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Taking a Closer Look at Fluoride

By Kelly Hearn, AlterNet. Posted July 21, 2005.


Is the fluoride controversy -- once a litmus test for crackpot-dom -- finally getting a little respect?

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To most folks, the decades-old controversy over fluoride belongs to the realm of foil hats and ham radios, of black U.N. helicopters and Freemason conspiracy theories.

But the investigation of a Harvard University professor accused of playing down links between fluoride and bone cancer may signal a mainstreaming of the debate.

Millions of Americans consume fluoride through community drinking water. Mainstream medical groups like the American Dental Association and the Centers for Disease Control have staked their reputation on fluoride, having long praised fluoridation schemes as beneficial for healthy teeth.

But anti-fluoride activists say a growing body of peer-reviewed scientific evidence counters long-held assumptions about fluoride's safety, and they're turning up the heat.

Last month, the Environmental Working Group, a respected Washington-based watchdog organization, called public attention to a Harvard study that shows links between fluoride and bone cancer in young boys. That study, conducted in 2001 by Elise Bassin, a Harvard doctoral student, stated that "among males, exposure to fluoride at or above the target level was associated with an increased risk of developing [the rare form of bone cancer] osteosarcoma. The association was most apparent between ages 5-10, with a peak at 6 to 8 years of age."

The EWG, which claims Bassin's study is the most comprehensive of its kind to date, also formally accused Chester Douglass, a researcher at Harvard's dental school and Bassin's former supervisor, of playing down her results in a 2004 report to federal officials.

The EWG has asked the National Institutes of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS) to investigate Douglass and has called on federal officials to list fluoride as a potential carcinogen.

Douglass, who is the editor of an academic publication funded by the toothpaste industry, told officials that his $1.3 million federally funded study, which included Bassin's work, showed no significant link between fluoridated water and osteosarcoma.

Both Harvard and the NIEHS are investigating EWG's claims.

"The main point is that [Bassin's work] is the most robust epidemiological study to date on bone cancer and fluoride," said Tim Kropp, a senior scientist at EWG, adding that Bassin's methods were so rigorous and difficult that the methodology itself was published separately from the findings. In a letter to the NIEHS, his group claimed that by glossing over Bassin's research, Douglass violated federal laws against falsifying scientific data.

"The Harvard School of Dental Medicine takes all allegations of misconduct seriously and has a standard system for reviewing allegations of research impropriety," a Harvard spokesperson said in an email. "The School will also work in concert with the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences in its review of the reporting of this research."


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Kelly Hearn is a former UPI staff writer who lives in Washington DC and Latin America. His work has appeared in the Christian Science Monitor, American Prospect, and other publications.

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Ordinary people can handle numbers too
Posted by: mazur on Jul 21, 2005 1:46 AM   
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"among males, exposure to fluoride at or above the target level was associated with an increased risk of developing [the rare form of bone cancer] osteosarcoma. The association was most apparent between ages 5-10, with a peak at 6 to 8 years of age."

This statement is misleading at best. Is it so difficult to state
1) what is the risk without exposure
2) ditto with exposure
3) how many subjects were examined in the study?

Unless these numbers are known, the statement does not say anything in particular. On the other hand, I think everyone could understand that if the risk was 1 per 100,000 per year without exposure, 2 with exposure, and there were only 100,000 subjects, then the results are unreliable.

To explain the argument, one could give a simple example: suppose you have a dice-cube, you throw it twice and get two sixes. Is it weighted? You can't really say. If you throw it a hundred times and get eighty sixes, it probably is. If you get 51 sixes, again you can't say. It's really just commonsense.

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Toxic Waste Is Good For You! Helps You Sleep...
Posted by: eyespy on Jul 21, 2005 8:29 AM   
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Don't you realize that? I mean, nothing left over from weapons-grade uranium enrichment and fertilizer production could possibly be bad for you, could it?

Besides being linked to bone, thyroid, and kidney disorders, fluorides (there are many, the principal H2O additives being hydrofluosilicic acid and sodium silicofluoride. Yum!) have a peculiar effect on the brain and central nervous system. In particular, here are three of your better known fluorides: fluoxetine, fluonitrazepam, and I-M-P fluoride. Perhaps you know them better as Prozac, the date rape drug Rohypnol, and sarin nerve gas. Wanna be sedated?

Interestingly enough, the first recorded instance of mass water fluoridation was not in the US. Nazi scientists had long understood fluoride's sedative properties, and fluoridation was widespread throughout the concentration camp system to pacify inmates, specifically Soviet POWs. Those same scientists were secretly brought to the US by the hundreds after WW II under Project Paperclip. Soon after WW II mass fluoridation had begun in the US. Those are the facts. It's just a REALLY interesting coincidence...oh well. Guess I'll just go get a nap. I'm kinda sleepy anyhow.

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» Yeah, I'd say coincidence. Posted by: nickptar
» RE: Yeah, I'd say coincidence. Posted by: bornxeyed
Osteosarcoma rates up 40% since 1975
Posted by: jm4310 on Jul 21, 2005 1:19 PM   
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Osteosarcoma strikes 500 children a year between the ages of 12-18. about 35-50% will die and of those that survive 10-20% will lose their leg and 100% will be disabled for life. As America continued to fluoridate from 1965-1995 the rate of osteosarcoma has increased 40% as shown by the National Cancer Institute. Unfortuately in the State of Massachusetts where Senator Kennedy's son Ted Jr. was treated for osteosarcoma, Massachusetts plans to fluoridate all cities and towns. The fluoride action network has bassin's article and other articles on fluoride. It is estimated that americans receive 20-30 ppm of fluoride in their diet daily although only 1 ppm was intended from the government. They neglected to add in fluoride from meat, soda, wine, cigarettes, and numerous other sources. If fluroide was taken out of all water sources in the US it would take 10-20 years before fluroide was out of the system. Fluoride unfortunately does not provide protection to your teath as xylitol as shown, and may cause dental and skeletal fluorisis to some people as well as fluroide toxicity syndrome. Interestingly, it has also been shown that sv40 from monkey kidneys in the polio vaccine is showing up in osteosarcoma tissue in up to 40% of people with the common children's cancer the 6th leading cancer but the dealiest.

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isis
Posted by: isis on Jul 21, 2005 4:23 PM   
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A long time ago I read an article in a scientific magazine about fluoride and how it appeared to be only effective for people of certain races and could increase dental decay in some people. It never got any press.

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some interesting speculations about fluorine
Posted by: bornxeyed on Jul 21, 2005 9:50 PM   
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Could it be significant that, given fluorines commonality in minerals on the planet - it is found bound ionically to aluminum, as AlF3, aluminum being the most common metal in the eath's crust, and to calcium as CaF2 and to sodium as NaF, that fluorine is NOT used naturally by living organisms.

It seems life as a whole has rejected a very common substance found in the crust of the planet.

Might not that lead to a conclusion about how fluorine acts on living systems?

For that matter, aluminum isn't found to be useful in living systems either, while many other, potentially toxic metals are required as trace minerals in order to construct proteins.

Fluorine, bromine, chlorine and iodine are all in the same group of elements, the halogens, but life has no use only for fluorine.

There were also findings at one time that Alzheimer's patients had high concentrations of aluminum in their brains. A researcher I worked with, who studies Alzheimer's disease, said the link between Al and AD was disproven, but it is known that fluoride can cross the blood/brain barrier and bring aluminum with it. Think of all the people who cook with fluoridated water in aluminum pots, especially since WW2, when aluminum cookware, teflon - which is tetraFluoroethylene - and fluoridated water all became standard in the American kitchen.

Fluorine is also the element with the highest electronegativity, meaning it binds the strongest to cations, such as Calcium and Sodium. It could therefore, bind up these metals in the body, removing them from life processes. That is, in fact, how exposure to hydrofluoric acid kills if enough enters through the skin - by binding Calcium and altering electrolyte balance. Of course, after it inflicts massive chemical burns.


Food for thought?

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some good places to start...
Posted by: bornxeyed on Jul 22, 2005 7:34 AM   
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medicine dictionary entry for fluorine toxicity:
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic181.htm


Dr. Mercola's archives:
http://www.mercola.com/2000/sep/24/
fluoride_kills_cells.htm

Health and Science Research Institute:
http://www.health-science.com/fluoride_toxicity.html
http://www.health-science.com/did_you_know.html


Sorry don't have the following URLs, I have them saved, anyone who wants any I'll email.

International Society for Fluoride Research:
Paper entitled:
AMELIORATION OF FLUORIDE TOXICITY BY VITAMINS E AND D
IN REPRODUCTIVE FUNCTIONS OF MALE MICE

Fluorosis -- Early Warning Signs and Diagnostic Test
by A. K. Susheela
Bulletin of the Nutrition Foundation of India
Vol. 10:2, April 1989

State Of Wisconsin
Circuit Court
Fond Du Lac County

SAFE WATER ASSOCIATION, INC., Plaintiff,
vs.
CITY OF FOND DU LAC, Defendant.
Case No. 92 CV 579
AFFIDAVIT OF A.K. SUSHEELA, Ph.D.
IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT
Dr. A.K. Susheela on Fluoride & Fluoridation
AFFIDAVIT OF JOHN R. LEE, M.D.
IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT

A Toxicological Profile by the U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) TP-91/17, Page 112, Sec. 2.7 (Health Impacts), April 1993

I have saved from this book a list of symptoms indicative of chronic fluorosis
Fluoridation the Great Dilemma:
by
Albert Burgstahler, Ph.D. Prof. of Organic Chemistry, H. Lewis McKinney, Ph.D,Prof. of the History of Science,University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas & George. L. Waldbott, Heidelberg M.D., Physician, Warren, Michigan

Susheela AK, Jethanandani P. Circulating testosterone levels in skeletal fluorosis patients. J Toxicol Clin Toxicol 1996; 34: 183-9

I also read a paper, which I can't see to find now, that studied a group of mice genetically engineered to be cancer resistant. When one group of mice was fed fluoridated water the whole group develop osteosarcoma, in the control group, fed distilled water, none developed any cancers. I am not sure the concentration of fluorine used in the study.

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More toxins from the fertilizer industry - food grown on radioactive tobacco fields
Posted by: bornxeyed on Jul 23, 2005 5:58 PM   
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Guess I'll have to tell my dentist
Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 25, 2005 9:28 PM   
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All he does is bitch about how flouride has cut into his business, and he's been in business a long time. So flouride is definitely bad for dentists.

Hasn't anyone yet noticed that California has a growing 'epidemic' (they call it) of autism? That has also happened since the beginning of flouridated water. And if things happen at the same time, that means they must have a causal relationship? Look at the folks blaming it on mercury in vaccination shots. (Oh yeah. That's just been debunked by studies.)

I'm sure nothing else has happened to the boys with bone cancer to explain it, although I don't see any matching studies. So that's probably what the mercury that doesn't cause autism is causing. Mercury and flouride are both elements, aren't they? Sounds fishy to me. Especially since there are so many swimming pools in California kept germ free with chlorine. That's the same as flourine, right. I mean one just begins with a 'ch" and the other with an "f" and they both have 'rine' in them. Maybe that's what's causing it.

I say, let's ban rine now! (Unless it's because they are boys they got the big C. It's also sexist? All the more reason to ban it.)

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mim
Posted by: mim on Aug 4, 2005 7:01 PM   
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So General Jack D. Ripper was right?

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