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Supreme Court Upholds Late Abortion Ban: Right-Wing Judicial Activism Run Amok

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted April 18, 2007.


Bush’s court-packing pays off, and Democrats who voted for Scalia and Roberts get their comeuppance.
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Last year, in defending his decision to vote for the confirmation of Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court, Senator Bill Nelson (D-NE) said that it was based, in part, on Alito's "pledge that he would not bring a political agenda to the court."

Today, Nelson and the 18 other Democratic Senators who voted against the attempted filibuster of Alito reaped what they sowed. The new court -- the first in American history made up of a majority of conservative Catholics -- upheld the 2003 ban on so-called "partial birth" abortions, a made-up term that's become a hot-button issue for social conservatives, but is largely based on junk science and flies in the face of medical "best practices." It will go down as a text-book case of right-wing judicial activism, with the justices essentially overruling the medical community.

In upholding the ban, the Supreme Court overturned a critical legal principle that's guided courts for almost two decades: that any restriction on abortion must have an exception for the life and health of the pregnant woman.

That principle was the key to the landmark decision, Stenberg v. Carhart, which overturned a similar ban in Nebraska. Stenberg, while split five to four, was not a wishy-washy decision. The majority found that Nebraska's law violated the constitution as interpreted in both Roe v. Wade and the 1992 case, Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

The Supremes made two important findings in that case. First, the Nebraska ban didn't have an exception for cases when the health of the mother might be threatened. Second, the court found that the ban on "partial-birth abortions" (a term coined by abortion foes that appears nowhere in the medical literature) was too vague and, as such, placed too great a burden on a woman's right to determine her own care.

It's worth noting that Alito cited Carhart in 2000, when, as a member of the Third District Court of Appeals, he voted to strike down New Jersey's ban on late-term abortions. "The New Jersey statute," he wrote, "like its Nebraska counterpart, lacks an exception for the preservation of the health of the mother. Without such an exception, the New Jersey statute is irreconcilable with [Stenberg]. What's more, Alito supported the court's finding that "the Nebraska [ban] applied, not only to the "dilation and extraction" or D & X procedure, but also to the more commonly used D & E procedure." In other words, Alito agreed that the ban could apply to all sorts of otherwise legal abortion procedures.

At the time, many in the forced childbirth movement argued that Alito's decision in the New Jersey case proved that he would not be reliably anti-choice. But as today's ruling shows, he didn't hesitate to overturn Stenberg when he got the chance.

(I should note that Alito and Chief Justice Roberts both declined to join a concurring opinion by Scalia and Thomas that would have overturned Roe v. Wade.)

What's remarkable about the bill upheld by the Supremes today is that about 50 percent of the text is devoted to explaining why Congress is justified in ignoring the court's findings in Stenberg.. The essence of the argument is that Congress has different standards of evidence and needn't consider the same data that the courts looked at. The argument was supported with case law from challenges to the Voting Rights Act and a telecommunications law, neither of which were questions of scientific fact. In overturning Stenberg, the court effectively affirmed the idea -- long popular among the Christian-right -- that the judiciary in general should and can be 'restrained' by legislative bodies.

The text of the law argues that "the great weight of evidence presented at the Stenberg trial and other trials challenging partial-birth abortion bans, as well as at extensive Congressional hearings, demonstrates that a partial-birth abortion is never necessary to preserve the health of a woman." It goes on to say, "A prominent medical association has concluded that partial-birth abortion is 'not an accepted medical practice.'" (Physicians who testified before Congress included members of the Christian Medical and Dental Associations.) The American Medical Association and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, while differing slightly in their positions, both opposed the ban as it was written.


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If immigration is stopped, abortion will be illegal
Posted by: xbj on Apr 18, 2007 10:53 AM   
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It's all about the production of cannon fodder for the elite's endless wars. Abortion prevented the births of several million potential troops but was supplemented by illegal immigration; if the borders are eventually closed as the overwhelming majority of the public demands, then abortion will absolutely be criminalized once again before anyone can even blink.

The meat has to come from somewhere, folks. Abortion would have never been made legal in the first place if the old white male elite at the time weren't terrified of young America, white and black and unified, rioting in the streets. America was inches away from a real revolution; that could never be allowed to happen again, so the powers that be decided to cull the herd with abortion. And a few other tricks like turning black America on each other by selling guns and crack to the inner cities.

Unfortunately, now with an aging baby boomer population too old to fight, there is a shortage of meat for the elite's meat grinder. And it will grow ever larger if they ever close the borders down (which they will be forced to eventually, because to not do so exposes their entire "War" "Against" "Terror" for the absolute imperialist farce it is.)

It's not hard at all to predict future trends one you realize how evil and depraved the people who really run (now) Nazi Amerika truly are.

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Power to the people
Posted by: bison2 on Apr 18, 2007 11:21 AM   
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I hate polls and most are maniputlated to say whatever you want them to say, but all have shown that overwhelmingly the people want partial birth abortion banned. No politician no matter how left and how they believe will even support this. So as your article states the people through the legislative branch should decide this. So why is this article not about how the people got what they have always wanted. I will tell you why. You do not tell the news you push your agenda as most of the media does. I personally believe if you cut a babies head off it is murder. I do not care how old he or she is. So I applaud the decision as one step closer to saving lives. A innocent human being that never has made a choice or done anything wrong always has rights over the adult.

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» RE: Power to the people Posted by: daniel1982
» RE: Power to the people Posted by: daniel1982
» RE: Power to the people Posted by: daniel1982
» RE: Power to the people Posted by: ch12451
» RE: Power to the people Posted by: lulu
» RE: Power to the people Posted by: munchkinpup
» Propaganda does not equal TRUTH Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice
» RE: Power to the people Posted by: chip90043
the 5 Roman Catholic justices in favor
Posted by: goatini on Apr 18, 2007 11:44 AM   
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of this evil deed display a depraved indifference to human life. to fly in the face of established medical science, and sentence some women to certain death in a worst-case scenario, demonstrates that these justices see the Constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to be limited to the male of the species only.

Sharia law has just been enacted by what used to be OUR Supreme Court. Our legislators MUST take action to reverse this bill, and Justices Alito, Thomas, Scalia, Roberts and Kennedy MUST be impeached.

i am old enough to remember back when narrow-minded Americans were afraid of John Kennedy's Catholicism, and spread hate and fear by saying that he would take orders from the Pope. and now we have 5 SCOTUS justices, taking orders from the Pope.

"The Handmaid's Tale" is coming to be in America. we must fight against these Christo-Fascist religious extremists and rid our country of their evil, hatred, and fear-mongering.

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» The Handmaid's Tale Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice
Interesting...
Posted by: Derek Maddox on Apr 18, 2007 12:07 PM   
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I find it interesting that when Justice Alito voted to strike down at least two previous bans on partial birth abortions, he was praised as the model of judicial moderation and temperence. Yet, with one vote to uphold a properly worded (by definition) ban, he's guilty of judical activision "run amok".

Doesn't take much to go from a sheep to a wolf in this crowd, does it?

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» RE: Interesting... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Interesting... Posted by: xbj
» RE: Interesting... Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: Interesting... Posted by: jmonday
Read the Opinion before you read this article
Posted by: EncinoM on Apr 18, 2007 12:18 PM   
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First I do take offense to the authors comments about Catholics on the bench. Are we to have a religous litmus test for Justices? Would you comment if Justice Ginsburg wrote the opinion, about Jews on the bench.

Also the focus on Alito is misplaced, as Justice KEnnedy wrote the opinion. Looking at the history of aborotion jurispurdence, Chief Justice Reinquest (sp?), would of signed onto the opinion and with the defference given to Casey, it is likely so would have Justice O'Connor.

The Opinion itself, doesn't change anything. The courts holding in Casey is still the controlling law. What the court is saying is that a legislative body, within the frameworks of Casey can regulate the types of aborotion proceddures preformed. Legislative bodies, (whether state or federal),either directly or through agencies have since the start of modern medice regulated procedures. Medical licenses, FDA approval of drugs, devices and procedures are all forms of legislative regulations.

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» Thin skin ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Thin skin ... Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: Thin skin ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: but it's a tough read Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: full opinion at: Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: but it's a tough read Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: exactly Posted by: Ripcord
» "sophisticated" = facetious Posted by: goatini
» Is there no end to the spin? Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice
» Here's what's clear: We need FOCA. Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice
» Yes, I want equal rights under the law. Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice
Abortion after 18 weeks is not even allowed in Sweden
Posted by: Swedish liberal on Apr 18, 2007 1:46 PM   
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Personally I hold that abortion is a women’s prerogative and her decision alone, it should not be based on religious morals but abortion after week 18, you got to be kidding me.

In Sweden one of the most secularised countries and most pro women’s rights has a limit set on 18 weeks, the limit is set when the foetus can sustain it itself put of the foetus i.e today premature babies can live after week 22-25. In Sweden abortion is allowed after week 18 is allowed only for social reasons 48 %, physical or genetic damage to foetus 48 %, psychiatric disorder 2 % and physical disorder 2 %. In Sweden 2005 these were 300.

When I moved to the US I did not understand the debate ProChoice or ProLife. I assumed that the ProChoice peolpe were religious kooks and crazies. To my utter horror I have come to understand that abortion past week 18 is not only common but the norm. I am beginning to wonder whether the most radical ProChoice advocates is not of the same ilk as the extreme Christian Right, kooks and crazies, ideology/religion before science and fact.

In Sweden most pregnancies are terminated before week 6 or at latest week 12 if going past this you need solid medical evidence that it is something wrong with the foetus or the mother has to show in a very rigours counselling that her social situation is such that she cannot take care of her child. However she has always the right to terminate up to week 18 but she will have to undergo therapy and severe investigations.

If it is as I have come to understand that terminations are allowed beyond 18 weeks without cause, then I am outraged.

Being an atheist I do not give a sh*t about when a foetus is seen to be a human being, leave god out of this but as a secular humanist I am abhorred that terminations is allowed after a foetus live outside the body.

But I am also appalled by the frequency of teen age pregnancies. How ignorant can the US people be not to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies? I have somewhere read the statistics on teen age mothers and their children’s raised statistical probability in becoming criminals and/or drug addicts.

(Although I am personally not fond of the medicine that makes it possible to allow younger and younger foetuses’ survive since most very premature babies have severe physical and medical impairments as to make life not worth living. But science is science and should not be manipulated with because of ideology or religion. Either the foetus can live or it can not.)

Statistics

At what point in the pregnancy are women having abortions?

In [the US] 2001, 59 percent of abortions occurred at less than nine weeks gestation; 19 percent occurred between nine and 10 weeks gestation; 10 percent occurred between 11 and 12 weeks gestation; 6 percent between 13 and 15 weeks gestation; 4 percent between 16 and 20 weeks gestation; and 1 percent at 21 weeks gestation or more.

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» Blatant innacuracy--WE NEED FOCA! Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice
» Free choice yes but.... Posted by: Swedish liberal
» Obviously Wrong Posted by: skewitall
Many evangelicals opposed to abortion are hypocrites.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 18, 2007 2:21 PM   
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As does Bush and his rightwing Christian pals, I oppose abortion. However, unlike them, my view is strictly personal. Having raised three daughters, given the power, I would never deny women the right to choose -- especially in rape cases. Here again, many rightwing evangelicals and I agree, which shows what phony Christians they are.

If they really believed that life in the womb was sacred and should be protected, then why kill a fetus whose father is an accused rapist or might even be innocent? Shouldn't that baby be allowed to grow up and pursue a life of its own, no matter how the pregnancy occurred?

A REAL Christian would answer unequivocally, "Yes!" But not the so-called true believers in Bush's political base, virtually all them white people. The rape exception allows them to eliminate an embarrassment of the worst kind -- having their precious Caucasian daughters give birth to the babies of black men.

It's all about racism and ego. I know. I worked in Atlanta, Georgia, for Delta Air Lines after retiring early from Continental. During my nine years in DAL management, many white male colleagues told me privately a black baby would never be born in their family, even if it meant getting an illegal abortion for their wayward daughter. Why? To protect her precious born-again reputation, of course, to the extent of killing an innocent human being, which is just fine with Shrub the Charlatan and his hypocritical Bible-pounding groupies.

Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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» RE: I'm a hypocrite Posted by: Ripcord
» What about Failure to Baptize ?? Posted by: AdamSelene40
No Brainwaves = No Baby
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Apr 18, 2007 2:30 PM   
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How do you determine death.

Not by the heart stopping.
No brainwaves means NO PERSON IS PRESENT. You can pull the plug.

At the beginning of life the litmus test is quite simple, too.
Brainwaves present? Then, you can say that life is there.
No brainwaves yet? No life has taken hold. It's just a MASS OF TISSUE.

I'm pretty liberal, but I think there is a definite line you can draw. Brainwaves is that line and it's USED TODAY.

Exceptions for health of the mother are always welcome.

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» RE: not legally relevant Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: of course Posted by: Ripcord
» RE: study the Terri Shiavo case Posted by: LeaderofMen
Why don't anti-abortionists protect sperm, too?
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 18, 2007 4:20 PM   
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They have tails, can swim and certainly have a purpose in life.

Okay, so sperms don't have brains. But neither does a one-day-old human embryo. Sounds like sex discrimination to me.

I DEMAND an end to the killing of innocent infant MAN-life!

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What is banned
Posted by: Jim on Apr 19, 2007 5:56 AM   
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It would be instructive to read the definition of partial birth abortion as legally defined in the partial birth abortion law, found at the
Government Printing Office website.

"
(b) As used in this section--
``(1) the term `partial-birth abortion' means an abortion in
which the person performing the abortion--
``(A) deliberately and intentionally vaginally
delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-
first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech
presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the
mother, for the purpose of performing an overt act that
the person knows will kill the partially delivered
living fetus; and
``(B) performs the overt act, other than completion
of delivery, that kills the partially delivered living
fetus"

I have not seen an explanation on how this is "unduly vague." The rest of the law is quite readable, also, and explains much of the reasoning behind the act.

Also note the law provides, "This subsection does not apply to a partial-birth
abortion that is necessary to save the life of a mother whose life is
endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury,
including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising
from the pregnancy itself. "


This does not seem to be "right wing judicial activism" to me.
"Judicial activism" is when the judges create law, not uphold the constitutionality of a law passed by Congress.

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» RE: What is banned Posted by: lrrysgl
» RE: What is banned Posted by: yellow
Actually....
Posted by: xenacat on Apr 19, 2007 6:24 AM   
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Most of the comments posted today are the usual anti-choice bullshit that you hear. Nothing new and nothing that would actually change a true progressive's mind on the idea that religious freaks (including fuax swedes) are completely and totally obsessed by this issue. There is the usual self-rightous, misinformed, hypocritical concern about the fetus but no concern for anything beyond that. Rave on, freaks. You will eventually cause the anti-christian backlash you so fear. The overwelming majority of people in this country prefer that matters related to sexuality, abortion and birth control be kept personal matters. So, enjoy your brief day in the sun. The rest of us are sick of your ingnorant, meddling shit.

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» RE: Actually.... Posted by: robmikejas
Way to go Supremes.....5 of you anyway.
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Apr 19, 2007 6:26 AM   
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Its a great day today to read that the first strike against the BAD LAW of Roe vs Wade has been struck. You whining enablers to child murder are just beginning to see your comeuppence for the decades of chimera law foisted on this country by left wing ACLU types who couldn't get the right to murder the unborn through the legislative process. Its a small but very significant step to undoing the legal travesty of Roe. Hell....even some noteworthy left wing lawyer types have said that Roe was based on nothing constitutional. There is no right to an abortion in the constitution. I only hope that we get to see another conservative administration appoint at least one more judge on the conservative side who will render opinions based on what the constitution actually says and not on what a left wing socialist thinks it should say. It won't be Bush making the next appointment I would think but hopefully the next Republican (and hopefully conservative Republican) will get to choose replacements for the likes of Ruth "buzzie" Ginsberg and David 'da louse" Souter. We need more Scalia's and Alito's to undo the mess liberals have made of American Jurisprudence.

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» Bring it on, moron Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma
» Privacy Posted by: ssmit355
Partial-birth abortions and Roe v. Wade
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Apr 19, 2007 8:28 AM   
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The current makeup of the Congress and Supreme Court is likely to produce national strife over issues that are truly beyond the scope of either. Any decision to terminate a pregnancy is laden with moral, psychological and scientific issues that are personal and should embrace the considered counsel of the mother, putative father, doctor and religious mentor. In that deliberative process, fetal rights will no doubt be as protected and honored as any accorded children in life. To argue otherwise is a repudiation of the parental role and its substitution with the whims and vagaries of politicians and special interest groups. The recent decision is both unworthy and divisive, it can only fan the flames of hatred that seek to criminalize the decisions made by any woman to terminate a pregnancy based solely on a fundamentalists rationale that cannot and has never withstood reasoned scholarship. It is the building block for a frontal or backdoor assault on Roe v. Wade, but how many have read the seminal decision in that case and understand the issues presented for court determination? Who were the plaintiffs and defendant(s)? What constitutional or civil rights were at issue and why did the Warren Court choose to hear and decide the case? Few that I have ever discussed the case with can answer any of those questions. Moreover, if abortion is an utterly repugnant concept at any stage of a pregnancy then what possible morality can be violated by preventing its occurrence? Some would argue that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and I concur. When the fundamentalists endorse and promote prevention and planning, perhaps we can dead docket the abortion wars. Will it happen? No, stupidity and hatred are the hallmarks of right-wing zealots and the good preachers that do their bidding will find much favor in Congress and the Supreme Court. Besides, there's a helluva lot of money being raised in the name of Christian and family values that will extend such wars ad nauseum.

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What Would Hitler Do?
Posted by: lrrysgl on Apr 19, 2007 9:02 AM   
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“I’ll put an end to the idea that a woman’s body belongs to her. The practice of abortion shall be exterminated with a strong hand.”

--Adolf Hitler, Mein Kompf

Hitler followed through be sentencing women who had an abortion to hard labor. On their second offense they were sentenced to death.

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» wow Posted by: Beck
EFK
Posted by: eknight751 on Apr 19, 2007 10:57 AM   
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I couldn't agree more. My generation fought hard for the right to a safe, legal abortion. The younger generation became used to having this option. It will be whittled away now by the right-wingers who are hippocrites because they limit abortion while at the same time cutting benefits for poor women and children. So, younger generation, if you want the Government's hands on your bodies, do nothing. If you don't, you had better start to fight.

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bildab
Posted by: Barger on Apr 19, 2007 10:57 AM   
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Now we can call the Supreme Court "Vatican West."

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It is a horrible procedure but
Posted by: TheNamelessCity on Apr 19, 2007 11:10 AM   
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the assholes on the Supreme Court are not REALLY interested in saving babies. What they want is to control women's bodies, control personal life and end privacy, impose white male old fart wealthy religion on everyone (especially the middle and lower classes) and work toward a theocracy, or its near equivalent. Old white religious fart men are still iin power and are intent upon reestablishing the pre-WW2 state of affairs in the US. And Americans are apparently too dumb to see it, so then we deserve what we get. If anyone REALLY cared about saving children, then prices of childcare would not be so high, public education would be more than adequate, and unwed motherhood and teen pregnancy would not be so stigmatizing. The real issue is reasserting the hypocritical, patriarchical theocracy...not saving babies.

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Please Define Partial Birth Abortion...
Posted by: yellow on Apr 19, 2007 11:33 AM   
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No one has ever really defined Partial Birth Abortion (PBA). This is no accident. The catch phrase is deliberately vague for political purposes. It is to create a false impression so that the issue can be heavily distorted to the detriment of reproductive rights. And by the looks of the current Supreme Court ruling is has worked. Now abortion rights everywhere are in grave danger.

PBA is more a slogan than an actual procedure. No baby has ever been aborted at the stage where it is actually being delivered or at the point that it is so close to birth it is viable without the mother. This is lie promoted by fanatics to ban ALL abortions. The people who spew this line are generally against birth control as well. Clearly, second trimester abortions are in danger and women could potentially die from the effects of the law that disallows the procedure in the case of the health risk to the mother's life. Justice Kennedy, who wrote the majority opinion himself decried as false the statement in the congressional bill that said PBA was never medically necessary. And PBA is still a vague slogan and not a real medical procedure.

The courts need to restore committment to Roe vs. Wade now. Women have an unqualified legal right to an abortion, period!!

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There is a word for not being allowed to decide for yourself-
Posted by: WitchyNy on Apr 19, 2007 11:53 AM   
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SLAVERY

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» exactly Posted by: Beck
THE RETURN OF THE BOYS CLUB
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 19, 2007 2:50 PM   
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Without analyzing the Supreme Court decision it's reassuring to know that once again the old geezers are deciding what's best for us. The younger women should learn from this. We have to guard our rights like mother hens. Some SOB is waiting to put us back in our place. Where ever he thinks that is. To be fair it's not so with all men. Thanks, ANNA

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Those Democrats Should Be Outed
Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 19, 2007 4:33 PM   
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I don't know why any Democrat would assume at this point that there's any percentage in approving ANYTHING the Bush Administration proposes, but obviously, some senators were attempting to appear "reasonable" when they voted for Alito and Roberts. Let's see a list, and let's put them on notice. Republicans take no prisoners, and Democrats should respond appropriately. The "partial birth abortion" is a Trojan horse.

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I, for one, refuse to be persuaded by propaganda machines.
Posted by: MyBodyMyChoice on Apr 19, 2007 5:54 PM   
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Here's what I know: I want the right to choose whether or not to continue or terminate a pregnancy in my own body. I do not want my government to legislate my morality or my uterus. I'll take care of those things myself, thank you.

I also do not want women in my country who are in the unfortunate situation of being in a second trimester of pregnancy and facing a serious health risk not to have access to the health care they need. That's just wrong.

I believe that women are capable of making these decisions for themselves. I think it's a real pity that some people have let unethical rhetoric that distorts the truth persuade them. Look at the ethical and credible organizations out there who are opposed to the Supreme Court's ban.

I also believe that right wing politicians are using issues such as this one to divide our nation in an effort to gain power. This is why I choose to think for myself and why I refuse to be persuaded by unethical rhetoric.

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munchkinpup
Posted by: munchkinpup on Apr 19, 2007 7:45 PM   
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I want to thank Joshua Holland for an excellent and well researched piece. It is greatly appreciated.

Every progressive SHOULD HAVE KNOWN that this would be the outcome when Bush "Runs Amok!"

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terminology
Posted by: Gloria Feldt on Apr 21, 2007 3:36 PM   
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Thank you for an excellent article. However, the federal abortion ban upheld by the Court says nothing about gestation of pregnancy and the techniques of abortion now banned are used as early as the 12th week of pregnancy. The term "late term" is inaccurate. It most usually refers to the third trimester when abortions are already banned in most states. Language is important.

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What do we have in common?
Posted by: fanny666 on Apr 21, 2007 4:10 PM   
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What do "we" on the activist Left have in common with pro-lifers?

Maybe some things we can focus on:

Death Penalty

stop breaking the non-proliferation treaty

Ending Torture

accountability for the war crimes in Falluja

diplomacy before war

stop supporting dictators

I can dream, can't I?

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When Human Consciousness Begins
Posted by: txbodhi on Apr 23, 2007 2:40 PM   
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In past centuries the Christian Church believed that the 'soul' entered the fetus at the so called ‘quickening’ when the fetus was 60 days old. Interestingly studies show that the first disorganized bursts of electrical waves in the emerging brain begins at about 60 days. Though current Buddhist teachers claim rebirth consciousness begins at conception there is a passage where Buddha said that rebirth consciousness begins when the physical basis for mental consciousness is formed and when the differentiation between male and female first arises. Thus from older sources it could be interpreted that use of pills before day 60 to abort an early fetus would not incur any bad karma. Organized brain waves begin by the early 4th month and hypnosis can only retrieve memories back to the 4th month. Pain receptors are not fully functioning until the 4th month, thus by the 4th months abortion cause significant pain to the fetus. Thus I do not think that abortion should be legal in the second and third trimester. Using pills in the early phase when there is no pain on the other hand would not cause any significant karma. Though I’m a long term peace activist for the Viet Nam, anti-nuke and Kucinich campaigns and an ex-hippie eco-freak I’m also a meditating vipassana yogi and feel that too much of the feminist movement has been too anti-nurturing and too pro-capitalist. There is a statistical correlation between women who have had an abortion being more in favor of the death penalty than women in general. I think that women who abort past early stage harden their hearts and lessen their loving-kindness. Wanting women on the front lines of war and for babies to be sliced and diced is not the way to spiritual androgyny but just worsens the duality of the unenlightened mind. Peace, Ken

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