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Election 2008

Maliki Endorses Obama's Iraq Timeline in Huge Blow for McCain, Bush

By Tom Hayden, Huffington Post. Posted July 19, 2008.


In a stunning breakthrough for Obama, Iraq's prime minister endorsed the Dem candidate's timeline for withdrawing combat troops from Iraq.
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In a stunning diplomatic breakthrough for Barack Obama, Iraq's prime minister yesterday endorsed the Democratic candidate's 16-month timeline for withdrawing combat troops from Iraq.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki endorsed the Obama approach in a July 18 interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel, just as President Bush and Sen. John McCain were touting a vague new commitment to a "horizon" for withdrawal. The New York Times did not report the Maliki statement in its July 19 edition.

Uncertainty about Maliki's surprise statement persists since his top political spokesman told the Times only one week ago that troop withdrawals would take three to five years, if not longer. [NYT, July 11]. The number of American troops he would request as counter-terrrorism units, trainers and advisers could be tens of thousands.

But as Obama's plane touched down in Afghanistan, Maliki's comments were having a far-reaching effect on the war and presidential politics, with the Maliki government withdrawing from George Bush and making McCain appear foolish.

This could be the "Philippine option" predicted in Ending the War in Iraq, in which the US arranged behind the scenes for the Manila government to request the departure of the American fleet.
While the sequencing may be accidental, it appears that the Obama forces could reap a windfall. Obama will seem more successful than Bush in managing the last stages of the war, depriving McCain of the claim to superior foreign policy experience. Obama's imminent arrival in Baghdad could seem like a victory lap in the foreign policy "primary."

Why would Maliki break so sharply with his long-time US partner in the White House? Are the Iraqis more adept at playing American politics than the White House is?

As noted before at this site, Iraqi public opinion -- Shi'a and Sunni -- strongly favors a deadline for American troop withdrawal. The provincial elections to be held later this year [at the insistence of the US] will produce victories for candidates who demand ending the occupation, both in Sunni areas like Anbar and Mahdi Army areas like Sadr City. Maliki's coalition must appear to stand for Iraqi sovereignty and the departure of US forces.

Somewhere in the background is Iran with its strong ties to the entire Shi'a community in Iraq. The Iranian interest is in keeping Shi'a factions unified in a demand that the US troops and bases are folding up and returning home. Iran believes that a retreating US will be less able to strike from positions of strength on the ground if a US-Iran conflict takes place.

Besides Iran and the Shi'a bloc, the big winners in this scenario would be the multinational oil companies now subtly assuring themselves access to Iraq's oilfields after thirty years of absence.
The Bush Administration could mask defeat in claims of "mission accomplished", perhaps with garlands of flowers provided by Maliki at a joint ceremony.

Though genuine peace would a blessing, the real losers stand to be the Sunni minority which is the backbone of the insurgency, and the long-suffering Shi'a poor in Sadr City whose social-economic needs are little recognized by the dominant Shi'a party. In the region's geopolitics, Saudi Arabia would be angered at the rise of greater Shi'a and Iranian power in potentially competitive oil fields. And despite their alarm about Iran's nuclear plans, Israel would welcome an Iraq shorn of its power in the Sunni world.

As for al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, they could claim a victory in helping drive the American forces out of Iraq, but their narrow public support would shrink further if Iraqis recover sovereignty. A loophole in the Obama plan, certainly endorsed by Maliki, would allow American counter-terrorism units to go after alleged al-Qaeda units operating in Iraq as US combat forces draw down.

The huge "if" hovering over this sudden development is simply whether the Bush Administration can force Maliki to back down from his statement, or at least retreat from going further.

Here is Maliki's statement, delivered as Obama's visit to the region was beginning:

Whoever is thinking about the shorter term [for withdrawal] is closer to reality. Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems ... As soon as possible, as far as we're concerned… Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic ... Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.

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Tom Hayden is the author of Ending the War in Iraq [2007].

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Great Start
Posted by: worldbfree4me on Jul 19, 2008 8:15 PM   
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Great start for Obamas important trip, showing the difference in he and McCain and having Maliki agree with him.

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» NOT SO FAST ALTERNET PEOPLE Posted by: democracynowiniraq
» STOP DREAMING, TOM Posted by: GREYHORSE
Northeast Ohio's conservative paper only printed the Bush horizon plan, saying
Posted by: PaulC on Jul 19, 2008 9:32 PM   
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that Maliki was onboard with it. This is what conservative papers across the country are doing - saying that Bush has jumped out in front on this issue, and emphasizing that Bush is doing it the "right way", without "publicly" setting a firm withdrawal date.

So the new spin is that Bush intended to set a firm withdrawal date all along, only not revealing what that date would be to the public, hence to the "terrorists" as well. Further, that "firm" data would be done "correctly", with input from "the generals on the ground". So, not only is this "firm" date secret, but it is a "fluid" "firm" date that is set the "right way". Hence, it is an unknowable firm but fluid date.

In this manner Bush has it both ways - he never sets a deadline but he claims he probably set one anyway, but no one can know for sure or the terrorists win. So no matter what Bush does, Bush is right and Obama is wrong.

And I am guessing that the American people will eat this s**t up. As we all know, the American people are smart enough to arrive at the truth, or so we are repeatedly told.

peace,
Paul

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» Correct, to a point... Posted by: Knowmad
» RE: Correct, to a point... Posted by: chorton
» RE: Correct, to a point... Posted by: Knowmad
» RE: What to do, Canada. Posted by: chorton
Ain't over till its over.
Posted by: chorton on Jul 20, 2008 6:27 AM   
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As always Hayden's analysis is well worth reading. (He has been one of my heroes now for 46 years!) However, Hayden's list of who wins and who loses is a hypothetical argument - suppose the Maliki/Obama plan goes through and that result gets fixed in time? - but the struggle goes on and the situation in Iraq is obviously highly fluid.

By all accounts the Iraqi people (and importantly the oil workers) are by no means reconciled to the US oil companies' oil grab or to US anti-terrorism units remaining. The Shiite slums are highly organized under Sadr's leadership, which is committed to Shiite-Sunni unity around getting US out and to a strong central government. The armed resistance will undoubtedly continue as long as there are US troops there still trying to defeat it. By all accounts there is a huge reservoir of anger among the people at the US occupation, anchored to the story of their 90-year-old struggle against foreign domination and plunder, which won't easily be bought off with partial measures.

On the other side, we can be sure that Bush & Co. and the oil barons are not going to settle for walking away from their strategic position - the huge profits the Iraqi oil fields could bring, the geo-political power that comes from controlling what's left of the world's oil reserves, and the military position vis-a-vis Iran - if they see any other good move they can make.

So, this is a win, but the struggle is far from over. This is not a moment for us to let our guard down. Clearly though we have a huge opportunity to exploit here. The US ruling class is split on what to do about Iraq and Iran, and one segment is turning to the people for support. This is a moment when real gains can be won.

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» RE: Ain't over till its over. Posted by: Captainmagic
Leave, but please don't go!
Posted by: carbon-based on Jul 20, 2008 9:48 AM   
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Yes, wouldn't it be nice to see America get theirs (as thought by the left of course). But that isn't likely going to happen. no one in Iraq is kicking us out unless they are sure no one will come in and kick THEM out! And of course THAT little point is what will define success for America - a stable Iraq.

Obama will never jeopardize Americas efforts or military on such a irresponsible move. Cloaked in his beautiful speeches are those exact sentiments - he has become basically John McCain but a little more to the left!

America is tired of an eight year war for sure but they'll be more upset seeing Iraq fall into Iran's hands, Afghanistan fall back to Al Qaeda and America under siege again.

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» RE: Just FOX party line stuff again Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: Just FOX party line stuff again Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: carbon... Posted by: Quannah
Iraq's Strengthening Central Government Threatens USA/Israel "Strategic Interests"
Posted by: sofla100 on Jul 20, 2008 10:21 AM   
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It's going to be a tough road doing a repair job on the mistakes of GW Bush, but Obama is certainly the one for it, and not McCain. The reality is that Iraq is coalescing into a stronger central government right now but one that is potentially threatening to perceived "USA interests." Those interests being Western companies exploting Iraq's oil reserves (preferably at a discount), and the ready availability of USA bases and forces being permanently stationed in Iraq. Due to religious and cultural similiarities, Iraq and Iran are drawing closer together, much to the dismay of Washington and Tel Aviv. The so-called "war on terrror," which was never what the war in Iraq was about, has finally been seen to be what the war in Afghanistan should be all about. Bottom line, you can bet the USA will fight hard to stop an OPEC that is to include Iraq and one where the price of oil is no longer to be determined in USA dollars but in other currencies, which is what Iran wants. You can bet also that the USA will fight hard to stop Iran from encouraging Iraq to develop a central government that won't kow-tow to Washington and sell her and the West oil on the cheap. And, you can bet the USA, with her allies in Israel, will continue to fight Iran's desperate need for a nuclear deterrent, to counter Israel's nuclear weapon monopoly and state-sponsored terrorism in the region. These then, are the USA's strategic interests, as defined by the Bush Administration, and which Obama must deal with, should he become President.

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NOT SO FAST
Posted by: democracynowiniraq on Jul 20, 2008 6:18 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/ meast/07/19/almaliki.obama/index.html?iref=24hours

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» RE: NOT SO FAST Posted by: mainspark
Not So Fast
Posted by: mutualaid on Jul 21, 2008 4:56 AM   
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Obama's plan is (as carbon-based notes) based on 'stability' of Iraq. It is not based on democracy despite the fact that most of his supporters believe that he would get the u.s. out of Iraq.

But a few things need adding to carbon-based's account above and one thing is wrong:

His 'withdrawal' would take 16 months. And would likely see a redeployment to Afghanistan b/c those people need some TLC dropped on them from 30,000ft.

He's as much at the service of oil and empire as bush/mccain.

The only thing that carbon-based got wrong is that Iraq is already aligned with Iran; its president is an ally of Iran wherease the Sadr Shiites who were attacked by Iran- and U.S.-backed central govt. are staunch nationalists.

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Iraqi Prime Minister has not endorsed Obama's plan
Posted by: bbfmail on Jul 21, 2008 6:06 AM   
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The Iraqi Prime Minister has not endorsed US presidential candidate Barack Obama's plan for troop withdrawal, an Iraqi spokesman says.

On Sa (more)

The Iraqi Prime Minister has not endorsed US presidential candidate Barack Obama's plan for troop withdrawal, an Iraqi spokesman says.

On Saturday, German magazine Der Spiegel reported that in an interview with Nuri al-Maliki, the Iraqi premier had supported Obama's plan for getting US troops out of Iraq within 16 months.

According to Der Spiegel, Maliki said in the interview that it 'would be the right timescale for withdrawal, allowing for minor adjustments and US troops should leave Iraq as soon as possible'.

Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh, however, said in a statement released on Sunday, that the magazine had 'misunderstood and mistranslated' the prime minister.

Al-Dabbagh also said Maliki's comments 'should not be understood as support to any US presidential candidates'.

However, in an article on its website, the German magazine said that it was standing by the accuracy of its interview.

AGB/MMN
Source: AJP

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Geez
Posted by: willymack on Jul 21, 2008 9:05 AM   
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He ain't even president yet but Obama has already diplomatically one-upped the bushies and their stooge, mcloser. Imagine what he could do once he's in the White House. Turdblossom had better get the lie mill into high gear, the hackers had better brush up on their phony vote count skills, and the "Caging" lists had better be expanded if the 2008 election is to be sucessfully falsified. It appears it won't be so easy this time around, and the vote for Obama may be so lopsided in his favor that NO fix will work. It's be nice to see an honest election outcome for a change.

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Oh, and since we're on the subject...
Posted by: Quannah on Jul 21, 2008 2:50 PM   
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what the fuck is a "Time Horizon" anyway???

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Time table realities
Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Jul 21, 2008 4:08 PM   
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Tom Hayden is right about a withdrawal time table of 16 months as AN ABVIOUS WINNER.

Iraqi oil really is a national treasure of that nation. I believe that once American troops are removed that their oil fields will be nationalized again.

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