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Rights and Liberties

A Constitutional Crisis

By Al Gore, AlterNet. Posted January 17, 2006.


The former vice president warns us what can happen without congressional oversight over a defiant White House.
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Editor's Note: Following is the text of a speech delivered by Al Gore in Washington, D.C. on January 16. Gore was introduced by former Republican congressman Bob Barr, an arch-conservative advocate of privacy rights.

Congressman Barr and I have disagreed many times over the years, but we have joined together today with thousands of our fellow citizens -- Democrats and Republicans alike -- to express our shared concern that America's Constitution is in grave danger.

In spite of our differences over ideology and politics, we are in strong agreement that the American values we hold most dear have been placed at serious risk by the unprecedented claims of the Administration to a truly breathtaking expansion of executive power.

As we begin this new year, the Executive Branch of our government has been caught eavesdropping on huge numbers of American citizens and has brazenly declared that it has the unilateral right to continue without regard to the established law enacted by Congress to prevent such abuses.

It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored.

So, many of us have come here to Constitution Hall to sound an alarm and call upon our fellow citizens to put aside partisan differences and join with us in demanding that our Constitution be defended and preserved.

It is appropriate that we make this appeal on the day our nation has set aside to honor the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who challenged America to breathe new life into our oldest values by extending its promise to all our people.

On this particular Martin Luther King Day, it is especially important to recall that for the last several years of his life, Dr. King was illegally wiretapped -- one of hundreds of thousands of Americans whose private communications were intercepted by the U.S. government during this period.

The FBI privately called King the "most dangerous and effective negro leader in the country" and vowed to "take him off his pedestal." The government even attempted to destroy his marriage and blackmail him into committing suicide.

This campaign continued until Dr. King's murder. The discovery that the FBI conducted a long-running and extensive campaign of secret electronic surveillance designed to infiltrate the inner workings of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and to learn the most intimate details of Dr. King's life, helped to convince Congress to enact restrictions on wiretapping.

The result was the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act (FISA), which was enacted expressly to ensure that foreign intelligence surveillance would be presented to an impartial judge to verify that there is a sufficient cause for the surveillance. I voted for that law during my first term in Congress and for almost thirty years the system has proven a workable and valued means of according a level of protection for private citizens, while permitting foreign surveillance to continue.

Yet, just one month ago, Americans awoke to the shocking news that in spite of this long settled law, the Executive Branch has been secretly spying on large numbers of Americans for the last four years and eavesdropping on "large volumes of telephone calls, email messages, and other Internet traffic inside the United States." The New York Times reported that the President decided to launch this massive eavesdropping program "without search warrants or any new laws that would permit such domestic intelligence collection."

During the period when this eavesdropping was still secret, the President went out of his way to reassure the American people on more than one occasion that, of course, judicial permission is required for any government spying on American citizens and that, of course, these constitutional safeguards were still in place.

But surprisingly, the President's soothing statements turned out to be false. Moreover, as soon as this massive domestic spying program was uncovered by the press, the President not only confirmed that the story was true, but also declared that he has no intention of bringing these wholesale invasions of privacy to an end.

At present, we still have much to learn about the NSA's domestic surveillance. What we do know about this pervasive wiretapping virtually compels the conclusion that the President of the United States has been breaking the law repeatedly and persistently.

A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government. Our Founding Fathers were adamant that they had established a government of laws and not men. Indeed, they recognized that the structure of government they had enshrined in our Constitution -- our system of checks and balances -- was designed with a central purpose of ensuring that it would govern through the rule of law. As John Adams said: "The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them, to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men."


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Let us hope this excellent speech has carry thru
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Jan 17, 2006 1:06 AM   
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Too bad the Supreme Court elected Bush instead of Gore.

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» PRESIDENT GORE 2008! Posted by: Qwerty
» RE: PRESIDENT GORE 2008! Posted by: YogiBear
Let us hope this excellent speech has carry thru
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Jan 17, 2006 1:06 AM   
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Too bad the Supreme Court elected Bush instead of Gore.

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Let us hope this excellent speech has carry thru
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Jan 17, 2006 1:06 AM   
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Too bad the Supreme Court elected Bush instead of Gore.

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MargoM
Posted by: MargoM on Jan 17, 2006 3:06 AM   
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I was there yesterday at the Daughters of the Revolution Hall. He covered more territory than I expected he would - and I was glad for that!

It was also televized on CSpan, so I hope that maybe it will give some impetus to an effort to address some Washington issues -- including the NSA & FBI eavesdropping, protection for executive branch whistleblowers, the lobbying mess, etc.

His speach was pretty powerful and got several standing ovations. I couldn't help but think of the book I read a couple years "The Cheating Culture" about corruption in the U.S. in all sorts of arenas (i.e., academic, corporate, government, sports, etc.). There is NO RESPECT for the rule of law in the United States, or it is greatly undermined. And to think that it is even at the very top levels - past even Martha Stewart and Enron - up to the leaders of our country. Something has to be done. But I think that it is also cultural, like the book "The Cheating Culture" says.

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» RE: MargoM Posted by: Samantha Vimes
» RE: MargoM Posted by: mmacb
God Bless Al Gore... BRAVO Mr. Gore !!!
Posted by: WizardATMz on Jan 17, 2006 3:42 AM   
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I watched Al Gore on CSPAN about an hour ago. I felt relief. As a Canadian, I have been extemely saddend to watch as your great country seems to be evolving into some sort of Big Brother Imperialistic, if not Facist Dictatorship. And the loss of rights and abuses of your Constitution seemed to this observer to be fast tracking... kind of like Bush saying if you don't like what I'm doing or how I do it, then you must be in support of Terrorism... "yer either with me, or agin me".

Besides verifying what I, and many of you suspected, I am hoping that Al Gores speech becomes a rallying point for all Americans to hold the Executive Branch ACCOUNTABLE. They will fight like bastards I am sure to squash and silence any and all opposition. I think they think they are unstoppable (I was beginning to think that was the case and the Free World as we knew it was on a fast track to a police state where your Constitution could be suspended very easily under any guise that suited the purpose of the day.
The rule of law is what this is all about, and for Americans to stand by timidly while the Executive Branch rewrites or interprets the laws to suit their own diabolical purposes, shows just how far this Adminsitration has gone when the whole country is scared to stand up and challenge this obvious disregard... as if Mr. Almighty and his band of gangsters are above the law... I think not. Although it was beginning to appear that way to me.
I also think, that when someone of Al Gores stature stands up and iterates the message I heard tonight, then I also think that sort of gesture will encourage average Americans to wake up and get the ball rolling to get rid of your current President, or failing that, at least hold the Administration accountable for their abuses and total disregard for the Constitution of The United States of American.
The framers of your constitution knew of what they spoke, and I feel any attempt to thwart or minimize the power of your constitution should be dealt with swiftly, and clearly and in a non-partisan manner.
Gore's speech certainly gave this cynic hope... and that has been sadly lacking of late.
Bravo Mr. Gore... finally someone with balls enough to take on his imperial highness and tell it like it is, and further, offer up real workable solutions to reign in these egomaniacs, and put the power back where it belongs... into the hands of the people.

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CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW
Posted by: rabblerowzer on Jan 17, 2006 3:55 AM   
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CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW

“In the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll, 51 percent said that "wiretapping of telephone calls and e-mails without court approval" was an acceptable tool for the federal government to use when investigating terrorism. Forty-seven percent said it was an unacceptable for the government to use those methods in order to catch suspected terrorists.”

Nothing prevented this administration from legally wiretapping telephone calls and e-mails, so why did they choose to do it illegally? What are they hiding?

For years Republicans has espoused contempt for government which in turn has encouraged contempt for the law. Our society is infected with widespread corruption which has filtered down from anti-government ideologues serving as elected and appointed public servants. When presidents, congressman and judges promote and demonstrate contempt for the law, lawlessness becomes the law of the land.

The lesson they are teaching is: Law-abiding citizens are fools. Join us together in corruption, crime is the fast track to riches.

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» RE: CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW Posted by: patti_s
And now...
Posted by: Urstrly on Jan 17, 2006 4:04 AM   
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While every word out of Al Gore's mouth has the ring of truth, the fact is that MLK lived his talk, and we are all going to have to do something more than applaud speeches if we are to stop this imperial presidency. I am still angry that Gore and John Kerry conceded their contests with Bush so quickly; the presidency was not theirs to toss away in a gentlemanly gesture. We were robbed. So I'm not sure who Al Gore is lecturing. We know the President acted illegally. We know that Alito will help consolidate executive power. We know the Senate Democrats are not going to muster a filibuster to stop him. Gore will retreat now to his personal corporate hideaway until he makes another pronouncement. What are we going to DO?

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Perverse Grand Standing Mr. Gore.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 17, 2006 5:08 AM   
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“It is imperative that respect for the rule of law be restored.”

Dear Mr. Gore, there are two things hypocritical with your suggestion: first, your administration under Mr. Clinton also had gross disrespect for the law. For example, you were caught soliciting campaign contributions from the White House; Mr. Clinton lied under oath, and he commenced a war in Yugoslavia without a constitutionally required declaration of war. These offenses were disrespect of the law by leaders who knew or should have known better.

No, a respect for the law is not what is lacking in American politics. What is needed is an ethical, critical thinking population who will not coddle grand standing or rogue politicians. We have only ourselves to blame.

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» Actually I have! LOL Posted by: Pepper
» RE: Actually I have! LOL Posted by: gonzoskismet
» RE:Most excelent, Pepper! I am impressed! Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
» RE: Perverse Grand Standing Mr. Gore. Posted by: liberalibrarian
» yeah... Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: yeah... Posted by: doodles
Bicker, Bicker, Bicker
Posted by: Riverside on Jan 17, 2006 5:18 AM   
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Folks, for the sake of this nation and our rights thereunder, lets stop the bickering about Gore, Kerry, etc. Let's read the words, they are the first real call to action since all this mess started.

No, we don't go get out muskets and head for some new "Bunker Hill." We get organized, we make sure our votes are recorded and counted, and we begin the process in this mid-election year of revitalizing our Congress. At the same time, we need to mount letter, phone call, word of mouth, email, even morse code campaigns to pass the word that its is time for we the people to come together as one. We can get back to the business of our particular political philosophies AFTER we save this nation. Right now, none of our political philosophies are doing anything to save this country and thus our liberty.

There are many members of Congress who feel as we do and they belong to both parties. We need to give them our unified support. We need to bury the hate that has been manufactured between us, and get back together.

We are Americans, and we are a great nation in trouble. As always it is "we the people" who come together to help, and now is that time. Lets not fail America or ourselves.

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» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: douglashoyt
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Riverside
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Pepper
» if your beliefs include... Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: What the hell are you talking about??!! Posted by: Againstthewindwalking
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: HuckFinn
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Roverton
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» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: doodles
» RE: Bicker, Bicker, Bicker Posted by: Ellen Remore
Why Blame Republicans?
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 17, 2006 5:20 AM   
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You should know that the Democrats are just as guilty in disrespect for the law.

What are we going to do?

First, the people must gain meaningful control of the election system. Half the voters don't vote, I believe, because the available candidates have no relevence to the voters belief system.

We need proportional representation in todays America. 200 years ago, this nation was 3 million northern European population. The native Americans and blacks were disenfrancized.

Today, we are 300 million of creeds from every part of the globe. And everyone, except convicted felons, can vote.

Then there are voting machines...

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Where is the word "impeach"?
Posted by: artie on Jan 17, 2006 5:22 AM   
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Why doesn't Gore actually use the words "impeach" or "impeachment"? To allow himself the truthful denial, "I never actually stated that the President should be impeached or that impeachment proceedings should commence. That is simply a misconstrual of my words"? And why not?
Let's recall Twain's characterization of Congress, as fitting today as ever: "The best that money can buy!"

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Gore for President
Posted by: johncleek on Jan 17, 2006 5:51 AM   
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Isn't it rather strange that in all the talk about finding a suitable candidate for 2008, there isn't a movement to draft Al Gore to run?

We elected him once, and let the courts steal the office. Look what it got us. We need to draft the best qualified candidate and see to it that the plurality is too great to be overturned by the Court.

John Cleek

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» GORE FOR PRESIDENT 2008 Posted by: Qwerty
FINALLY, someone of stature and high exposure is speaking out!
Posted by: Pepper on Jan 17, 2006 5:52 AM   
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I can't believe it has taken 4 years for that to happen when many of us saw this within 4 months of 9-11. If you believe in the SYSTEM and not the "MAN" it would have been obvious to you. (At least it was to me)

I appreciate his call to action and his pointing out our role in this and our responsibility to fix it. We are, after all, the "PEOPLE" referenced in that great document. Now we need to make our reps and senators RECALL AND RECITE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE TO REMIND THEM OF THEIR DUTY TO THEIR MASTERS (US). They are the servants and we are the masters.

Government is what the Constitution was drafted for: to protect those inherent rights given to us by God and can not be taken away by man. LETS NEVER FORGET THAT AND FEAR WILL GO BY THE WAYSIDE.

Here is something for 'Doug' since he seems to have lost his way with respect to our system of governance (thats if he ever had a path in that direction):

"No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid.
To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater
than his principal; that the servant is above the master;
that the representatives of the people are superior to the people;
that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers
do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that
the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives
of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents.
A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as
fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance
between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute."

-- Alexander Hamilton

Try reading and engage in some depth of learning there, Doug, so you understand the issues at hand. It would be sad if your TV is your only source of knowledge. You would be doomed to thoughtless blind adherence to your slave master in the end. LOL

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» " Nah, nah. " Posted by: Pepper
Related Issues.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 17, 2006 6:35 AM   
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"Noam Chomsky: George Bush would be in severe political trouble if there were an opposition political party in the country. Just about every day, they're shooting themselves in the foot. The striking fact about contemporary American politics is that the Democrats are making almost no gain from this. The only gain that they're getting is that the Republicans are losing support. Now, again, an opposition party would be making hay, but the Democrats are so close in policy to the Republicans that they can't do anything about it. When they try to say something about Iraq, George Bush turns back to them, or Karl Rove turns back to them, and says, "How can you criticize it? You all voted for it." And, yeah, they're basically correct."

"http://www.zmag.org/content/
showarticle.cfm?SectionID=
15&ItemID=9533"

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» RE: elated Issues. Posted by: liberalibrarian
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» RE: elated Issues. Posted by: YogiBear
Gonzalez strikes back?
Posted by: bookwoman on Jan 17, 2006 8:35 AM   
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I heard this morning that Attorney General Gonzalez reported, on television on Sunday, that the Clinton Administration also spied on U. S. citizens. I guess he claims they wrote down license numbers or something like that. At any rate, it was so innocuous that the phrase "grasping at straws" entered my mind.

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Fear trumps Outrage
Posted by: doodles on Jan 17, 2006 8:51 AM   
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Gore missed a bet. He didn't say long or loud enough that the Bushes of this world want people to be afraid. I keep waiting for "the People" to get really angry at this administration's continuing efforts to frighten them. Instead a majority of them seem to have bought into it and are reacting accordingly. There is a line from an old movie, "Keeper of the Flame," in which the Nazi sympathizer's thought are read: "If you can frighten the people, you can confuse them. And if you can confuse them, you can control them." That's why Churchill and Roosevelt talked to the people about not being afraid. Fear is now and has always been the enemy of democracy. Until "the People" are more angry about being afraid than they are afraid, nothing will change. It's time for people to get mad and they need a leader that will help them get mad. Our way of life is in mortal danger. Our Constitution, our rights are being ignored. It is up to us to demand that it be stopped. But we need someone to rally around. I don't see anyone yet who can be the rally point, not Gore, and certainly not Hillary. Will someone with gumption and eloquence please step up?

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» RE: Fear trumps Outrage Posted by: YogiBear
Mr. Gore, please lead your people.
Posted by: hanex on Jan 17, 2006 8:52 AM   
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Unfortunately, speeches are not going to do anything. If you want change you will have to make change. Take a look at what Martin Luther King's life was like. He didn't get up every morning, browse to alternet and forward emails he agreed with, HE WORKED FOR CHANGE.

Mr. Gore will need to mobilize americans if he wants to push this issue. What happened to activism? Are we just so pacive and naive that we think these problems will solve themselves? Why does it take Cindy Sheehan or Michael Moore to launch massive rallies. If these are the people who are leading, then maybe they should get elected. I agree with Mr. Gore, BUT, it reminds me of a line from Braveheart.

"These are your people, and if you would just lead them, they would follow you".

Mr. Gore, your people need action now, not words.

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» RE: Mr. Gore, please lead your people. Posted by: liberalibrarian
» PRESIDENT GORE 2008! Posted by: Qwerty
The issue at hand is both for Republicans and Democrats to heed--
Posted by: gh on Jan 17, 2006 9:06 AM   
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This is for all of us to do something. This isn't just Republicans or Democrats who brought us to this point. It is We the People who allowed it to get to this point, and still we bicker, namecall, and pick at trivia.

I don't care if 'John Doe' gave the speech; there's truth in every statement. I'm glad Al Gore gave it because he has name recognition. The point, however, is not the speaker, or the party. The point is in what has been said.

We, the people, what have we become? Watch TV ads and see what large corporations think appeals to us. It doesn't make me proud.

The measure of mankind is how well do we treat our poor, our disabled, our homeless, our needy and our sick? AND how well do we treat and educate our children, those just growing to be, and those in the midst of being--all of them--children.

It isn't pretty.

And only all of us together can change what is going on right now, right today.

Each of us apart, well, there is no power in separatism when it comes to We, the people.

Step one, it seems to me, is to demand impeachment of Bush and Cheney. Demand so loud and so long that We, the People, will be heard.

This point reached where this President is at--he didn't get there on his own. He had help. Like Gore says, this movement of power to the president started long before this fool came in office. (This creature just made it more obvious, more blatant, and therefore, all the more insulting by his actions.)

So, now what?

Georgia Hedrick
retired teacher

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Weak
Posted by: ScottP on Jan 17, 2006 9:11 AM   
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While I agree with Gore on most points, what is not said is most telling.

For example, he says "we still have much to learn about the NSA's domestic surveillance". The way I remember it, by the time he was VP, the NSA had already established virtually complete surveillance of domestic communications. Yes, all phone calls. That's how they can collect the key ones, by listening to all. I don't recall him ever suggesting cutting NSA funding in retaliation, therefor he implicitly approved it.

He goes on to support the war on terror, claiming it's a serious threat. Come on, where does it appear in the cause-of-death list? Between bee stings and lightning strikes? Even in it's record year, terrorism couldn't claim 1/10th the lives that auto accidents claim every year. Much less heart disease, which comes in over 100 times the worst ever terrorism year. So rather than talk about how many deaths sedentary lifestyles and french fries cause, he takes the fear-monger approach.

Perhaps we could go to the battlefield. Where his administration was the first to use tactical nuclear weapons (depleted uranium artillery and bullets), in Kosovo.

I completely agree that in almost all regards the current administration is worse than Clinton/Gore, and worst than Gore would have been. Bush's rampant use of torture, uranium weapons, and destruction of Iraq are all war crimes crying for prison sentences. Bush's appointees reek of fascism. Bush's denial of science is reprehensible.

But why don't we listen to someone who actually speaks from the high ground rather than the middle ground, why not listen to a Chomsky or a Sanders or a Kucinich?

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Absolutely right, but unrealistic
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Jan 17, 2006 9:37 AM   
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Bravo to Al Gore for finally voicing what so many of us have been waiting to hear. However, I only wish I could share his optimism about the American public rising up to heal the country's wounds. The American public is comprised of such a disproportionate percentage of idiots that most of it is probably more cognizant of who's likely to be the next American Idol than of anything contained in the American Constitution. Look who they put in the Oval Office, for godssake! Frankly, I can't think of a more fertile breeding ground for a full-blown police state (as opposed to the burgeoning one we have now) than right here in the good ol' US of A. Sorry, Mr. Gore, there's just too damn much wretched refuse in this country--some of which has been here since the Pilgrims started committing genocide on the indigenous population. We're doomed. Personally, I'm so sick and disgusted with what this country has become that I sometimes find myself wishing my grandparents had never emigrated.

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» but we actually elected Gore Posted by: Iconoclast421
Grave concern
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jan 17, 2006 9:43 AM   
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Of course the present overreaching of the president for power in defiance of our Constitiution must be stopped. This is an emergency. The Constitiution must be upheld at all costs. The first order of business should be impeachment of the president as well as those in legal succession who don't obey the law of the land.

Of equal concern to me is this paraphrase of Lincollon's famous words "government of the people, by the peopl;e, and for the people".

It means that the people of this nation ultimately determine its course.

Unfortunately we cannot determine its course because both parties are owned by the corporatocracy that finances their campaigns. Both parties represent the corporate establishment and not the people.

Our founding fathers fought our Revolution with the battlecry "Taxation without representation is tyranny!" That tyranny must be overthrown by today's patriots. The place to attack is the place where the people's political power is bought and sold. This is at the top level of leadership of both parties.

We must take control of both parties before the 2006 election. And it can be done by a grassroots movement to demand that both parties address the issues of the people or face the loss of our votes. Too long voters have played the game of voting for the lesser of the evils and held their noses and pulled the lever.

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A strong, third party is needed.....
Posted by: mendomama on Jan 17, 2006 11:12 AM   
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Gore's speech was, in my opinion, articulate, passionate, and very inspirational. He zeroed in on why each of us should be outraged by the actions of the current Administration, and why we should all do our part to stand up to the arrogant disregard for our Constitution that this Administration continues to display.

News outlets, such as CNN, Fox, and MSNBC, continue to spout how a majority of Americans are not outraged by the latest revelations of warrantless wiretapping of Americans. They point to polls, which they say indicate that this isn't a big issue for most Americans. When was the last time anyone here was polled by any of major polling organization? I, for one, have never been included in any national poll. I've never even KNOWN someone that was included in one of these polls. How could their findings truly represent people whose views have never been inquired about? They don't.

I know people from both ends of the political spectrum, and everywhere in beween, yet, I don't know ONE that isn't outraged by the NSA spy scandal, not to mention the various other scandals coming out of this Administration. Including people that voted for Bush in the last two elections.

However, I don't see Democrats being our saviours in all this. If that were the case, then we would've seen more from them the last five years. Maybe they aren't at the center of the latest scandals, but they did, in f