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The Hidden Battle to Control the World's Food Supply

By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!. Posted April 19, 2008.


Food riots are breaking out across the planet. We must re-examine corporate control of the food supply.

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The rise in global food prices has sparked a number of protests in recent weeks, highlighting the worsening epidemic of global hunger. The World Bank estimates world food prices have risen 80 percent over the last three years and that at least thirty-three countries face social unrest as a result. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has warned the growing global food crisis has reached emergency proportions.

In recent weeks, food riots have also erupted in Haiti, Niger, Senegal, Cameroon and Burkina Faso. Protests have also flared in Morocco, Mauritania, Ivory Coast, Egypt, Mexico and Yemen. In most of West Africa, the price of food has risen by 50 percent -- in Sierra Leone, 300 percent. The World Food Program has issued a rare $500 million emergency appeal to deal with the growing crisis.

Several causes factor into the global food price hike, many linked to human activity. These include human-driven climate change, the soaring cost of oil and a Western-led focus on biofuels that critics say turns food into fuel.

Raj Patel is a writer, activist and former policy analyst with Food First, which is based in the Bay Area. He has worked for the World Bank, World Trade Organization, the United Nations, and he's also protested them on four continents. He has just come out with a new book called Stuffed and Starved: The Hidden Battle for the World Food System. He recently joined me in San Francisco to talk about the book and the food-price crisis.

Raj Patel: There are two kinds of stories that we can tell about the food prices. One is an economic story, and that's a story about a perfect storm of poor harvests and a demand for meat in developing countries, which is diverting grain, and the high price of oil, which is driving up food -- farm inputs, and at the same time, the biofuels boom, the process of growing fuels in order -- sorry, growing food in order to burn it rather than eat it. All of these are economic factors that are driving up the price of food.

But at the same time, there's a political story here, and it's a longer-term political story about how countries have been forced to abandon their support for farmers and to abandon things like grain supplies and grain stores. And this is a longer-term story, and it involves organizations like the World Bank and the World Trade Organization that have a fairly iron control over the economies of most of the poorest countries in the world. And what the World Bank and what the WTO and, to some extent, the International Monetary Fund have done is force these countries to tie their hands behind their back, effectively, and to bind them very firmly to an international economy in food. And the consequence of that is that when the price of food goes up, these economies have very little recourse and very little possibility of defending themselves economically.

Amy Goodman: Raj, you worked at these institutions that you're now critiquing. You worked at the World Bank. You worked at the World Trade Organization. How much contact do you have with people at the other end -- for example, the people who are now rising up all over the world, the most destitute?

Well, I mean, I certainly don't have any contact with anyone at the World Bank or the World Trade Organization. I was there when I was doing my doctoral work. I did some research for the World Bank. It was a disaster. And I interned at the World Trade Organization just to find out what it was like.

But my allegiances are and always have been with the people on the streets. And I'm working right now with shack dwellers in Durban in South Africa. But also I'm connected to groups of peasants and of landless people around the world by occasionally doing some research for Via Campesina, the international peasant movement, that by some estimates has over 100 million members. So I'm definitely more connected and more supportive of their efforts to develop a more positive and more genuine food democracy.

In your work there, even as a researcher, what was -- how much understanding did people who work there have of what was going on and what their institutions were doing?

I mean, to some extent, there's a lot of creative denial about the suffering that these organizations cause. I mean, certainly within the World Bank, when I worked there, there was a banner, sort of five stories high, as you enter into the World Bank building, with a beautiful African child on it and beneath it the slogan, "Our dream is a world free of poverty." And certainly, there's a sort of myth-making enterprise within the World Bank that everything they were doing was for the benefit of the poor, whether the poor liked it or not. So I certainly think that there's a sense that when things are tough, it's tough love that comes from the World Bank.


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Best article yet on the food price spike. . .
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 19, 2008 12:41 AM   
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Readers might want to compare Democracy Now to the New York Times' Paul Krugman: Grains Gone Wild (that's a play on Girls Gone Wild - very funny).

Krugman: "But it’s not clear how much can be done. Cheap food, like cheap oil, may be a thing of the past."

The New York Times has a nice companion piece on drought in Australia where they claim the following:
"Moderate warming could benefit crop and pasture yields in countries far from the Equator, like Canada and Russia. In fact, the net effect of moderate warming is likely to be higher total global food production in the next several decades."

Yes, Global Warming will Green the Earth, according to the NYT - as long as it is "moderate". Wonder what they mean by "moderate"?

Better than FOX News? Maybe - but for the honest view, you have to look to Democracy Now or some foreign press outlet like The Guardian:

"Scratch beneath the surface of major social or political upheaval - the French or Russian revolutions, Germany's military collapse in 1918 or more recently China's Tiananmen Square - and you will find that food shortages, brought about by crop failure, naval blockade or spiralling prices, lie at the heart of the matter.

. . .In less developed countries, the situation is more serious: dearer food has sparked riots in former French west Africa, Yemen and Zimbabwe. In Burkina Faso, one of Africa's poorest countries, troops were called out to quell widespread public disorder. Disturbances have also been reported in Mauritania and Senegal.

Richard Warburton, head of agribusiness at Bidwells, a specialist research consultancy, says: 'We are experiencing a surging market across a range of commodities. During the first half of this decade, the Goldman Sachs commodity index soared by 77 per cent, compared with a fall of 19 per cent in the FTSE 100 index of leading shares.

'But the interesting bit is that in 2007, soft [agricultural] commodities moved into prime position ahead of their hard counterparts [oil, gold and metals].'

. . .Global food security is fast becoming one of the most important issues of the 21st century and, while there is disagreement about how to tackle the problem, few believe that it will diminish in importance in the foreseeable future.


Not a viewpoint that economist Krugman seems interested in addressing... odd, that, isn't it? Princeton economist can't do market analysis? Why not?

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Why Won't the Left Say It ? : Scrap The WTO ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Apr 19, 2008 1:13 AM   
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Scrapping the WTO isn't radical. Allowing the WTO was radical in the first place.

The WTO is the corporations Bill of Wrongs. They get super sovereignty even over the basics to human survival including land, water, fishing rights and the right to pollute! The restrictions are legendary. In Bolivia it was against the law to collect rain water. In Costa Rica it is now against the law to share water with a neighbor.

But it goes father as corporations pump ground water dry for their factories in India while leaving tons of lead that leach into the ground water in Tiquana.

Farmers in India are committing suicide over debts because of fertilizer, pesticide and seed costs that is a monopoly of multi national corporations such as Mosanto.

The WTO and their Court, the World Bank, The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the International Bank of Settlements are the backbone of the neoliberalism that is using debt, the shock doctrine and disaster capitalism to subvert the world's resources to their control.

The sovereignty of countries, including that of the United States is now subservient to the World Trade Organization. They render our court's judgments moot with their own decrees, enforce collection through the International Bank of Settlements, and all this without any representation for the citizenry of the effected country.

We need to scrap the WTO before this corporate Frankenstein is in control of the laws and regulations of every aspect of our daily lives.

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» RE: REVOLUTION NOW! MY FELLOW SLAVES Posted by: sasquuatch55
Fake Foods + Evil Gouls = A Starving World!
Posted by: williameon on Apr 19, 2008 3:17 AM   
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Or
What ever happened?
When Mon-Saint-Co
Pulled the Plug?

Mr. Terminator Gene’s
Till-less agriculture
Now
Reins Supreme.

A Modern Marvel
Of
Waste, Depravity and Destruction.

Barren Fields,
Depleted Soils,
Disrupted Food Supplies,
World wide Hunger!

I’m Sorry!
Greedy Corporations are
Never held Responsible
or
Accountable to Fact.

Watch the Magic Marble!
Under the Shell Company,
Schlock Market or
Three card Monty anyone?

It’s a Miracle
Something from nothing
They “The Corpirates” do it again.
Destroyed everything they've touched and
Still come up smelling like a Rose
Covered in Patchouli Oil.

Mon-Saint-Co
Is a Plague upon
Mankind.

Patent the discovery!
Con-troll the Population
Starve them to Death!

Billions must pay.
With their lives.
Pigs do Fly!

Greed has done it again.
Sucked the Life out of everything,
They've touched.
Preaching
Salvation and Compassion.

The trouble is?
Slaves get angry
With a empty stomach and
Rhetoric gets harder to swallow.

The World is in turmoil and
Everything looks Rosy
Looking through their
Rose Color Spy Glasses.

Never question the
Holy Corporate Empire
As they Prey on the Poor.
Smothered in
Ratsburger Dressing!

Ride around in
The Duped Mobile
Just like the
Holy Fuhrer

Silence The Lambs!
Excommunicate the Innocent.

The Wolves are circling
Bless me now Father?
Spank You!

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The president will save us all
Posted by: richholland on Apr 19, 2008 3:31 AM   
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this morning my wife phoned from the small village in the mountains of northern thailand.
the price of a bag of rice went up from 800 baht to 1500 baht.

She remembered hunger from 30 years ago in Birma.
Strange enough she thinks it has to do with the electricity, the mobil telefoon and cars.

But there is still hope, Hilary the billionaire will not change the destructive system, McCain is to old to change anything.
Maybe OBAMA knows the hunger and despair of the ordinairy men and women.

Gott bless America

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sure glad I sold my crap biodiesel stock
Posted by: pandahead on Apr 19, 2008 4:31 AM   
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Biodiesel is not sounding like such a great idea anymore. I bought some stock in Earth Biofuels a couple of years ago (Willie Nelson & Morgan Freeman are on the Board) and it completely tanked, besides. Not doing that again. I'll be a bit more cautious with my idealism.

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Speculation
Posted by: Falang on Apr 19, 2008 6:14 AM   
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This week Bernard Kouchner France Foreign Minister made a declation to the press saying that the latest rising price of basic food was the result of the uncontrol speculator and he said that we should prohibit all speculation on basic food.

We also should get rid of WTO and the World Bank but the World Bank is already going down because they shoot themself in the foot with their so bad policy.

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» RE: Speculation Posted by: richholland
Fundamental economics: high food prices are generally good for developing countries.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 19, 2008 8:18 AM   
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When, as in third-world counties, your chief product is food, the higher the value, the better you're going to do. Sure, some places like South Africa, which went from a wealthy net exporter country to a starvation state after apartheid ended, face some unique challenges in figuring out how to feed themselves. Needless to say, South Africa's still doesn't have a food problem, per se, they've simply been too occupied finding new ways to make a state fail to feed themselves.

What doesn't help are agribusiness subsidies. Local farmers in the third world can compete against U.S., European, and advanced Asian growers. What they can't compete against is the collective wealth of industrial nations being used to augment the agricultural sectors in those countries.

Throw in the state-sponsored moonshiners--those who receive subsidies to produce ethanol, and you can get some temporary (high) price disruptions in countries that are used to having cheap grains dumped on them rather than growing their own. This should--in effect--create opportunities for local farmers.

Bottom line: we tend to undervalue food, and as the price rises, folks in agrarian countries should benefit.

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They lost me with the obesity analysis
Posted by: Gravitas on Apr 19, 2008 9:07 AM   
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While I am glad that they mentioned the world bank as one of the true culprits of the crisis, his discussion of obesity was inappropriate. In the first place, all obesity is NOT caused by processed food. Using his (Pharma's) definition of a billion people "overweight," you will find MANY people in that weight range long before the Industrial Revolution. We prefer to ignore that in our simplistic explanations of weight, but it is a fact that they existed. For some people, fatness is natural and healthy! Period!!! Furthermore, if obesity is not his specialty he stick to what he knows and not parrot pop science.

If they did want to connect obesity with world hunger, it should be the scapegoating aspect. During every famine, MSM reminds us how fat we are while children starve. So that the waitress who has a pack of chips on her way to her second job feels more guilty than those at the World Bank who created the crisis in the first place. Obesity is a major scapegoat that keeps us from looking at the real causes; and therefore, implementing a real solution!

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For the eventual outcome of the current food crisis...
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 19, 2008 9:54 AM   
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see the 1973 sci-fi movie, "Soylent Green."

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Obesity: "Nature's way for preparing for starvation."
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 19, 2008 10:45 AM   
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True or not about excess body fat, I read a statement like that by a prominent sociologist.

Makes sense to me.

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rn
Posted by: mnatra on Apr 19, 2008 11:17 AM   
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Great interview and great comments.
What are you all doing to help the problem in addition to bringing it to our attention.?
Have you all cut your driving stopped eating processed foods etc.Or is this all more of do as i say not as i do that is so prevalent on the left. the right too.
The hour glass analogy is the best one to describe the corporate control of everything.Certainly oil companies,s control of energy is more of a poster child for global greed.
Why should corporations control our food ad well.
I shop at my local farmers market , drive as little as possible in my Civic and combine trips, I eat fresh food about 90% of the time,
and I still feel that I consume way too much for a sustainable planet.!
Good work Democracy Now

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» RE: rn Posted by: fringedweller
Otto
Posted by: otto on Apr 19, 2008 11:25 AM   
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Everyone should also watch "The World According To Monsanto", a video 1 an 1/2 hours long, showing how Monsanto has tried to control world food supplies here and in all countries...ignoring health warnings with their GM seeds, etc. They made AGent Orange, remember? And Round-up, which they put in heir grain...people are getting sick and dying in all parts of the world because of Monsamto. They're putting poor farmers out of business everywhere, who can't afford to keep buying their GM seeds that they patented and send their police to see that no one uses without paying each year. The work was done by a French woman and was in International Clearing House as an article (video) on April 14th. It's well researched, showing how U.S. officials were bribed, and how their products are banned in Europe. (but in the U.S. we go on happily, because they've bribed our protectors.) And they're poisoning the environment everywhere with their pesticides, as well as people. No victims of Agent Orange have been able to win lawsuits against them, including Vietnam vets.

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» RE: Otto Posted by: TERRIROBSON
» RE: Otto-link to the movie Posted by: racetoinfinity
» RE: Otto Posted by: rinthy
watch the movie "Earthlings"
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Apr 19, 2008 11:48 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
watch the movie "Earthlings"

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"Oh how the jackals gather, when famine stalks the land.."
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Apr 19, 2008 12:09 PM   
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People laugh at you, or disregard you if you write about The Bilderbrg Group and their international fascist agenda but this was all a part of their plans to reduce the world population and instigate wars so as to also reduce population while increasing their own profits and wealth...

The gap between haves and have nots is growing but also their solution for the poor is to have less of them...

At a certain point surplus labor becomes a burden since there will be no purpose for these billions to serve The Bilderbergers and David Rockefeller's International corporate one world fascist regime and regiment..which will be his legacy to live this earth as much worse off as he can before he himself departs it..

It's what I call the misery factor, at a certain point after you have a few billions of dollars it's not how much you have that counts any longer but how much less others have which makes you feel you are sufficiently wealthy this is the misery factor...

They; Rockefeller and his ilk Murdoch, the Bush family can't stand that poor people are often more happy content and know and feel greater love than they do or ever have so they use their wealth to inflict misery upon those with less to compensate for the banality of their lives burdened with millions and billions and knowing still that others who are functionally poor are much more happy than these Bilderberg Group fascists can or ever will be..

Jeffery Sachs was on Charlie Rose speaking of this in depth recently and to solve the really serious need to feed the poorest of this world and get them started towards being self sufficient would require only $1 billion dollars, that's all $1 billion less than we spend in Iraq in 1 week..!

Still these ghouls that prey upon humanity the bankers these fascist media ghouls and others of The Bilderberg Group would rather people starve that they no longer exist..there are too many of them and we see this attitude in our own governments policies an lies with things like the Millenium Challenge which exists in name only..

Here we had the Pope in NY at the U.N. and didn't here a direct plea and chastisement of the governments of the world for allow people to starve or fear they will have no food or of the killing in Iraq or the Recd Chinese holding Catholics including priests and Bishops and Cardinals even in their prisons among others and also the murders China is committing in Tibet or allowing in Darfur..

As Paul Sibel wrote:

"Oh how the jackals gather, when famine stalks the land..!"

The Bilderberg Group are the jackals of this world..

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hoodoowah
Posted by: hoodoowah on Apr 19, 2008 12:10 PM   
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Raj Patel's comments are for the most part quite perceptive. He slips a bit at the end, however, on his comments about the United Fruit Co. (now called Chiquita Brands). First, the president of Guatemala in the early 1950s was named Jacobo Arbenz Guzman, not Jacobo Guzman (Guzman is his mama's surname). Secondly, the issue was not so much taxation but the appropriation of unused land controlled by UFCo. This was a very hot issue. Statistics in Guatemala are notoriously unreliable, but the usual rule of thumb has it that two percent of the people control 98% of the land -- one of the worst indices of land ownership distribution in the world (it's still that way).
Arbenz proposed to give several hundred thousands acres of UFCo.'s unused land to landless campesinos. The land was unused because banana companies stockpiled land for future use. The spread of diseases in banana plants was such that fields often had to be abandoned after only five or ten years of use.
Arbenz's proposal set off a battle royal. The head of the CIA, Allen Dulles, had been managing partner of Sullivan & Cromwell, a Wall Street law firm which negotiated UFCo.'s contract with Guatemala in the late 1930s. The lead attorney in those negotiations was Allen's brother, John Foster Dulles, Eisenhower's first secretary of state.
The Dulles brothers immediately set out to overthrow the Arbenz government. They succeeded in 1954, and as Patel notes, that has led to the orgy of violence we've witnessed since then. (I might also note that a year earlier the Dulles brothers instigated the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Iran and installed the shah -- very much at the root of problems which persist to this day.)

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There is, indeed, a conspiracy to control the world's food supply
Posted by: wireup on Apr 19, 2008 12:34 PM   
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And it is headed up by companies like Monsanto and by CODEX ALIMENTARIUS.

The Clintons are intimately involved with Monsanto.

Go here to read

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_26557.shtml
William Clinton and Monsanto – a Team for Mutual Profit

and here to read AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON FROM A WELLESLEY COLLEGE ALUMNA
http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/310/

If you want to know about CODEX ALIMENTARIUS - and I URGE you to educate yourself on this very urgent issue - then go here to watch a 45-minute video on CODEX

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634
Nutricide - Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs

This video was done by a NY psychiatrist who also set up a website

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/

Finally, would you like to know about a HORRIBLE disease that has been found to be associated with genetically modified food? Then go here

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?p=599

to learn about this truly bizarre illness that comes from eating genetically modified food. I never heard of it till I received an email from the Health Freedom website. It will make your hair stand on end. Apparently, it is so painful that people with it have committed suicide.

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Traders??
Posted by: Shama on Apr 19, 2008 1:07 PM   
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There appears to be something else working with regard to the price of oil and food. I need some help from you readers. How does the market price of oil goes up everyday when OPEC do not raise their price daily? It appears to be something similar to Enron - trading to simply push up prices. There appears to be too much money bidding up the price. With interest rates low, money appears to be flowing into commodities - oil, food, metals, etc.

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» RE: Traders?? Posted by: worksg1
» RE: Traders?? Posted by: worksg1
» RE: Traders?? Posted by: richholland
» RE: Traders?? Posted by: VZEQICVA
Another Issue
Posted by: worksg1 on Apr 19, 2008 1:15 PM   
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This is a fine article but there is another issue, rarely mentioned, that is just as important. Since WW2 the world population has doubled but the available farmland has not. Neither has the ability of the earth to absorb greenhouse gasses. We must stabilize world population, or face ever increasing shortages, environmental problems, and illegal immigration of poor people looking for a better life.

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Overpopulation
Posted by: wobblies on Apr 19, 2008 2:17 PM   
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Hi~
I am surprised that overpopulation, 6.6 billions people and growing, is not even mentioned as a factor in food availability or prices. Why is that?

God Speed,
David

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» RE: Overpopulation Posted by: HenryCordeal
» RE: Overpopulation Posted by: bifheart
Let's face it, folks
Posted by: willymack on Apr 19, 2008 4:37 PM   
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The Big Boys are putting the squeeze on the rest of us, and the ONLY remedy for this is to start squeezing back. Big time. There are a lot more of us than them, after all.

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I notice fewer arguments in favor of biofuel since food riots began.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Apr 19, 2008 6:45 PM   
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That is a form of progress. Many posters are now aware that we
cannot replace fossil fuels with biofuel. Why did it take food
riots to convince them? They should have listened when I
said that 2 or 3 more Earths would be needed to replace fossil fuel
with biofuel.
Will something analogous happen with wind and solar power?
Hopefully without too many deaths? And hopefully before it is
too late to stop global warming because of too many thresholds
having been crossed. The food riots are a great lesson. Food
riots WILL happen in the USA if global warming is allowed to
continue. Wind and solar power are not adequate to put an end to
burning fossil fuel. I hope wind and solar power advocates come
to their senses soon enough. EFFECTIVE action has to be taken
immediately to stop the burning of coal first, because coal is the
biggest single source of CO2. People who advocate solar and
wind power are playing into the hands of the $100 Billion/year
coal industry because the coal fire must be kept burning to even
out the variability in wind and the lack of sunshine at night. Of
course, the coal industry keeps putting up front web sites and
funding books claiming that nuclear power is dangerous. Nuclear
power is the safest. I do not have a financial connection to the
nuclear industry.

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Food riots will happen in the US if global warming isn't stopped.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Apr 19, 2008 6:50 PM   
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Downloaded FROM: Environmental Defense
http://environmentaldefenseblogs.org/
climate411/2008/01/14/global_winds/

This post is by James Wang, Ph.D., a climate scientist at Environmental Defense.

You may have heard about the persistent droughts in the western U.S., Australia,
and other regions. The Upper Colorado River Basin is experiencing a protracted,
multi-year drought that started in 1999. Australia's record drought is threatening
the livelihood of traditional farmers and ranchers.

At what point does a passing drought become a permanent shift to desert
conditions, and why would such a thing happen?

It can happen because of global warming. Climate change can alter global winds,
the strength and location of high and low pressure systems, and other climate
factors.

.........shortened.........Graphics and URLs omitted.

Global winds shape the Earth's climate, determining - in broad strokes - which
areas are tropical, desert, or temperate. Here's a simplified overview of how it
works.

The Sun heats the Earth most intensely in the tropical zone around the equator. The
heated air rises, cools, and then dumps its moisture as rain. That's why there are
rain forests in the tropics.

The now drier air is forced by the continuously rising equatorial air to move
towards the temperate latitudes on either side of the equator. At roughly 30° N and
S - called the "horse latitudes" - it can move no further due to the Earth’s rotation,
and settles to the surface. As the air sinks, it compresses and warms, creating hot,
rain-free conditions. This circulation pattern, called a Hadley cell, is why the
deserts of the world are located just poleward of the tropics, to the north and south.

Poleward of the desert belt, strong, high-altitude winds known as the jet streams
flow from west to east, carrying large storms with them. These mid-latitude,
temperate-region storms are an important source of rain and snow, especially
during the winter season. Much of the world's population lives in the temperate
region. It includes most of the U.S. and southern Canada, most of Europe, East
Asia, southern South America, southern Africa, and southern Australia and New
Zealand.

But climate regions aren't fixed. Several independent studies have found that
global winds are shifting due to global warming, and the shifts are faster than
predicted by climate models. Most recently is this new study in Nature
Geoscience. The tropical belt has widened by several degrees latitude since 1979.
This is consistent with other observations suggesting that the jet streams and storm
tracks have moved poleward.

The drought-stricken Upper Colorado River Basin, which includes Lake Powell, is
located just poleward of the horse latitudes at around 37° N. This has historically
been in the temperate zone, but the desert zone may be gradually encroaching upon
it. (Since nothing is simple, there are other factors contributing to this particular
drought, as well.) Similarly, water-starved Sydney, Australia at 34° S is just
poleward of the southern horse latitude.

What we may be seeing here is not so much drought as desertification - a shift in
global climate patterns due to global warming. Areas that used to be in temperate
zones may be shifting into desert, while areas that had been arid receive more
precipitation.

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Another 1 degree C is all it takes to starve America
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Apr 19, 2008 7:10 PM   
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"Six Degrees" by Mark Lynas Downloaded from:
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summary-of-six-degrees-as-
published-in-the-guardian

'Six steps to hell' - summary of Six Degrees as published in the Guardian 23 April 07:

By the end of the [21st] century, the Earth could be more than 6C hotter than it is
today, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. We know that
would be bad news – but just how bad? How big a rise will it take for the Alps to
melt, the oceans to die and desert to conquer Europe and the Americas? Mark
Lynas sifted through thousands of scientific papers for his new book on global
warming. This is what the research told him…

The following is an article by Mark Lynas based on his book Six Degrees: Our
Future on a Hotter Planet. It was published in the Guardian on 23 April 2007. The
original version is available here.

1ºC: Nebraska isn’t at the top of most tourists’ to-do lists. However, this dreary
expanse of impossibly flat plains sits in the middle of one of the most productive
agricultural systems on Earth. Beef and corn dominate the economy, and the Sand
Hills region – where low, grassy hillocks rise up from the flatlands – has some of
the best cattle ranching in the whole US. But scratch beneath the grass and you
will find, as the name suggests, not soil but sand. These innocuous-looking hills
were once desert, part of an immense system of sand dunes that spread across the
Great Plains from Texas in the south to the Canadian prairies in the north. Six
thousand years ago, when temperatures were about 1C warmer than today in the
US, these deserts may have looked much as the Sahara does today. As global
warming bites, the western US could once again be plagued by perennial drought –
devastating agriculture and driving out human inhabitants on a scale far larger than
the 1930s “Dustbowl” exodus.

1ºC is 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit. Since the year 1750, we have already caused 1.3
degrees Fahrenheit of global warming. You didn't notice it because you are not
300 years old. The rate of global warming continues to speed up. It won't take much longer.

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» Some of us do notice ... Posted by: Cathyc
Food prices and riots ar harbingers of the collapse of civilization.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Apr 19, 2008 7:20 PM   
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Rising food prices can be, and are in this case, an indication of the impending
collapse of civilization. Yes, it is the fault of people for overpopulating, just as
any other organism does. Yes, the production of biofuels is speeding up the
process of famine, but is not the root cause.

In "The Long Summer" by Brian Fagan, he discusses 2 or 3 dozen civilizations
that have fallen because of climate changes that were smaller than the climate
change that we have already made. "Collapse, How Societies Choose to Fail or
Succeed" by Jared Diamond discusses an additional dozen societies, some extinct,
others now on local brinks. The proper action to avoid more global warming is
not being taken. Atlanta, Georgia and a belt all the way around the earth at that
latitude is experiencing drought already and it will only get worse. Read "Six
Degrees" by Mark Lynos. Conclusion: OUR civilization has a 90% chance of
failing, unless the next president of the US takes really drastic action. That is an
unacceptably high risk. Read "Collapse, How Societies Choose to Fail or
Succeed" by Jared Diamond to find out just how bad times could get if civilization
collapses. Expect to not survive a collapse of civilization. We should
immediately start with replacing all coal fired power plants with nuclear power
plants worldwide, and finish the job by 2015. If this is not done, our chances of
going EXTINCT are entirely too high. Read "Six Degrees" by Mark Lynos.

Religion has contributed to the collapse of many civilizations in the past.
Christianity contributed to the collapse of the Greenland Viking civilization
according to that book by Jared Diamond. There were other contributions to the
collapse of the Greenland Viking civilization, such as climate change. Religious
contributions to collapse this time include all of the world's religions, including the
religion-like objections to nuclear power. 32 nations have nuclear power plants,
only 9 have the bomb. Yes, some religions are worse than others, but "Our enemy
is nothing other than faith itself." as Sam Harris says on page 131 of "The End of
Faith." As Sam Harris also says, Islam is the most dangerous at the moment since
the Koran and the Hadith instruct believers to exterminate non believers. That
does not exonerate other religions, such as Christianity.

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MacDaKnife
Posted by: SMM on Apr 19, 2008 7:56 PM   
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Like so many things wrong in the US, and the world, seeing the problem, and understanding the factors contributing to it, are a good beginning. However, that knowledge is too often a long way from solving it.

One possible strategy is for the small farmer group to establish a co-op to process their crops and (possibly a second) to provide a distribution network. That would put more money in their pockets and reduce the overall cost for consumers. This would be a blow to the current corporation domination of the food chain. They would fight back and they wield a heavy bat. Fortunately, it would be difficult to contain.

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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 19, 2008 8:23 PM   
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No, we must re-examine corporate control of the PLANET.


Direct Democracy

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» RE: Terrorist Posted by: Spot
Predictions aren't helpful if nobody is listening.
Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 19, 2008 8:46 PM   
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Is the American electorate listening yet? Polls say that we no longer want Bush as prexy. BFD. We needed to know that before we elected him to two terms.

Until people are willing to scream because we are suffering, those who have it all (the political class in the US) could care less. They get subsidized food, shelter, and clothes--not to mention medical care.

And if the next riots burn down the ghettos, they still won't care. It is against the law to advocate violence, so instead of burning down Beverly Hills, etc., let's do like the truckers are doing. Get in the way. All it takes is a broken down car on the freeway to tie up traffic. I have a broken down car to contribute, as I bet a whole lot of other people do, too.

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Bu$h was not elected president, but
Posted by: drfun on Apr 20, 2008 12:44 AM   
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installed by the Monkey Supreme Court in 2000. In 2004,Ohio county-clerks were too inconvenienced to do a recount. When you say he was elected only re-enforces the lies of this administration.

The problem is religion and cultural traditions place enormous pressure on people to procreate. Lack of education, and job opportunities limit many females around the world to domesticated lifestyles.

The privileged of the world have a NWO agenda of un-ending war, epidemics and chaotic disasters for the masses to endure till a more sustainable population level is attained to provide their needs.

Which will accept the RFID chip in exchange for survival.

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