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Rights and Liberties

Will Democrats Restore Our Liberties Stolen in the Bush Era?

By Ari Melber, AlterNet. Posted November 10, 2007.


Repealing the Patriot Act, ending warrantless wiretapping, restoring habeas corpus -- have Democratic leaders figured out that these are winning issues in the aftermath of Bush's power grab?
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Does the Democratic Party still stand for human rights and civil liberties?

Yes and no.

Most rank-and-file Democrats strongly support constitutional rights, from grizzled ACLU liberals to Iowa Caucus voters to MoveOn's web enthusiasts, and the issue regularly competes with Iraq as a top priority for party activists. Yet Democratic leaders are much more ambivalent. The Democratic Congress buckled in its largest civil liberties clash with the White House, passing legislation to expand warrantless spying in August. And while Democratic presidential contenders are better -- they all opposed the surveillance bill and the administration's unconstitutional Military Commissions Act -- few have used the full power of their office to advocate constitutional rights. As the Bush era of radical secrecy, unitary executive power and openly unconstitutional leadership draws to a close, the Democrats are still debating how to restore rights and liberties while waging a more effective battle against terrorists.

In the presidential field, Chris Dodd has outlined the most thorough civil liberties platform. The 26-year Senate veteran is the author of major legislation to restore habeas corpus and repeal the Military Commission Act. He also led the congressional battle against retroactive immunity for telephone companies that illegally assisted the N.S.A.'s domestic surveillance. Joe Biden has staked out a leadership role on civil liberties as well. He was the first presidential candidate to back Dodd's pledge to filibuster Bush's surveillance bill -- later Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton followed suit -- and he was the first Democrat to introduce legislation reversing the controversial July executive order authorizing "enhanced interrogation techniques." Biden's legislation, "The National Security with Justice Act," would also close U.S. government "black sites," require that all interrogations comply with the Army Field Manual and provide oversight to constrain the administration's use of "rendition" (the practice of outsourcing torture to other countries). Yet the bill does not have a single Senate co-sponsor -- an indication of how reticent Democratic leaders are in this area.

The remaining Democratic frontrunners do not prioritize civil liberties much on the campaign trail, though they do advocate constitutional rights in contrast to the Bush administration. Obama, Clinton and John Edwards each say that if elected, for example, they will restore habeas corpus, close Guantanamo and halt illegal domestic spying. Obama and Clinton have both cosponsored stand-alone legislation to restore habeas corpus. And unlike Clinton, Obama has signed on to Dodd's more comprehensive bill, the "Restoring the Constitution Act," which has 13 co-sponsors. Edwards, a former senator, has not specifically spoken out on the bill, though he has endorsed several of its proponents in several addresses challenging the entire doctrine of a "Global War on Terror." Clinton also categorically ruled out the use of torture during a presidential debate in September, withdrawing her previous position that torture could be justified in a ticking time-bomb scenario.

Yet across the country, Democratic voters support a constitutional rights agenda much more forcefully than their elected leaders. According to survey that Belden Russonello & Stewart conducted this September, 81 percent of Democrats oppose torture, 70 percent favor restoring of habeas corpus, and 69 percent want to close Guantanamo. Iowa's pivotal (and knowledgeable) Democratic electorate supports these priorities at even higher rates than the national averages, including 94 percent opposition to torture and 88 percent support for habeas corpus. Democrats would not alienate swing voters on this score, either. The national survey found Independents had similar views, including higher support for habeas corpus (80 percent) and opposition to torture (87 percent) than Democrats across the country.

Civil liberties advocates say these positions, among Democrats and independents alike, are animated both by frustration with Bush's failures and a desire for new leadership that wages a battle against terrorists the "American way." That is the philosophy behind a new liberal group, the American Freedom Campaign, calling on all the presidential aspirants to affirm American values in the Constitution by strongly backing a freedom "pledge." That includes a policy commitment to restore habeas corpus, secure rights of the accused, ban all torture and defend personal liberties. With backing from MoveOn.org, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the Center for Constitutional Rights, among others, the group has already elicited letters of support from each of the leading Democratic presidential candidates.

Yet even that important list of priorities is not sufficient to restore the rule of law in the post-Bush era. Though members of Congress rarely admit it, and the public may not appreciate it, the most significant rejections of President Bush's counterterror policies have actually come from the courts -- not from Congress or elections. The conservative Supreme Court has twice rejected Bush's detention policies at Guantanamo in the landmark Rasul and Hamdan decisions. Lower federal courts have also rebuffed executive programs to detain a U.S. citizen without trial and spy on Americans without the required warrants. Yet Bush has repeatedly responded by maligning court oversight as a barrier to national security and attempting to circumvent the rulings. Congress has reinforced that approach, even after the Democrats took control this year, by passing legislation to validate surveillance rebuffed by the courts; granting immunity to potential war criminals and contractors in Iraq; and stripping habeas corpus in the Military Commissions Act, which responded to the Hamdan decision in 2006. (The State Department also secretly granted immunity to Blackwater bodyguards, as the Associated Press reported this week.)


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Ari Melber is a regular contributor to the Nation magazine and writer for its Campaign '08 blog, and a contributing editor at the Personal Democracy Forum. He served as a legislative aide in the U.S. Senate and was a national staff member of the 2004 John Kerry presidential campaign.

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The Battle for the Constitution is Already Lost ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 10, 2007 12:30 AM   
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It started when Nixon wasn't impeached. It continued when the Republican Congress failed to check Bush. The death nell was Pelosi's position that 'impeachment was off the table'.

Any new President now has precedent to game the system. Whether it be signing statements, torture, deliberate subterfuge as in the Justice Department or secrecy, a new President has plenty of legal cover.

Unless and until Bush and his administration are tried and convicted for specific crimes under the Constitution there will be no precedent for the redress of these crimes.

Does anyone actually think Bush, Cheney or Gonzales will be tried ?

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One can only hope
Posted by: vox persona on Nov 10, 2007 12:34 AM   
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Will the Democrats restore our civil liberties? They can't possibly do worse than the cretins that have run this country into the ground over the last few years. Note that our beloved Constitution, at least I belove it, doesn't even have the slightest mention of 'parties', so I am highly uncomfortable about the vise-like grip our two parties have on the system. I remember my first presidential election of '80 I was already advocating for a third party; at the time I pulled for the Citizens Party headed by Barry Commoner. So much for that. We are captive to walking the two party planks, they are the only game in town. Even before boy Emperor Bu$h the junior ascended to the throne, I absolutely refused to vote for any Repuglican, but after these demons showed their true colors, I feel like I'm fighting a holy war against everything they showed that they are. Sanctimonious and self-righteous, they are as flawed human beings as the rest of us. Co-opting Jesus, they betray everything He taught. Offering platitudes and bumper sticker jingoism, they raped our treasury, sent us into the hellhole of an immoral and unconstitutional occupation of land Muslims consider holy under at best false pretenses. They strip the constitution of any meaning with their shredding of the 4th Ammendment, Article II (which has been unitarily absolutely redefined), and Article I Section 8. They made Orwell proud with their doublespeak and cynical bill labels, see "Patriot Act', 'Clean Air Act', et al ad nauseam. Will the democrats be any better? Let us pray.

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» RE: One can only hope Posted by: hilaryuk
Senator Dodd
Posted by: Slmncty on Nov 10, 2007 2:58 AM   
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We all should watch the senate judiciary comm. as well as Senator Reid. Will Reid uphold Dodds hold on the legislation? If not, will filibuster be joined? By whom? Will the final legislation restore habeas corpus as well as no immunity? Leadership qualities may be on display. Senator Dodd is looking more impressive as presidential.

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» RE: Senator Dodd Posted by: outlander55
» RE: Senator Dodd Posted by: Intellect
» RE: Senator Dodd Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Senator Dodd Posted by: JSquercia
One More Time: Dems = Repugs
Posted by: socialpsych on Nov 10, 2007 3:51 AM   
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As I mentioned yesterday, the emerging paradigm is that the two-party system is theater designed to distract and disempower the American citizenry. The Dems and Repugs are financed by the same corporate masters and thus are indistinguishable. People in power NEVER give up power, they grab more, so the Dems will not repeal any of the harms done by Bush, Cheney, & Co., whether they control the White House in 2009 or not. The poster above is quite correct: the only remedy is to impeach and try Bush and Cheyney to set an example for future aspirants to political office in the U.S. Looking to the Dems for salvation is a waste of time.

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» RE: One More Time: Dems = Repugs Posted by: manatthewindow
» Good points Posted by: socialpsych
Why not Kucinich?
Posted by: Democritus on Nov 10, 2007 3:59 AM   
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What is disturbing about Melber's article is that he does not mention--not even once--Dennis Kucinich's name. Yet it has been Kucinich, more than any other Democrat, who has taken on the Bush-Cheney juggernaut. Kucinich would do all the things Melber advocates--repeal the Patriot Act, get rid of the Military Commissions, close Guantanamo, eliminate illegal surveillance of citizens, and end our occupation of Iraq

In addition, Kucinich courageously put forward a personal resolution, HR333 to issue Articles of Impeachment for Dick Cheney. He is the only Democrat who knows how to stop the Bush-Cheney machine from continuing to break the law in the way Melber deplores. Yet key Democrats backed off from Kucinich's resolution as if they were scalded, with Pelosi and Reid sounding more like moderate Republicans with each passing day.

If Melber is worried that the "front-running" Democrats won't have the backbone that Chris Dodd is showing, why doesn't he mention the candidate with more guts than any of them--and one who clearly shares the views of most progressive Democrats? Could it be that The Nation is out of synch with grass-roots voters?

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» RE: Why not Kucinich? Posted by: tkwilson
» RE: Why not Kucinich? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Withdraw? It is simple. Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: die for an AK-47? Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: Why not Kucinich? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Why not Kucinich? Posted by: Intellect
» Freedom is an unwanted distraction? Posted by: Constitutionalist
» RE: Why not Kucinich? Posted by: tibetsun
» Why not Ron Paul? Posted by: Setnakt
"the battle against terrorists the "American way.""
Posted by: socialpsych on Nov 10, 2007 4:28 AM   
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The "war on terrorism" is nothing but a distraction from what is really going on--the robbery of the treasury by fascist corpos. For some perspective on the weight that should be given to "terrorism," consider that on Sept. 11, 2001, about 3,000 Americans were killed, yet between Sept. 2001, and Nov. 2007, about 240,000 Americans were killed . . . on the roadways.

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» Yes, the comparison is poor Posted by: Ripcord
If You are Serious about Civil Liberties and an End to War
Posted by: alicelillie on Nov 10, 2007 7:37 AM   
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You need to consider Ron Paul!! He is not even a Democrat but stands head and shoulders above all the Democratic candidates in these areas!

Paul is the only one who is *overtly* against the war and wants to bring home the troops right now.

Paul *overtly* favors civil liberties, including marijuana legalization and an end to the spying.

Check him out and watch him debate on Dec. 28 on CNN, when (if I am not mistaken) the next GOP debate will take place.

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» Trust? How is Hillary trustworthy? Posted by: Constitutionalist
Too Long!
Posted by: thehousedog on Nov 10, 2007 8:30 AM   
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This article is too long. The title asks a simple question. Here is the simple answer:

No.

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» Damnit, you stole my post! Posted by: hurricane hugo
BETTER THAN EVEN ODDS - YES
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 10, 2007 9:17 AM   
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The people who want to take back America are still with us. They don't get any press. Edwards, Dodd, etc. are not is the race because they need the job. I believe they have good intentions. So, money talks. We don't have to listen. Bush is the president because he raised the most money. Time to think outside the box. Stop doing 'what you're told to do'. We have a great country here. We've lost some ground and we're and not used to it. Now we have to get back what is rightfully ours. Thanks, ANNA

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The short simple, answer to your question:
Posted by: oregoncharles on Nov 10, 2007 10:22 AM   
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No.

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Why do people think they care?
Posted by: bluebirdella on Nov 10, 2007 11:38 AM   
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The Democrats don't care any more than the Republicans do what happens to the Constitution. Why should they? They have comfortable jobs and lives, they are rich, they have nothing to gain personally by opposing the Bush Administration. If they wanted to fight for OUR freedoms, they'd do it. Obviously, since they're not doing it, our freedoms are irrelevant and unimportant. Why do people continue to imagine the Democrats care what happens to regular people? What makes you think they care what voters think? What makes you think our votes even count? How long before everyone wakes up and realizes we are already living in a fascist dictatorship? Get a clue. You're on your own.

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» RE: Why do people think they care? Posted by: Romantic Violence
Civil Libertarians versus Authoritarians
Posted by: James W. Harris on Nov 10, 2007 1:16 PM   
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There are civil libertarians in both parties, though not nearly enough of them. If we don't hang together where we agree, we will all hang separately.

All citizens who care about freedom need to turn up the heat on Congress to restore our civil liberties that the Bush Administration has gutted.

The House counterpart to Biden's bill is Congressman Ron Paul's new "American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007," introduced a few weeks ago. That bill would:

* Restore the right to habeas corpus by repealing the Military Commissions Act;
* Halt warrantless eavesdropping and spying on American citizens by requiring federal intelligence gathering to be conducted in accordance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA);
* Give Congress the ability to challenge the President's monarchical use of "signing statements" to avoid executing the nation's laws;
* Bar the use of evidence obtained through torture;
* Prohibit torture and arbitrary kidnapping and secret imprisonment;
* Protect the First Amendment rights of journalists who expose wrongdoing by
the Federal government "unless the publication would cause direct, immediate, and irreparable harm" to national security;
* Prohibit the use of secret evidence to label groups or individuals as terrorists for the purpose of criminal or civil sanctions.

Naomi Wolf says: "There is no way to overstate how crucial this piece of legislation is. ... A groundswell of millions of Americans of all parties rising up to insist on passage of the AFA legislation means that we are awake -- we get it -- and that we assert that an alert citizenry, not a whipped-dog Congress or a violently abusive executive, decides what happens in this nation still. ... I will move heaven and earth to support the passage of this lifesaving agenda."

A group of prominent conservatives -- including Bob Barr, Richard Viguerie (yes, THAT Viguerie), Reagan administration lawyer Bruce Fein, and American Conservative Union chairman David Keene -- are supporting it.

The liberal American Freedom Campaign has more on this and other opportunities:
http://afagenda.nonprofitsoapbox.com

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Will Democrats restore liberties stolen by the current administration?
Posted by: rfhurley on Nov 10, 2007 2:54 PM   
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No. In fact, they will take more.

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Why won't anyone say the obvious?
Posted by: Missing Piece on Nov 10, 2007 5:17 PM   
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Indeed, democrats will not give back they will take more for all the reasons already stated by previous comments. But they missed one thing. Peak oil

Just think of millions of people demanding food and housing, when energy is out of reach for the masses, its less than five years away. This country will become socialist state over night, and thats what all those super rich politicians we vote for are scared of. This new reality we find ourselves in, is a result of super rich people scared to death, that the masses are going to demand the wealth be spread out more.

Why don't I here anyone at alternet ever talk about the fact that oil is almost gone and almost out of reach for many people. Don't you see, no more sports, porn, gossip, etc. to dumb down Americans and distract them? what can the wealthy do to control us then? Simple, take away our rights, get us to fear each other and label us enemy combatant when we stand up.

Kucinich is a good man that well help us but he will be killed or made to look bad. Ron Pual is interesting but a little scary.

good luck, forget about the daily b.s. and get ready to live without oil. The wealthy have a grip on us so tight that we will never break it without a revolution.

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Is It For Real?
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Nov 10, 2007 5:19 PM   
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Consider that the failure to prevent 9/11 was not due to intelligence-gathering obstacles nor to due process guarantees. Condoleezza Rice was warned by Tony Lake that al Qaeda was a danger, and she dismissed the warning. Bush cut counterterrorism funding, and took no action when warned of a plan to hijack civilian airliners and fly them into buildings.

Despite widespread violations of constitutional rights, very few cases have been successfully prosecuted. Our torture (including dozens of deaths under torture by US officials), forced disappearances, kidnappings, false imprisonments, denials of due process, repudiation of the Hague and Geneva Conventions and other outrages have alienated our allies and multiplied our enemies.

Now is not the time for rhetoric, but for concerted action, and the Senate's craven, cynical confirmation of Mukasey calls into question its true motivations.

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Foundational question is not asked, If libertys are restore What Provisions will be put in place...
Posted by: common intelligence on Nov 10, 2007 8:37 PM   
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...to gard from the same thing happening again?

And how and who will slam a door on the exective branch from claiming executive privleges and stop the president from letting the cohorts in crime off scot free?

Do you think the next president and congress will address and prioritize making these repairs to all the damage Bush has done, to safe gard the nation from such fascist activities, so they are stopped and never be allowed to happen again?

It seems to me, just by hearing these questions here, that the distractive tactics will continue and the media and politicians will manuver all new business away from reflecting on such concerns in order to pretend it's all over and should be forgot. Just like opening up a reinvestigation into the piles of unanswered questions concerning the truth about 911.

The most worrisome terroist cell is in the United States Government. Non dare conspire to reach into the belly of the beast , less ye be swallowed, digested and excreated.

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Only Ron Paul would Restore the Constitution
Posted by: dayahka on Nov 10, 2007 10:01 PM   
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Ron Paul is the one and only candidate who is concerned about the Constitution; all the rest are maintainers of the Status Quo, who will do absolutely nothing to restore the Constitution. The entire Demopublican party is committed to a corporate fascism. The only difference between the so-called left-wing and right-wing of the Demopublicans is that the former believe in armed robbery--straight out they want your money (they call them taxes), while the right-wing of the Demopublicans believe in burglary and instead of taxes, they inflate the value of money. Take your pick: armed robbery or burglary, but both are thieves...And Bush is not the only one who has destroyed the Constitution; the whole bunch of them since probably Jackson have been doing it.

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» RE: Only Ron Paul would Restore the Constitution Posted by: Jefferson's Guardian
» ron paul scares me Posted by: Missing Piece
» Ron Paul doesn't scare me... Posted by: Cooltruth
» RE: ron paul scares me Posted by: left_libertarian
Competition
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Nov 11, 2007 6:59 AM   
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Constitutional governance is dead in the water and for the same reasons that Bush & Co. thrive. Fundamentalists seek to replace the Constitution with the bible as a means of restoring morality and purpose to modern America. Talk radio and the pulpits are laden with the mantra and the Republicans are smart enough to play such hole card in every election. That formidable minority sees itself as God's ministry on earth and it is their calling to Christianize the entire planet to fullfill their imposed obligations. Its not much different than the idea of Jihad to a Moslem. When viewed as a religious commitment to achieve a just salvation, restoration of civil and constitutional rights under the Constitution pale badly in comparison. Until that chasm can be bridged with knowledge, compassion and appreciation of effects, there is no political party or platform that will evoke change. We are hopelessly divided and there is no Messiah for this one.

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You Democrats Are Pathetic
Posted by: Joe on Nov 11, 2007 8:05 AM   
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are you seriously asking will democrats give back civil liberties?? are you really that blind. democrats aren't going to give you back crap. in democrats minds their only failing was not beating bush to the punch. if democrats had their way they would take even more rights....they are the party of big government is here to "protect you". the main reason you hear any sort of opposition to the the taking away of civil liberties is the enormous hate democrats have for bush. i should say public opposition...when it's time to vote democrats line right up with bush.

i get tired this complaining about bush when your only answer is to keep supporting the status quo. the left likes to call the right stupid but it's gets no dumber than those who think obamo, clinkton, edwards and like are the answer. you want change you're going to need a radical the like of ron paul to get the momentum heading in another direction.

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» RE: You Democrats Are Pathetic Posted by: left_libertarian
No chance The Demo-rats like Schumer are Fascists too..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Nov 11, 2007 10:40 AM   
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No..not a chance of it...!


Don't Vote , Revolt..!


Strike force Impeachment of these criminal fascist Unitary swine...!

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HARRY TRUMAN ONCE COMMENTED
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 11, 2007 11:27 PM   
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that you don't need a third party as long as you have the democratic party. My answer to that would have been, "As long as you are president Harry that could just be true." But Harry is not president and he is not running.

Our chances hinge entirely on campaign finance laws. You have already forgotten your recent history. Bill Clinton's first action was as a democratic president to try to get a democratic congress to pass a campaign finance law. It didn't happen. I think that Bill knew then that the rest of his presidency was shot. Big money bought the rest of it. If democrats can't take the big money out of politics in the United States all of you that are saying that our lost freedoms are not coming back are dead right. Big money wishes to manipulate the government and you and me. Its that simple.

Think about what Bill did when he ran for his second term. He sent a comprehensive campaign finance reform bill to congress. It was a good one. He plugged loopholes. They tore it up. So when Bill ran for his second term he got out his copy of the bill and jumped through every damned loophole that they had refused to plug. They screamed and cried and moaned and couldn't do a damned thing because they had virtually legalized his actions. The repubs even tried to run against him for it. But, in truth the repubs had led the way away from campaign finance reform.

Nothing will change as long as the same guys are buying our government. We may not see an improvement in our civil rights. I've had a nosey policeman challenge my civil rights in the last 2 days. All I was doing was sitting legally parked and waiting for a friend. He threw his lights on me and was running my plates to see if he could get anything. We had some vandalism and some of the very wealthy were victims. This generation of cops have no concept of privacy. Perhaps, our local cop thought that at age 68 I had devolved into my second childhood and had taken up firecrackers and vandalism as a hobby. Our cops have gotten to be a very bad class of people. We now have a law on the books that says that a cop can shoot you if he feels threatened. That is actually not a very big change. They all carry a stolen "throwdown" gun. After they shoot you they place it in your hand and claim self defense. We have now reached the point where any cop can shoot anybody anytime that they want and get by with it.

If I'm wrong about any of this I'll apologize.

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RIGHTS ARE NOT GIVEN – THEY ARE TAKEN
Posted by: stryder on Nov 12, 2007 2:01 AM   
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“The United States can wage a battle against its enemies without sacrificing freedom, justice and democracy at home.”

No mention, of course, that U.S. “enemies” of endlessly phony “war on terror” are largely a fiction inflicted from 9/11 on by that bloody old Crypto-Fascist regime behind the curtain. A trap that runs DC and its media circus like the horror show for sociopaths it is.

“Obama, Clinton and John Edwards each say that if elected, for example, they will restore habeas corpus, close Guantanamo and halt illegal domestic spying.”

Gee, how fabulous that “leftwing” so-called leaders “say” they will “restore” basic human rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

Anyone who believes word one of this self-serve cushy garbage deserves what’s coming.

Peace…

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Kucinich rarely mentioned on Alternet in Dem primary articles
Posted by: chatareena on Nov 12, 2007 9:00 AM   
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In most places Kucinich is polling ahead of Dodd and Biden and in some areas Richardson, yet Alternet still does not acknowledge him. i wrote to Alternet months ago to complain and got no response. The mainstream media does not acknowledge him, but I expect more from Alternet. This article mentions "forerunners"and brings up candidates who are polling below Kucinich without bringing him up. Can someone at Alternet tell me why? It is REALLY frustrating to see Alternet mimic mainstream media's avoidance of candidates such as Kucinich with REAL, concrete, honest plans and achievements that are in sync with much of America.
Catarina- Riverdale , MD

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Time to scrap this system and make a better one
Posted by: DaBear on Nov 13, 2007 10:36 AM   
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I'm sick and tired of this stupid assed two party bullshit. I knew it was fucked when I was a kid watching Nixon try to blow sunshine out his ass while the rest of the grups stood around pretending everything was fine. Dims & Repukes and their imaginatively bankrupt bullshit have made the whole damned planet a fucking mess and it only gets worse every damned minute they get to stay in charge. Enough.

Dim or Repug, Green savant or Libertarian moron: if you can't live one day in the governmental profession without making new wars, bombs, and destruction or maintaining old ones, if you can't keep yourself for one day from subsidizing the Baron-state and putting the legal-person above the natural-person, if you cannot live for one day on the job without putting money above the planet and everyone's physical and mental health, you've outlived your usefulness. Get the fuck outta the way and shut yer mouth. You don't get to fucking play gubamint anymore. Talk back to we the damned working people of this planet and we'll smack ya. We're your parents and it's time for you to fucking grow up.

---opening lines to the revised U.S. Constitution.

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Ron Paul is a far right extremist,
Posted by: Ellie1 on Nov 14, 2007 1:35 PM   
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and only nutcases support him. It is a lie that he raised so much money in one day-most of it was traced to stollen credit cards.

We don't need another right wing conservative Texan in the White House.

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common sense
Posted by: grkjr on Nov 14, 2007 7:28 PM   
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Over and over again... democrat leadership has done nothing to deserve our support. The mandate that brought them to power has been ignored except for a few bold individuals such a Kucinich in congress and Edwards. Most come on too late and too little. This is especially true of the democratic leadership. We have asked, begged and continue to hope that some progressive democrats will leave the party in unity and start a new proressive party.... but all seem to either be too intimidated by the leadership or do not recoginize that even a minorty of strength, though small in numbers, would be better that a mushy majority. There can be no better time for such a move than now.. When so many people are clear that the democratic leadership has lost its way and will no longer vote for "the least of the two evils" Or maybe the domocrats will find that they sat by too long and will have history judge them as having "fiddled" the time away

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People need constitutions
Posted by: socrates2 on Nov 15, 2007 9:50 AM   
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When will our fellow citizens wake up to a fundamental truth: a powerful government and its bureaucrats and their allies don't need a Constitution. The rich and powerful don't need a Constitution. They can buy off their enemies or raise armies with their money.
It is the poor shlep on the street, yeah, you and me who need a Constitution. We're the ones who have neither funds nor armies to back and/or defend our point of view and "rights."
People with power don't need rights. They have the power to enforce their will any damned time they please. That's why our elected reps do next to nothing. They are allied to power. They don't care about rights.
Once more: that is why People with power have no need for "rights."
Ergo, expect little from your elected official unless he sees numbers either at his mailbox, his answering machine or outside his office.
Otherwise, he will continue to please those who fund his re-elections campaigns...
Remedy: Reform our election finance laws.
NOW...

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Burbank California's Erosion of American Rights
Posted by: KeithRichardRadfordJr on Nov 29, 2007 12:52 PM   
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Regarding Courts and Habeas Corpus
Well today I was told by my attorney that my case was demurer which means the state says so what. So what if you are diabetic and need to enroll in Adult Swim at your YMCA because of injuries for exercise. So what if you are disabled and we made you move. So what if you live a good honest life. So what if when we made you move you were going to school to learn a trade and we disrupted your life during your finals and you could not finish your training. So what if you and your wife who by the way has never done anything to anyone is waking in the middle of the night crying because you stand to be homeless for fear that no one will rent to you. We lived in an apartment in Burbank CA when someone decided to place flyer's at our home about my 23 year old sex offense and get us kicked out of our home. Reminds me of the Quote by Pastor Martin Niemöller: First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. We have one week to come up with a bunch of money to fight for rights Americans are losing because they are better than us. Sorry America we have no money. We are poor week to week surviving on what we have which is less each day. When these laws get done with us, they will not be satisfied.

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