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Rights and Liberties

Mormon Homophobia: Up Close and Personal

By Sheldon Rampton, Center for Media and Democracy. Posted December 3, 2008.


An ex-Mormon explains how a church with mostly good values can promote hatred and intolerance.
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A photo from my own days as a Mormon missionary. I'm the blond guy in the middle.
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I recently wrote about the PR nightmare facing the Mormon Church as a result of the prominent role it played this year promoting Proposition 8 to ban same-sex marriage in California. At the urging of church leaders, Mormons spent about $20 million on the effort, which probably provided the margin that enabled the measure to pass.

There is some irony in the fact that Mormon pollster Gary Lawrence, who led the Proposition 8 grassroots campaign for the church in California, has a gay son, Matthew, who publicly resigned from the church to protest its anti-gay campaign. Matthew says that after his father's participation in "two anti-gay initiatives in eight years, it's impossible not to feel attacked."

Adding to the irony, Gary Lawrence has a new book out, titled How Americans View Mormonism: Seven Steps to Improve Our Image. His advice to Mormons who want to be better liked is, "Simply be yourself" -- advice that drew a sharp response from one blogger, who pointed out that being yourself "is a poor prescription for winning friends when 'who you are' is someone willing to lead a campaign to strip your own child of his civil rights."

The anti-Mormon backlash continues, and some people who have Mormon friends are rising to their defense, including Kaliya Hamlin (also known as "Identity Woman" for her work on issues related to online identity). In a recent blog post, Hamlin complains that "Web mobs" are engaged in "blacklisting and subsequent public harassment and targeting of specific people and specific religious groups for their beliefs and support of 'Yes on Prop. 8.' " She continues:

I take this personally, I have and do work with people who are Mormon -- when I played water polo in university and in the Identity field). I respect the LDS church and the people in it -- they have good values. ...

I think what is going on with the blacklists that are directly targeting people in their private life is wrong. I think targeting specific religious institutions for protest is wrong.

These people and these religious institutions are not propagating HATE, they are just not agreeing that marriage can be between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. This is a cultural difference of opinion.

With all due respect, I think Hamlin fails to understand the intensity, seriousness, and yes, hatred underlying Mormon opposition to gay rights. I actually have more personal experience with Mormons than she does. I was raised in a Mormon family and even served a two-year Mormon mission in Japan, from 1976 to 1978. Although I no longer believe in or practice its teachings, my extended family includes many active members. It's true that individual Mormons are mostly nice people -- as generous, thoughtful, intelligent and considerate as people from any other religion or belief system. Unfortunately, it is actually possible to possess all of those positive attributes and still promote hatred and intolerance.

From my missionary days, I still own a copy of The Miracle of Forgiveness, a book by Spencer W. Kimball, who was president (and "prophet") of the Mormon Church from 1973 until his death in 1985. The church still promotes Kimball's book and supports its beliefs regarding homosexuality, which he outlined in a chapter titled "Crime Against Nature." It states:


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Sheldon Rampton is the research director for the Center for Media & Democracy.

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Thank you, Alternet!
Posted by: HoboHomo on Dec 3, 2008 12:49 AM   
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I just want to stop for a moment in my busy queer life, to thank Alternet for including the gay issue with equal respect and consideration that you give to other civil rights issues. I haven't even read this particular article yet, to know that this is yet just the latest news piece on behalf of gay rights, which you so consciously and compassionately include in the mix of civil rights issue at large.

As a dedicated, free lance gay activist of many years, I can assuredly give you two thumbs up for your unabashed support and representation of the gay issue...upon which so many other so-called liberal news venues continue to drag their feet.

YOU ROCK, ALTERNET! Thank you from the bottom of my heart, for your MOST considerate inclusion of gay rights right along all other civil rights issues...since the inception of your news service, and all along the way.

Sinqueerly,

Zeke Krahlin (a.k.a. Jehovah's Queer Witness)
http://www.gay-bible.org

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A good man will do good, and an
Posted by: bitsfick on Dec 3, 2008 1:14 AM   
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an evil man will do evil, but for a good man to do evil it takes religion.

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Well worth reading
Posted by: Martin32 on Dec 3, 2008 2:34 AM   
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This was a really good, thoughtful piece.

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» I agree..... Posted by: Prophit
Sad that most LDS will never read this
Posted by: corgyn on Dec 3, 2008 2:37 AM   
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Great piece - good to point out the old Negro policy too.

Better LSD than LDS

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Intolerance is not in and of itself wrong. We all find various things intolerable.
Posted by: aouie01 on Dec 3, 2008 2:40 AM   
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Religious people who voted against same-sex marriage should admit that they do not believe same-sex marriage should be tolerated. In most cases it arises from their religious beliefs. A lot of things are considered abominations in the bible. Some of them like same-sex sexual acts are spoken ill of much more than others. Some such as wearing clothes meant for the opposite sex, are openly discriminated against much more than others.

Intolerance is not in and of itself a bad thing. Most people on Alternet probably do not tolerate religious intolerance of same-sex sexual acts. Some will refer to only those intolerances that they find unreasonable as (the objectionable) intolerances, while referring to their own (self-justifiable) intolerances as (personal) preferences or (righteous) outrages.

Tolerance can vary both in extent to which something is tolerated, and the extent to which tolerance extends. e.g. Intolerant1 may tolerate Num1 number of brief exposures to Intolerable1, but may not even be able to stand Num2 number of consecutive minutes of a single exposure to Intolerable1. Intolerant1's tolerance to Intolerable2 may extend only to the extent of not actively putting a stop to it, but may not extend to having courteous conversations with the source of Intolerable2.

As a society we should consider promoting a reasonable amount of tolerance to keep us from unreasonably causing significant harm to others. We need to watch out to not pressure people to choose between total acceptance or total intolerance.

Sincerely,
Aouie

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» You're totally wrong Posted by: floridahank
» Emmet Fox said many wrong things Posted by: floridahank
» Your rights end at my nose. Posted by: Prophit
» RE: Your rights end at my nose. Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» Religions can espouse... Posted by: buffeliscious
» When Intolerance Becomes Law! Posted by: leighsure
I am confused.
Posted by: Plexius2 on Dec 3, 2008 4:01 AM   
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The author seems to imply that what will change Mormon doctrine is convincing individual mormons that same sex marriage is not an abomination to be fought. Yet, he clearly states that the Negro doctrine did not change until Kimball announced a "revelation." To wit:

"It took years for attitudes to change on the Negro doctrine, but in 1978 the Mormon Church officially announced a revelation -- from none other than Spencer W. Kimball -- which gave black Mormons the same priesthood rights as everyone else.

It is my understanding that Mormonism is profoundly dependant on "revelations" by elders to function. That revelation by an elder effectively is a new law or pronouncement from God himself. If that is so, how can trying to persuade individual mormons ever work? They can only be persuaded by a "revelation." If Kimball indeed was unconsciously persuaded by the social environment, then God had nothing to do with it and revelations are phony.

Maybe what is needed is a little LSD in an elder's cup or perhaps a homosexual elder will be born and have his OWN revelation. Personally, I think Mormons along with most devout religionists are mostly just highly repressed individuals who are both heavily brainwashed and tend to operate further along on the mental illness scale than your average, lackluster, schizotypal religionist.

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» Also Posted by: zipoka
Tolerance between Mormons & other Christian sects...
Posted by: TagsNOLA on Dec 3, 2008 5:25 AM   
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... and gays is not going to happen. At least not with respect to those sects whose religious teachings prohibit homosexuality and condemn it as "abomination." (Lev 18:22) The intolerance is mutual. Recently a group of young Christians who had gathered in San Francisco's Castro district, right after passage of Prop., 8 was mobbed and violently assaulted by angry homosexuals. The Christians had not been leafleting any kinds of tracts or interacting in any way with anyone. They had been gathered in a small circle and were singing contemporary Christian songs. The rage of the attacking gays was documented on video. I have seen the video myself. One Christian girl's Bible was taken from her by one of the gay assailants who then hit her in the head with it and threw it to the pavement. The young girl later declined to press charges for assault. The Mormon's exclusion of blacks from their priesthood, although based on their then current teaching, had no *rational* basis in Bible doctrine. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is clearly, firmly and unequivocally condemned in both old and new testaments. Christians who accept Bible doctrine on homosexuality will *never* accept same sex marriage. Homosexuals who demand acceptance of same sex marriage from Bible believing Christians WILL NEVER GET IT.

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» hehe... christian girl Posted by: abbadon2007
» okay, then... Posted by: redfrog
» Hear hear!! Posted by: buffeliscious
» Yawn yawn... Posted by: buffeliscious
» 1COR 18:22 Posted by: zipoka
» RE: 1COR 18:22 Posted by: TagsNOLA
» RE: 1 COR 6:9 Posted by: Bliss Doubt
individual Mormons changing is what changes the church
Posted by: january37 on Dec 3, 2008 5:32 AM   
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My sister follows Mormon doctrine to the extent that she bore 7 healthy children and is now, at age 74, grandmother to more than 20. She is the matriarch of this very large family. She is "Mrs. Mormon."

BUT she did not vote for the "Gay Marriage Ban" when it came up in Utah elections. As she expressed it, The problem in Utah is not gay marriage -- it's polygamy.

Also, one of her daughters is good friends to a lesbian couple who are raising a family. My sister says, they are doing well; I wouldn't want to break that up.

Words cannot express how I honor my sister for being able to see through church teachings on this issue. People like her, who do not hate, who think for themselves, will change the Mormon Church.

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some, i've known.
Posted by: nadine sellers on Dec 3, 2008 5:38 AM   
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As a caregiver, i had the pleasure of spending nearly ten years among mormons, befriended several and cherished the friendship of some.
Yes i did appreciate the values, if not the neuroses.
As an artiste, i had the pleasure of spending nearly ten years among gays and befriended several and cherished the friendship of some, yes i did appreciate the values, if not the neuroses.

I believe the role of people is to offer a bridge, an escape from strictures that choke.
My social role was to accept personal identity and except social intolerance.

Why limit a natural progress of evolution? The Earth is already overcrowded, animals recede in reproduction when conditions so dictate. So unproductive human unions are to be welcome.

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» RE: some, i've known. Posted by: Lilykins
Religion IS the problem!
Posted by: ginny on Dec 3, 2008 5:56 AM   
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Not just Mormonism, but ALL religions indoctrinate people from birth with "beliefs" that harm others! The nature of "belief" is to accept without, or IN SPITE OF, evidence or reason! Religions do not want you to "think for yourself." This completely undermines "BELIEF."
It's not just so-called fundamentalists or extremists either! Even so-called moderates in religion help enable and promote intolerance. As the author of this article says, just because someone is a "nice, good" person outwardly in most respects, does not mean they are not capable of promoting hate and evil!
STOP ENABLING HATE! JUST SAY NO TO RELIGION!

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» Religion IS the problem! Posted by: zipoka
» I have to disagree... Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: I have to disagree... Posted by: zipoka
In contrast...
Posted by: rickiey on Dec 3, 2008 6:05 AM   
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I do disagree with the author of this. And my qualifications are just as good, as I am a former holder of the priesthood in the Mormon Church, and was born into it as well. I was also born liking men sexually, which is part of the reason that I am no longer Mormon.

The Mormon Church, is not a homophobic church. Homophobia implys hatred, which they do not have.

They do, however, consider homosexual acts themselves to be sins against God. They do consider it a deviance that should be corrected.

They are, of course, wrong. But that isn't the point.

The Mormons believe not in condemning those who are sinners, but in CONVERTING them. They view homosexuals not as an evil to be stamped out, but as sinners to be redeemed.

Of course, they feel the same way about Catholics.

No, that isn't exactly a tolerant attitude, but it is the best you are likely to get from ANY christian church.

Quite frankly their support of Prop 8 did not surprise me, as they were merely following their religion. They have very strict tenants on marriage (possibly the strictest), and consider it very sacred. To oppose gay marriage from their viewpoint is common sense.

What dissappointed me, is that they were successful. The number of NON mormons that voted Prop 8, is an embarrassment to me as US citizen.

And also a re-affirmation of the importance of keeping religion out of politics.

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RE: One Big CULT
Posted by: DaBear on Dec 3, 2008 10:16 AM   
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For that matter, so is any Xtian sect who uses the xtian bible. That "book" is a cultural theft of my people's sacred texts, re-rendered out of cultural context with an entire "new testament" fabricated and cherry picked into "The Bible"....

talk about writing their own book.... but they were too cheap to actually write the biggest part, they just shoplifted that from us (and rewrote that one for good measure, just in case).

Anyone who thinks the xtian Bible or any sacred text is "written by the hand of god" or "god-breathed" is a cultist by definition. Most religious texts, even my own people's, are just humans making shit up that seems to make sense of what we don't get, or codes to try to not be so brutal to each other within our own group. It's all groping in the dark and working ourselves up... then along comes the A types and their urge to control others, dogma follows, etc. before too long, you got a full blown craptasm going.

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DaBear gets it right, but incomplete
Posted by: leighsure on Dec 3, 2008 8:34 PM   
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It's not just "xianity" that perverts people's spirituality. Any religion that says that my way is the only way is anti-human. There are as many ways to view life/death and whatever else as there are people.

BTW, DaBear:
Yes the "xians" did tack on the "New" Testament to the Pentateuch, but the Semites stole a bunch of stuff from the Zoroastrians and other "cults" of the era and area. So, let he who is without sin...get stoned.

BTW, troglodyte Jess:
The Latter Day Aints are pushing the "BRAND 'New'" Testament. You know it's improved because its got an angel named Moroni. It s the BRAND that matters, right?

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RE: One Big CULT
Posted by: rickiey on Dec 4, 2008 9:43 AM   
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The Moron Cult is a joke. they write their own book and "think" its part of the Bible. What a joke

Isn't that what Jews say about Christians?

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Just another whacked-out religious cult
Posted by: newsound on Dec 3, 2008 6:38 AM   
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Kaliya Hamlin epitomizes the hypocrisy of the Mormons when she says, ". . . directly targeting people in their private life is wrong."
Isn't that exactly what they did with Prop. 8?
The Mormons are just another wacked-out religious cult with beliefs that are just plain laughable. And yet, like most organized religion, they are taken seriously when they discriminate against those who are not like them.

Gay Americans are the latest group that people feel safe in dehumanizing. The arguments against them are the exact same ones heard about other groups throughout history. Could it be that Mormons (and most others) are so insecure with their own lives that they feel the need to make others appear to have lesser values? Since when is wanting valuation in your relationship and family a bad thing?

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POLYGAMY IN UTAH
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Dec 3, 2008 6:41 AM   
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HARK YE HARK YE

Mormons CRUCIFY gays and ignore tens of thousands of polygamists in Utah who practice tyranny over women and children.

Watch the video:

http://www.bankingonheaven.com

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Barbaric electric shocks...
Posted by: Sherry M. on Dec 3, 2008 6:42 AM   
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that so-called "treatment" would have been more likely to condition gay men to want S&M, not heterosex. And then they would be even more vulnerable to hatred. Thank you for a very revealing article. All religions need to clean up their acts before they can honestly be instruments of peace (rather than war and shaming and hatred -- everything their "god" is presumably against).

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Remember the "Good Germans"?
Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 3, 2008 7:10 AM   
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All those Germans after the war who said that they "disapproved" of what Hitler and the Nazis did.

Too many of the comments on this page are strongly reminiscent of that. "I'm a Mormon but I deeply disapprove of the anti-gay agenda". "I've known some Mormons and they were good people.." etc. etc.

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Remember the "Good Germans"?
Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 3, 2008 7:10 AM   
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All those Germans after the war who said that they "disapproved" of what Hitler and the Nazis did.

Too many of the comments on this page are strongly reminiscent of that. "I'm a Mormon but I deeply disapprove of the anti-gay agenda". "I've known some Mormons and they were good people.." etc. etc.

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Sky Led Thinkers
Posted by: melpol on Dec 3, 2008 7:34 AM   
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Most thinkers who are inspired by voices in the sky help foster hatered and intolerance. Instead of letting people make their own choices they block their paths. Sky Led Thinkers must quietly surrender to doctors and be helped by anti-psychotic medication. If they take their medication religiously more love and tolerance will come down to Earth.

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gentlewoman
Posted by: lokicat on Dec 3, 2008 7:34 AM   
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I am a straight woman (married to the same man for 43 years). We are both ministers and have legally married gays and lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people in our respective churches. I recently married two gay men in my church with 225 gay and straight people in enthusiastic attendance which was not only the high point of my ministry but a high point of my life.
The other side of this is I have seen people deal with and move beyond their homophobia. It frees people up. They are able to let go of something hard and uptight and repressed that was put into them when they were too young to even think it through, let alone reject it. The wonderful thing is that anyone who rids themselves of these toxic beliefs sees life, including their own, with new eyes.
Here in Massachusetts, where thankfully we have equal marriage, this is rapidly becoming a non issue. Those who railed against gays and used their hate speech to cling to their ideology are just not heeded anymore. They are, in effect, dinosaurs since they will die off, and already the younger generation sees this as a non-issue. Younger people are far more accepting and open and want to concentrate on real issues, like education and healthcare, not on something as ignorant as blocking gay marriage.
Christian Humanist, Unitarian Universalist minister, Gretchen Robinson

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