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Pattern of Deception, Revealed

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted July 20, 2005.


The Rove-Plame scandal is just the most visible example of the administration's willingness to destroy anyone in order to achieve its goals.

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Now it's getting funnier and funnier. There is an elephant in the living room and we're sitting around having a conversation about whether there's an elephant in the living room.

"I think there's an elephant in the living room."

"Well, there's a lot of elephant poop around, but that doesn't prove there's an elephant in the living room."

The entire Republican Party is shocked (!) anyone would think that Karl Rove (!!) would leak a story to damage a political opponent. Oh, the horror. And Karl has always been such a sweet guy. Just to give you an idea, one time Rove was displeased with the job done by a political advance man and said, "We will f--- him. Do you hear me? We will f--- him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever f---ed him!" (From an article by Ron Suskind). And that was a guy who was on his side.

Attacking an opponent's wife is standard operating procedure for Rove. Have Republicans actually convinced themselves that he wouldn't do such a thing? People, sometimes party loyalty asks too much.

Actually, we are missing the point here. The point being that Joseph Wilson is merely one of the many people who provided one of the by now innumerable pieces of evidence that this administration lied about why we went to war in Iraq. When former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill wrote that Bush planned to invade Iraq from the day he took office, the administration went after O'Neill. When Richard Clarke disclosed that the Bushies wanted to use Sept. 11 to go after Saddam Hussein from Sept. 12 on, they went after Clarke. They went after Gen. Zinni, they went after Gen. Shinseki and everyone else who opposed the folly or told the truth about it. After they got done lying about weapons of mass destruction and about connections to Al Qaeda, they switched to the stomach-churning pretense that we had done it all for democracy. Urp.

We suffer the worst attack on this country since Pearl Harbor, and the Bush administration sends the FBI after the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU exists to protect every citizen's rights as defined in the Bill of Rights in the Constitution of the United States. The ACLU works solely through the legal system: It does not advocate violence, terrorism or any other damn thing except the Bill of Rights. Since when is that extremist? Why in the name of heaven are we wasting the FBI's time on this idiocy? I don't pretend to be an expert on counter-terrorism, but if it were up to me, I wouldn't start looking for the violence-prone in pacifist groups either. Your pacifists, you see -- oh, just look it up.

I know that sludge-for-brains like Bill O'Reilly attack the ACLU for being "un-American," but when Bill O'Reilly's constitutional rights are violated, the ACLU will stand up for him just like they did for Oliver North, Communists, the KKK, atheists, movement conservatives and everyone else they've defended over the years. The premise is easily understood: If the government can take away one person's rights, it can take away everyone's.

We are living in a time when our government is investigating an organization that stands for the highest and best American ideals. And claiming the mantle of patriotism while they are about it. This is cuckoo -- and such an idiotic waste of the FBI's time and the taxpayers' money that whoever thought up this idiocy should be fired yesterday.

But even that is superseded by what lies at the heart of Plamegate, and that is lying in order to get this country into war. If the Washington press corps had a memory bank longer than 10 minutes, they could have exposed this years ago: the lies so often directly contradict one another. Before the war, the CIA was such a wussy organization it kept trying to downplay weapons of mass destruction in Iraq: After the war, it was all the CIA's fault, they had exaggerated the weapons of mass destruction. And so on and so on.

The trouble with piling lies on top of lies is that we can't even agree on facts anymore. I read the right-wing commentators, and it's not that we're not on the same page -- we're not even in the same library. They read the Downing Street memos and convince themselves they don't mean what they say. I really don't understand: Is it that hard to admit you're wrong when you're wrong? Is it that hard to admit that the invasion of Iraq has been a disaster? Isn't it self-evident?

If you support someone politically, you are not required to believe they are perfect. Did I think Bill Clinton had a sleazy affair while he was president? Yes. I just didn't care. I didn't think it had anything to do with the way he was running the country. You can't dismiss this. You can't not care about lies and war. Not if you care about American soldiers.

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On target as usual
Posted by: murph on Jul 20, 2005 1:19 AM   
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Molly is spot on as usual. I go around shaking my head so much people must think I have Parkinson's. I will never understand how O'Reilly and his ilk can pander to the right wing neo-cons. Journalistic lap dogs. Bow Wow, Bill.

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Changing the subject
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 20, 2005 3:19 AM   
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Bush was not supposed to make an announcement on Sandra Day O'Connor's replacement for another few weeks. Yesterday he sprang her proposed successor on us out of the blue. Why, you may ask? He's trying to take our minds off of the Plame affair. This guy is so transparent it's really kind of funny.
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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Ivins rocks
Posted by: stevec on Jul 20, 2005 3:22 AM   
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I've been reading her for years and knew a lot about Dubyah since he was governor.
We need a thousand more Molly Ivin(ses). And a thousand more John Stewart's in this country.
What we have (O'reilly, Limbaugh) is scary.
I know otherwise intelligent people who listen (and obey) to that kind of crap. I think they still believe in Santa too!

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The Plame Blame Game
Posted by: FlapJackSeven on Jul 20, 2005 3:37 AM   
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It has never been determined that Valerie Plame is or was a covert agent at the time of her alleged outing, or as evidence is beginning to suggest, that her and her husband engineered the whole event.

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WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO DO
Posted by: FAITHCARR on Jul 20, 2005 3:44 AM   
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Go MOLLY, Go Molly!
Here's what we're doing in Gainesville Florida

The DOWNING STREET MEMO
NATIONWIDE EVENT/LOCAL ACTION

UPDATE **PRESS RELEASE**UPDATE

Gainesville, Florida, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 23, 2005
THE DOWNING STREET MINUTES THIRD ANNIVERSARY EVENT
INTERVIEWS AND INFORMATION: Harold Saive - 352-514-7118 or Faith Carr - 352-335-0771

A National movement to educate the Citizens of America regarding the apparent deceptions of the Bush Administration

SPONSORED LOCALLY BY:
PROGRESSIVES OF ALACHUA COUNTY
COMMUNITY COALITION AGAINST WAR AND TERRORISM
VETERANS FOR PEACE
ALACHUA COUNTY DEMOCRATIC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
DEMOCRACY FOR AMERICA
ALACHUA COUNTY GREEN PARTY

LOCATION: Florida School of Massage
6501 SW 13th Street (Just North of Payne’s Prairie)
TIME: 1:00 PM to 5:00 PM

NATIONAL AND LOCAL SPEAKERS:
Ambassador Dennis Jett, Ph.D., Vice President for Academic Affairs, Dean of the International Center, University of Florida.
David Bruderly, Congressional Candidate
Charles Grapski, Chair, Progressives of Alachua County
Jon Reiskind, Chair, Alachua County Democratic Executive Committee
Jerry Rose, Ph.D. Retired Sociology Professor, SUNY, Interim Campaigns Director, PAC
Shelly Packer, Director of Operations of Alachua County Democratic Executive Party.

LEARN: About the facts surrounding the DOWNING STREET MINUTES from local sources and trusted community leaders.
VIEW: Multimedia presentations providing penetrating, in-depth commentary on the most compelling issues of the day.
WATCH: Dramatic Reenactment of the July 23, 2002 British Cabinet Meeting that were the source of the DOWNING STREET MINUTES.
LISTEN TO THE: Declaration of Impeachment- Issued by Veterans for Peace- July 4, 2005 by Dr. Bill Warrick,
ENJOY: Live Music, Food and refreshments will be available.
“OPEN MIKE” for opposing viewpoints, AND YOUR CHANCE TO HAVE YOUR SAY!

FOR MORE INFORMATION AND TO SIGN UP FOR THE EVENT IN GAINESVILLE, OR IN OTHER LOCATIONS NATIONWIDE PLEASE GO TO WWW.AFTERDOWNINGSTREET.ORG

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Bush the Pantywaist
Posted by: oakgroveinn on Jul 20, 2005 3:49 AM   
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Yep, on July 7 the president hinted it would be several weeks before he was ready to disclose his choice. In the interim, Komrade Karl was outed. 12 days later a nominee pops up. This guy is such a pantywaist. Let's hope that Corporate Law Poster Boy Roberts gets a grilling and the White House Press Corps doesn't let Karl get out the back door.

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George W. Bush another Adolf Hitler
Posted by: rangerjim on Jul 20, 2005 4:21 AM   
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George W. Bush has turned out to be every bit as evil and dangerous as Adolf Hitler was. This nomination to the Supreme Court virtually gurantees the Nazification of the United States thus turning this country into either another Third Reich or something close to it. I think it is time that we the American People as a whole stood up to George Bush and his Nazi thugs and threw them out of office by whatever means is necessary to take back our government. It is supposed to be government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE and not the Nazi dictatorship that George W. Bush is trying to create. One way would be for all the American workers to stage a nationwide general strike and shut this country down, with ALL transport workers being first to walk off the job. That way, we could topple this Nazi dictatorship and take back our country. This administration is nothing but a bunch of white collar criminals.

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» RE: George W. Bush another Adolf Hitler Posted by: littlemanintheboat
xenacat
Posted by: xenacat on Jul 20, 2005 5:32 AM   
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It seems to me that the whole Bush administration is corrupt beyond belief. He needs to be removed from office for Iraq mess alone, not to mention his absolute hatred for humanity. I'm very sick of the progressive cant about his supporters basically being good people at heart. It just isn't true. We do indeed have the nazification of the U.S occurring right before our very eyes and we need to act against it now. Impeaching Bush for lies about Iraq is the way to go.

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What to do?
Posted by: acaryatid on Jul 20, 2005 6:34 AM   
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Until we can put Molly in the White House press office we will have to rely on public protest. Here's one in NYC saturday.

On July 23rd Code Pink New York will join forces with the NYC Downing Street Coalition for a demonstration outside NBC News at Rockefeller Center.

When: Saturday, July 23rd, 10 a.m.
Where: NBC Studios Rockefeller Center New York City
Meet at: South side of 49th Street - smack in the middle of 5th and 6th Avenues, right outside the NBC NEWS Building.
Attire: for uniformity please wear white shirts & dark pants or skirt

Did you get the memo?

The Downing Street Memo (actually, meeting minutes) and related documents provide new and compelling evidence that President Bush had, by the summer of 2002:
1. Secretly decided to go to war;
2. Decided to deceive and mislead the Congress and the American people with false claims about both weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and ties between Saddam Hussein and 9-11;
3. Secretly diverted $700 million from the War in Afghanistan and started bombing Iraq to provoke a war;
4. Agreed to go to the UN only to "legalize" an illegal invasion - and then walked out of the U.N. when inspections found no evidence of WMD (which we now know were never there).

Please join Code PINK, The Billionaires for Bush, Democracy.org, Veterans for Peace, Democrats for New York City and other members of the NYC Downing Street Coalition as we mourn the losses and call for NBC to investigate the lies.

Please see www.nycdowningstreet.com for updated info on this event

For more info about the Downing Street Minutes along with full transcripts, please see www.afterdowningstreet.org

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More REAL news
Posted by: Erin on Jul 20, 2005 6:41 AM   
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Thank you, Molly, for being among those journalists who write the truth. Why is it that people like you are not on the nightly news telling it like it is and counteracting all the propaganda that drones on and on every night, on every channel? The reason there are not enough of us American people to stand up to,and defeat this evil empire of Bush and his henchmen is because the masses have been brainwashed by conservative media that has taken over the airwaves and newspapers.
This Supreme Court nominee needs to be defeated, but we need to not let this smokescreen blind us to the Rove issue. Rove needs to be gone. And if the bewildered herd hadn't be taken over by mind control, we should be working on Bush's impeachment.

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» RE: More REAL news Posted by: Eoroneth
The really scary thing is Molly's anger
Posted by: DGB on Jul 20, 2005 7:55 AM   
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Unlike most of her writings (I'm a native Texan familiar with Ms. Ivin's career), this article sounded angry and scolding. I think this represents a growing frustration at the continued, pervasive dismantling of our way of life by the current neo-fascists regime. The courts are, like the Nazi's ascension to power, one of the final steps to a complete consolidation of power. Rove is currently in a glaring spotlight, but you won't see any changes in their policies or leadership until Republican members in the House of Representatives and Senate begin to lose their jobs. The only thing left to do is fight as hard as possible to expose how these liars are hurting everyday citizens and get out the vote. We lose every public debate because of the inability of we Americans to think critically, so we have to be shown the problem instead. Molly's voice is being drowned out by the voices catering to fear and nationalism.

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Does anyone really care?
Posted by: Zoom on Jul 20, 2005 8:14 AM   
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Although it's heartening to read about the efforts to educate the public in Gainesville, Florida, it would take such efforts in every city in the US to mobilize the American public. It seems to me that as long as most people have their comforts and distractions, no one really cares. My fear is that we've become a nation of cynics, accustomed to the corruption and dishonesty of our elected leaders. Oh, we fume about it in the office, and over the morning paper, but why aren't ALL of us in the streets? If we care so much about freedom and democracy why was Bush re-elected? And on a global scale, why, for example, did we watch while over a million Rwandans were slaughtered? Sorry about the negativity, it just washes over me some days.

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IVINS FOR PRESIDENT 2008
Posted by: Bob Doublin on Jul 20, 2005 8:39 AM   
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I say it again.MOLLY IVINS FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!

What a way to spend your elder years:as a cackling old Crone whuppin' ass in the White House.I'm tired of being betrayed by Democrat politicians.They have just as much to answer for as any of the Repukes in Congress.Though I must say,if she keeps doing what she's been doing her first half year in office,Christine Gregoire of Washington might make a good Vice President choice.Boy,she has had very intimate experience of Rethuglican lies,scams,and smears.I figured out early on that Chris Vance tried to steal the election for that asshole Rossi and it didn't work and so they tried to get revenge.

Bob

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Same Old Same Old
Posted by: mrsmagoo on Jul 20, 2005 8:55 AM   
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It's just the same old same old sleight of hand that this administration is so good at. If the heat on the White House - they'll find something to sick the ass-kiss'n press corp on to take our sheep-like minds off of them. Molly - keep writing and bitching! We need more of you for sure!

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History's Lessons and Bite
Posted by: Riverside on Jul 20, 2005 10:33 AM   
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There have been Karl Roves lurking in the halls of sordid politics sense humankind emerged on this planet. History also records that inevitably these orgres get it in the end, but history also tells how many good, innocent, honest, totally vulnerable people get destroyed in the process.

People of faith give a variety of explanations for the presence of these people and the suffering they cause. Their reasoning is ultimately soothing for believers, but leaves unanswered why we allow these horrors to exist and persist.

It is so beautiful to be trusting and believe the promises that politicians convincingly make and it is so incredibly ugly and agonizing when the truth comes out and all that trust gets swept out with the trash.

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Flapjack's Plamaegte comments
Posted by: willymack on Jul 20, 2005 12:08 PM   
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So many rockheads, so few meteors! For far too many people, the desire to think a president or his minions as morally superior and infallible sweeps away all evidence to the contrary. They have a crying need to "be like the others", to conform to what they (think) is a majority-held opinion, and to avoid the critical analysis so necessary to making ANY sound decision.

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Molly is a bizarre happening
Posted by: fjames on Jul 20, 2005 4:50 PM   
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What about the senate comittee that with BIPARTISAN support discredited this lackey. Dem normally love these comittee findings.
It's more possible that this guy and his wife were put up to this by dem operatives, than rove doing... What did he do?
This lady was outing from undercover when she set foot in that building. Here's a secret: foreign spies probably watch cia buildings!
Are the facts straight on this one Molly?

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» RE: Molly is a bizarre happening Posted by: AmericanVictim
atheists and KKK???
Posted by: jaggurnaut on Jul 20, 2005 6:00 PM   
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When did atheists join the ranks of communists and the KKK?? The whole country is so gung ho on the 'concept' of god that atheists are suddenly as bad a Bill O'Reily?? An intelligent/logical person would be an atheist if he truly understands that God and Religion are concepts created by the ruling to keep the masses under check. As an atheist I am seriously offended to be associated with Bill O'Reily !!!

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» RE: atheists and KKK??? Posted by: bornxeyed
Geeze, Molly, what about Ivan Duda, Terry Lenzer and Jack Palladino
Posted by: Gun Bunny on Jul 20, 2005 6:52 PM   
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It looks like you've forgotten Gennifer Flowers and the others, and have ignored the Bimbo Eruption team too.

Oh well.

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Is impeachment an impossibility?
Posted by: gwynshuman on Jul 22, 2005 11:12 AM   
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Two more blinks and the America some of us grew up loving and being proud of will be gone. How an ex-drunk and a smarmy ex-salesman could have taken us over without our being aware is mind-boggling. Or is it just that as long as Direct TV gives us what we want and China's goods are still cheap (for the moment) why care?

What I want to know is it at all still possible, considering the take over of the Christian right and the sycophants of GWB, to start impeachment proceedings against him? Or is it already too late?!!

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