism and White Privilege (City Lights Books), from which this essay is excerpted.

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Good Piece
Posted by: alternateview on Jun 7, 2006 12:50 AM   
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I don't believe there are a lot of people who believe what Jensen has written, but it is true. There is that fear. It will become more pronounced when jobs get outsourced. White privilege will soon become a by-gone idea of the Baby Boomer generation. This doesn't mean there will be justice or equity. It just means Whites can't simply maintain positions of power forever. It is too fragile.

Ironically, one has to be a tenured (tenured track) professor in a somewhat cushy job to confess such a fear. Even the notion of tenured and who is rewarded those privileges will one day be questioned. The world is changing.

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Third Wave
Posted by: SBK on Jun 7, 2006 1:26 AM   
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Great piece! But this has little to do with me and my younger friends who have grown up in a world that has taught us from day one equality is real and possible. Professors like Jensen have reared a generation of students who are post-civil rights and honestly, do not have the left over lingering racism. We never had it in the first place; many of us were schooled as anti-racist allies from the start. Boomers need to remember that while white 40 somethings may have this problem, many of us 30 and under do not. Our consternation comes from knowing since we were kids institutional racism exists and realizing how long it will take to get rid of it. Fear? Only that the project won't be completed before something really bad happens to derail it--looks at the blazing lack of racial analysis in the immigration discussion!

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You stereotype whites by attributing the attributes of the overclass to ordinary whites.
Posted by: cry0fan on Jun 7, 2006 1:44 AM   
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Let's see if we can somehow tease out the subtextual propaganda buried oh so deep in this article, written by a member of the upper class, a journalism professor. Now, it might hard to figure out the subtle underlying message the author is trying to pass on to us, so I have emphasized with BOLD font some key words. So very subtle!
Here are the excerpts from the article, with my responses:


Why White People Are Afraid

talk about the fears of white people in a white-supremacist society.


It is an OVERCLASS supremecist society. There are more white people at the top because there are more white people, period. And white people get along better with other white people, just like black people get along better with other black people. It's called SUBCULTURE. And getting to the top means getting along real well with other people at the top. So, guess what, genius? The largest group is disproportionately represented at the top. But let me guess? You wanna take it all out on middle class and lower class white Americans, right? How did I EVER guess?

Let's read some more of this overclass propagnda!

After all, what do white people really have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege?


Ummm...dying from lack of healthcare?


to understand because these fears
....
crucial, fear is that of facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned.

Speak for yourself.


many white people are afraid of that fact.

A second fear is crasser: White people's fear of losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable.


You want equity? How about we take a bunch of money from your overclass masters and give it to the bottom half? But let me guess--instead of doing that, you wanna make white people at the bottom take the brunt of the race crimes of the overclass? How did I EVER guess?

That fear

white privilege

imperialist country that dominates


You mean the privilege of working our asses off while europe takes 2 months off per year, with universal healthcare and social welfare state security?


A third fear ....the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized.


You confuse the overclass with whites in general. You are STEREOTYPING.

the lingering fear

whites likely can maintain a disproportionate share of wealth,



Again, just because whites on AVERAGE have more wealth, does not mean that ALL whites are wealthy.


Many whites fear
deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?


Again here we see a core tenet of the PseudoLeft created by the Overclass billions that have been used to generate propaganda via nonprofits--the idea that whites are somehow incorrigibly EVIL.

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White Fears????
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 7, 2006 1:53 AM   
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This is an argument that I've been making for years: THE FEARS OF WHITE PEOPLE???? Are you kidding me? The only thing that we white prople need to be seriously afraid of is ourselves (well...OK...and Condi Rice). Who is doing more damage to our culture? Five black kids getting off of a subway in Bedford Sty at 12 midnight or five middle aged white men getting out of a limousine at Irving Trust at 12 noon? White fears? WHITE FEARS???? I need an asprin.

I couldn't even imagine how absolutely terrifying it is must be to live as an African American in this hideous culture. When are we going to wake up and realize that white people can only be as secure as society as a whole! Whites won't be free of fear until blacks are free of fear. This isn't rocket science, kiddies! It's called "Sociology 101"

We have made alot of progress in this country in my lifetime (I was born in 1958). I was just looking the other day at the liner notes of an old Dick Grergory album that I have, circa 1959, where he is actually referred to as the "negro comedian" I mean, can you imagine? It was well intentioned but it's a laugh riot to read now. But as much progress as we've made in the last 45 years, the job isn't, as many believe, over. In fact, it's barely begun. Let's get cooking!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Degan's Daily Rant
http://tomdegan.blogspot.com/

PS - To DISSIDENTPOET: You gave me some heartfelt, constructive and surprisingly gentle criticism a few days ago with regard of my use of the term "house n****r with respect (or lack thereof) to Dr. Rice. I'll tone it down in the future. It's just that this Bush crowd gets me a tad testy at times. Forgive me for taking this long to respond but I only read your post this morning.
Cheers!
Tom

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The Destructive Pathology of White Privilege
Posted by: brownboytokyo on Jun 7, 2006 2:37 AM   
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here is a great video, the fear is a a destructive element for the
priviledged race even if inviduals themselves are not priviledged.
based on this fear, they are causing more damage to themsleves
while voting against their own interests as an economic class.
excellent video, i urge all of you to watch. http://tinyurl.com/dmx35

dumb article.
Posted by: EasterBunny on Jun 7, 2006 2:59 AM   
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dumbest line from a dumb article

"It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?"

capable?, you got to be kidding, spend 2 seconds reading history and you'll see that every group is capable of barbaric acts. do ya really think that europeans are the only ones who ever oppressed anyone? whatever "depravity" lives in the hearts of whites is there in everyone else too, it's just a matter of having the power to get away with it.

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truth in race
Posted by: rsaxto on Jun 7, 2006 3:56 AM   
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We are finally receiving some truth in race from many Americans of differing backgrounds. The whole truth is still a long ways off but we are slowly getting there. It is comforting to read these various racial viewpoints, a comfort that was totally absent when I was a teen because racism then was overt and disgusting. Progress in multicultural understanding is probably our most important product.

Excellent article!
Posted by: Lizmv on Jun 7, 2006 4:20 AM   
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It is so good to read an honest article like this.
The War on Terror is a racist reaction to white fear. Another poster ststed that there are more whites than non-whites. True in the US and Europe, who economically dominate. However, the Third World is actualy the Two-thirds World. Two-thirds of the Earth's population are non-white. And that population is starting to empower itself. Look at what is happening in South America. 80% of the population is now governed by elected social democratic governments. It is not suprising that the US is very afraid of Chevaz, a non-white.
The 9/11 attack on the US was an attack on the military-industrial complex that enforces racism and drains the resources that rightly belong to non-whites. Attacking the World Trade Center and the Pentagon is so obviously symbolic!
As a half-black friend of mine said "When the white man has had his foot on the neck of the black man for so long, he is too afraid to remove that foot. The white man knows that the minute he does, the black man is going to fight back and rightly so."

White fear is very real and needs to be brought out in the open and dealt with. I often hear progressives bemoaning the fact that the progressive movement is not diversified. Well, people of color KNOW all about white fear. They experience it on a daily basis.

I do recommend Arnold Mindell's excellent book 'Sitting in the Fire'.

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Our privilege is a public trust
Posted by: pgj on Jun 7, 2006 4:34 AM   
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It is undeniable that, as European-Americans, many of us have accumulated over many generations a family legacy of education, property, assertive self-confidence, and political power: In a word, privilege. People like us have built a political, economic, and legal structure that is strongly tilted in favor of us retaining that privilege.
After my ancestors came to this continent in the early 1600s, we dispossesed other people and farmed their land, starting in New England and ending in my grandfather's generation in Montana. My family has been the benficiaries of affirmative action for almost 400 years.
In the meantime, other people were stolen from themselves, enslaved, their family structures and cultural traditions distroyed, and forced to create wealth for their masters. While my ancestors may not have owned slaves (though they may have helped to transhipped some), I cannot deny that my family's relative privilege benefited from their labor and their submission. If nothing else, the laws that Congress made--and continues to make--that benefit people of privilege are debated and passed in a building constructed by slaves. I cannot deny that my children are further ahead than others in the race for a comfortable life because of my family's accumulated social advantage.
What is a white American of conscience to do with his privilege? That, to me, is a key question. Impoverishing myself and paying personal reparations for slavery and the devestation of native Americans would do little to add social advantage to those groups descendants.
I believe that a moral response to my privilege is to view it as something that I hold in trust. If I have greater wealth than others, I have an obligation to use it for the benefit of everyone--even if that means acting against my own financial advantage. I have an obligation to use my relatively greater social and political power in a conscious fashion to benefit the relatively powerless. I also have a distinct obligation to actively support effective affirmative action to help the descendants of those who have been held up to catch up.

» Where did they get that dough? Posted by: YogiBear
IMO
Posted by: latisha1903 on Jun 7, 2006 5:26 AM   
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Sometimes the most you can hope for is simple acknowledgement.

I can't be color blind.
Posted by: LMNOP on Jun 7, 2006 5:40 AM   
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I am a white male, and I have no overt or malicious racial prejudice. But like everyone else, as the author suggests, there is a lingering racist element that keeps me always aware of somebody's color and whether it is the same or different from mine just as I notice if the person is a male or female. It is impossible for me to be color blind or to view people of color the same as white people.

But paradoxically, and I think that this may be a common phenomenon, I am MORE TOLERANT of people of color than white people, and I do the same thing with women even though I don't think that that is fair either. I am less quick to judgment or anger, and I realize that this is a type of racism as well. I don't discriminate against people of color (in fact, I discriminate in their behalf), but I 'm sure that I'm patronizing them somewhat as well.

I can find no way out of this conundrum because I am simply unable to be color blind. I would rather be patronizing than afraid or hateful, so I have settled on my present mindset which some would call white guilt. I'll just call it my own personal affirmative action.

» genetic lineages vs. social stereotypes Posted by: thoughtcriminal
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Afraid at a more basic level
Posted by: mysticpal on Jun 7, 2006 5:40 AM   
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As a white person who's always lived in racially-mixed neighborhoods (unlike the author, I'm sure) & never had much money, I'm afraid of getting stabbed, robbed at gunpoint, beaten up, etc., all of which have happened. Yes, I understand (or try to) the larger economic forces. And of course non-whites face the same crime, only generally much worse, in totally non-white neighborhoods. And the police attitude and response is historically part of the problem. And the drug war is a BIG part of the problem. But this article seems incredibly naive to me.

"My reaction wasn't a crude physical fear, not some remnant of being taught that black men are dangerous (though I have had such reactions to black men on the street in certain circumstances)..." Translation: nothing bad ever did happen so crime is just an abstract "fear" to him. If he ever has a crime-related hospital stay, he'll take it seriously?

The author's discomfort during a discussion of media depictions of black male sexuality -- well, this is just ridiculous. It's one thing for academics to glean over such relatively trivial subjects, but oh my my, the prof felt uncomfortable! Still, he doesn't even report his black colleague's response to his "apology" for feeling uncomfortable. We're supposed to applaud him for the "apology" without even wondering what the black guy said? Now there's an example of self-centered whiteness.

I do see at the root, anti-black racism that has always worked to prevent economic advancement. But being poor doesn't automatically lead to crime.

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A good analogy and comparison is prison
Posted by: oldsmobile on Jun 7, 2006 5:46 AM   
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I think a good, perhaps simplified and extreme, yet accurate comparison and analogy to what kind of situation working class white people find themselves in, is what happens in prison.

When you go to prison, you really don't have much choice. If you want to be protected and survive, you have to get together with your racial group, if you are white you join the Aryan Brotherhood. It is not about being a racist, it is about living in a structured system, and if you want to be part of that system, no matter what your personal beliefs are, you have to do what you need to survive.

It works the same way in society, though there is more variety and people have more choice. Even so, if you want to be a part of society, and especially if you are working class and struggling in the first place, you are forced to become a part of the system.

» Crossing the lines requires courage Posted by: thoughtcriminal
If this is what "professors" think........
Posted by: GoodByeToAmerica on Jun 7, 2006 5:48 AM   
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No wonder America is losing the plot, even her own citizens will not defend her. Racism is wrong, but whites have good reason to Fear Blacks and others, just take a look in your prisons for goodness sake.
Whites are at the top, will be there always, the bell curve will see to that. Do you really think the immigrants will really be able to run your country? Have you even heard of Zimbabwe? Once they reach critical mass, you contry will head straight down the 3rd world route.
Be afraid.

Be very afraid.

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Truth Seeker
Posted by: johnniewalker on Jun 7, 2006 5:54 AM   
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Oh, reading "white privilege." It's a white world, itsn't it!? I thought that this was a given.

Johnnie Walker

Drivel
Posted by: Stano on Jun 7, 2006 6:01 AM   
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Why waste time and space writing such drivel. There are so many other issues to be concerned with. Racism isn't just a white person phenonmenon. People of color also display racisim. I've been a victim of it and I know others who have too. And as one reader already mentioned, there are more white people at the top because there are more white people.
Further, I think everyone, white black brown whatever, is feeling scared about losing what they have. The pie is getting smaller.

misleading and destructive
Posted by: daw13 on Jun 7, 2006 6:23 AM   
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Professor Jensen may be sincere, but his message is damaging to those suffering from racial discrimination. This discrimination is now largely invisibilized and operates quite indpendently of individual white prejudice. To combat it the white citizenry (Inot the elite) would have do do far more than get over prejudice. They would have to make common cause with Blacks and Latinos in an effort to empower all little people in the US. This would require Whites to acknowledge not their almost meaningless (in this sense) superiority, but they're lack of real power in this country. In a very real sense, Whites possess only the power to bully others, and to accept the privilege of bullying toward realization of very small economic gains -- in exchange for going along with The Program.

In short, it's not White Supremacy that's the problem, its white white powerlessness. And this is what really frightens many white people. It was this fear that gave rise to the KKK, undermined Populism's short flirtation with cross-racial identification, and now shunts so many poor white people towards US fascism -- the fear that the only way to keep one's head above water is to accept membership, however lowly, in the Gang.

Encouraging whites to confront their own prejudice rather than acknowledge their powerlessness is misleading, distractive and counterproductive. It serves the interests of Power well. Its called Fake Activism.

» RE: misleading and destructive Posted by: bornxeyed
White Privilege and White Fear
Posted by: tiellis on Jun 7, 2006 6:25 AM   
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I read this article with some interest; it made a number of interesting points. But I generally find this kind of self-flagellatory discourse by white scholars a bit neurotic. And I'm quite sure that most black people would agree with me.

I am a middle-class white (Anglo-American) professor, the beneficiary of all sorts of built-in, culturally ingrained privileges--including not only my mainstream ethnicity, but also my commanding height, my mainstream English name, and my deep, resonant voice--that have made my life and career path far easier than it would have been if I had been born either working-class white, black, Hispanic, gay, or female, short, fat, or with a high nasal tenor voice like Truman Capote. In short, first impressions, over which people have relatively little control, give people like me--white, male, mainstream, speaking standard English--an enormous, and unearned, initial advantage over others. But none of this is my own doing, nor--more to the point--is it my fault. In these respects, I am simply lucky.

So what is my point? I have gotten to know African Americans quite well, having taught for the past 17 years at colleges where African Americans were the majority--including 11 years full-time at an entirely black university, where the only white people to be found comprised about 30 percent of the faculty. From this extensive experience, I largely overcame the ingrained fear of black people that most white people have.

What I have found is that the secret for getting along well with black people--or any other "other" for that matter, is simply to treat them like human beings--smile, say hello, make smalltalk, be there if they need you, and leave them alone if they want to be left alone. Nothing else matters. When I go into my local supermarket (in a city which is 70% black) I watch other white people instinctively withdraw into themselves and subtly avoid the black people all around them, causing the black people to do likewise. But instead, when I encounter a black person (or white person for that matter), I gauge their comfort level, and if it is sufficient, I make eye contact, smile slightly, and say "how ya doin'?" What I have found from this simple practice is that by and large, the black people are far more gracious, far less frightened, than the white people I have met. In fact, they seem delighted that a white man even acknowledges their existence, since most white people are too afraid to do so. This allows me to get along quite effortlessly with black people, and feel compassion, rather than scorn, for the fearful white people.

In short, I don't think that white guilt or self-flagellation serves any adaptive purpose. I cannot help the fact that I was born to privilege; it was not my doing, nor is it my fault. And if others resent me for it, all I can do is continue to treat them like human beings, in the hope that they will return the favor, and realize that I am just another human being like themselves, and not simply "The White Man." But if they don't see this, and persist in projecting their own stereotype of "The White Man" on me, I need not resent them for this, nor apologize for being white. I'll simply try to empathize with the pain that led them to this perception, and show compassion for them in whatever way they will allow--or leave them alone if they want to be left alone. As Lao Tzu said, all we really need to do is to "take care of everyone and abandon no one."

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Wrong Frame: It's Class, not Race
Posted by: ChicagoCarless on Jun 7, 2006 6:31 AM   
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Race is nothing but a decoy in the post-industrial economy. An oversimplification, certainly, but essentially the moneyed (or at least employed) classes fear incursions -- or having to pay for -- the less moneyed / underpaid / unemployed / illegal (take your pick).

Blacks and whites could both be purple in this economy and nothing would change. It's been a demographic conflict for a long time, and constantly harping on whites being afraid of blacks or reverse racism from blacks and hispanics misses the boat entirely.

To my mind, this refusal to talk about this potent societal cleavage in economic terms is what keeps many poor urban blacks from truly believing that they can ever rise above, simply due to their skin color. It's also what keeps generating a base of support for racist politicians and hate groups among economically disenfranchised whites looking for someone to blame for their woes.

It may be tough to get there when you're not white, but ask any middle-class black or hispanic how they got that way and they'll tell you through hard work, not through some mystical transcendence of omnipresent societal racism.

Or, in the sage words of RuPaul, no matter your color, "You better work."

Your fears not mine
Posted by: solrev on Jun 7, 2006 7:11 AM   
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I do not know what planet you people live on but all the fear you keep talking about is BS. Unfortunately, the truth is that there is not enough fear in the US. Eighty percent of the people in this country claim to be apart of the Christian faith. Very few denominations actually preach and teach the gospel, but they sure teach hell and damnation. So all the good Christians through religion overcome their fear of eternal damnation. What fear could be as great as that? Not all the fears that you dream up are real. You would be better off substituting the word hate for fear. The war on terror is not about fear of terrorists. It is about creating a group to hate. Let me protect you from the blacks, Muslims, Jews or some other group to be named later. Fear is a weak motivator. Evolution programmed us to flee from fear. Hate can turn us into mad dogs and Englishmen. Global warming no fear, no hate, no action. That is how it is with most of the problems facing society. Divide and conquer, I do not believe you realize that, forty eight percent of the people in this country do not view any thing happening on this planet as affecting their lives. I do not care what laws you pass, I do not care who your judges are, and I do not care what wars you fight, I am going to do what ever I want, so just leave me alone. We are without fear to the degree that we are useless. We exist within your society but we are not a part of it. If it becomes difficult for us to exist, then we will fight. In our world, the sword is mightier than the pen. The overclass that you fear knows this. They will not risk their own destruction until the end. Some of you talk about somebody building places to contain you. They may be building places to keep us out. We are divided and none of your fears is real to us.

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SOLUTION: GROW UP IN TORONTO
Posted by: Scientz on Jun 7, 2006 7:12 AM   
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That whites might feel the way the article insinuates might have something to do with the insular world they grow in, only being "forced" to deal with "minorities" upon late adolescence and adulthood.

I speak from experience.

In my lower-middle-class neighbourhood in Toronto (and all of a sudden I'm thinking, wrong frame--class not race, but I digress) I grew in a public school system where every class of mine consisted of six white kids, five Orientals, five South Asians, four black kids, two Latinos, two Filipinos, an Arab and a Native American.

I'm not kidding.

The idea that there was somehow anything "different" about my classmates didn't take shape until the anti-racism summits of my early teens.

In my head, I contrast this experience with that of my cousins who grew up in northern Ontario in a insulated little white world, and some of whom are embarassingly racist and intolerant of other cultures.

My opinion: It starts young.

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Truth Seeker
Posted by: johnniewalker on Jun 7, 2006 7:58 AM   
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Readers,
Regarding any topic, I think that it would go a long way if we all tried to "hear" (understand?) what a contributer is saying ("where they are 'coming from'" as it were) before we evaluate from our preconceived notions what has been said regareding the given topic. In short, a little "openness" may go a "long way" in these discussions. Just a thought.

Also, just to add some clarity to the topic of racism, discrimination and "white privilege." Racism is based on POWER. Discrimination is not. For example, POWER + DISCRIMINATION = RACISM. To be racist, one has to have the power to (potentially) subjugate (overtly or covertly). Lastly, you can be prejudice without being racist, but you cannot be racist without being prejudice. In short, can those persons not in power be racist? Just a thought.

Regarding the "luck" of being white, white guilt or interacting with the way things are--"white privilege" is a very important topic regarding discourse over many of the problems facing these United States. Any society built on power and discrimination is racist. Put another way, any society that allocates resources and/or one that hands out "benefits" (e.g., jobs, club memberships, neighborhoods, etc., etc. = i.e., "privileges") based on discrimination of skin color is racist. Are all those persons who live in American society racist? Depends on whether you are benefiting from "the way things are." If American society hands out benefits and priviliges based on (white) skin color, and you are white, most likely you are benefiting from this system. Whether you are aware of it or not. Are individual white people responsible for the way things are? Should one feel GUILTY if one was born white and therefore an earlier commentator states, "I cannot help the fact that I was born (white...and...) with privilege." As the writer of this article is attempting to do--you need to come to terms with not only your whiteness (I've had to come to terms with my... "blackness"--and I continue to come to terms with it in this society), but the matter of white privilege. Not only is racism and white privilege wrong--for it is a distorted way of allocating resources, one based on power versus competition and/or merit--but it's a tool that allows "those in ultimate power" to pit members of the American electorate against one another. Racism (a system that white privilege is based upon) is only overshadowed by sexism and classism. Just a thought.

Sadly, as alluded to above, what about the white American WHO DOES NOT BENEFIT from "the way things are?" For a system based on "white privilege" does NOT benefit all whites! Unfortunately, the white poor (and possibly mainstream working class/local middle class white groups) are probably the most neglected in American society. Who speaks for them despite the fact that they continue to be manipulated to vote REPUBLICAN? Such is the cruelty of American society and the discussion of white privilege.

Johnnie Walker

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the USA is a very racist nation - policy
Posted by: Ghoulman on Jun 7, 2006 8:13 AM   
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Being Canadian, as Scientz up above noted, we live in an official "multi-cultural" nation. All federal institutions try to promote community instead of segregating people into racial groups.

The USA has only barely accepted the Civil Rights movement, and many people died during those years, years which began only some 40 years ago. It was a war zone in Detriot. California riots, Washington marches. It wasn't easy in the US in the past, and it's not over. The USA still has ghettos, still has official racist policy (if less obvious), and police still pick people up for mearly being brown. Take my advice, if you're brown and new york cop car drives up... run.

The USA is a nation of fear and racial fears are simply one of the most powerful, and traditional, fears employed by the US elite to foster support from a vast majority of Americans who truely believe that America is, or should be, a white, Christian, homeland.

Note... you've already started to call it a homeland... even though it never was.

Considering the racist rhetoric from Washington about "Islamo-fascism" and trumped up fears, even colour coded, of muslims I can only think the fears Americans fear are thier own fault, culture, and delusion.

A friend of mine, a pretty girl, was working in Georgia and used to shock the hell out of her black co-workers when she'd joke around with them... they told her it's just not what the white folk usually do (they were especially shocked she demanded a drag from the spliff she caught them having on the garage... something to the tune of "don't bogart that bone homie, pass it to da left", which sounds much funnier comming from a small Canadian girl). She called me and said; "You know how we think of Americans as racist sometimes"?

"Yea".

"Well, they're way, way, worse. It's creepy down here".

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IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT THE DRAFT AND COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC
Posted by: albiegf13 on Jun 7, 2006 8:16 AM   
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I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR MEN AGES 18 TO 25 TO REGISTER FOR THE DRAFT.. I PICKED UP A FORM AT THE POST OFFICE THIS MORNING. LOOK IN www.sss.gov... I thought (assumed), that this was a relic of the past... Geezzz Louise....

I Fear the Ruling Class not other Races
Posted by: gar on Jun 7, 2006 8:23 AM   
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Racism is very real - but it is not unique to the US. Slavery in the US is just one of the most recent historical examples of racism and, therefore, one of the easiest to set up as a "strawman" when talking about racism. Racism, however, goes much deeper than that and it certainly goes much further back in history than the plantation days of the southern United States.

Racism is a "them" and "us" gut reaction inbred in the human race. Every mother teaches her offspring that "stranger means danger." Every linguist will tell you that no matter what individual tribes called themselves, be it tribes native of Africa, aborigines in Australia, or so-called "native" Americans, 99.99% of the time, their tribal name translates as "The People” or some variation. Therefore, everybody outside the tribe is, by unspoken definition, not "People."

For some, so-called educated professor to sit in his privileged ivory tower with his tenured, secure, and well-paid job and talk about "White fear" while completely ignoring the historical, cultural, and even linguistic basis of universal racism and stereotyping is to show that he is either ignorant of what he speaks or he is attempting to insure even more division between races.

I would suspect the later. After all, if the ruling class - and their lackeys - can keep the lower classes divided and fighting along racial lines, the lower classes will fail to see that equality, wealth and power are not a struggle between races but a struggle between those who have and those who have not.

Truth Seeker
Posted by: johnniewalker on Jun 7, 2006 8:41 AM   
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RACISM = DISCRIMINATION + POWER

A (power) system that allocates benefits, resources, rewards and privileges based on skin color/ethnicity/culture (discrimination) is racist. A system that allocates benefits, resources, rewards