. . . Chris Matthews has been the voice of reason against the unreasonable right wing. Wow. First Pat Buchanan, now Kevin James.

Methinks the MSM sees the writing on the wall and knows that it will be a Republican bloodbath in the fall.

Goodbye far right wing. Goodbye and good riddance.

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How does this uneducated fool have a radio show? Oh wait, nevermind.

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This moron is the loudest and most vacuous that I've ever heard. He didn't know that the Munich conference was about the annexation of the Sudentenland by Germany and that all Chamberlain got back was a promise to stop there. JEEEZUSSSS!! I learned that in 8th grade history class ... but back then there really was education in the educational system.

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Sometimes, just sometimes that load foot in the mouth Matthew's gets it right. Smack Down Kevin James, NO. SCHOOLED HIS ASS IS MORE LIKE IT!!! James tension meter was a little high to begin with but I agree with that comment,"when you're in the hole stop digging." Kevin James did not know what the hell words meant that he was saying. He heard some right wing idiot use it and he thought it was a good word so he ran with it and ended up being the a-hole of the week. Mr. James, READ A LITTLE. This is why our schools can not afford any more cut backs in core education programs, like ENGLISH AND HISTORY.

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Bush said "believe we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along" -- but that's not what 'negotiate' means at all. Negotiate means reaching a settlement with someone you don't agree with -- not that you convert someone to your own point of view. That's what's called a 'negotiated settlement'.

It's no wonder Bush can't conduct foreign policy; he doesn't know first thing about negotiation means. Gore Vidal was right in his interview on Democracy Now a few days ago: these right wingers are profoundly ignorant.

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First the Idiot - like most Repug neo Cons refuses to remeber weh ave ahd a probem with the Middle East since the '70's.WE TOLD OUR GOV'T & OUR INCS to GOT OUT & OFF M.E. OIL THEN - 12 years of Ronny & HW 's Corp whoring polices pertpetuated the Problem. Granted Billy kept putting bandaids on Gun Shot wound - but by then the Corps were running OUR COUNTRY!
Bravo Chris for Demanding an answer WHY ISREAL has become so Pinnacle in Our Naitonal Policies.Why not because the SOB's give a shit about the people of Isreal- It is necessary for Isreal to regain it's lands and continue to be apoint of contention to help Proliferate the Sociopathic Theology Regarding End Of Days!
See who is Friends and Follower (appeasers) to Hagee & Parlsey. Listen to Hagee's stratedgy on how to bring about Armegeddon, See Why Isreal is so inexpliciably ingrained in our Domestic & foreign Policy ( check Duel Citizenships of high ranking Politician and Staff).Then listen to Hagee's betrayal of the jewish community once HE has had their way with Them and Has Been 'Raptured'- Note Jews can only be 'rescued ' if they CONVERT. they are extending a Laural leaf in one hand to distract them from the Sword in the other!REv Wright was smeared so viciously to also distract from the Religious ideologies which actually present a Naitonal and international Security Issue!Granted Hagee /parsley would just be more 'end of time' Crazies- it is their association with People in Power (with decision making ability, finger on the trigger) that makes them a Danger to all Mankind! Iran, Nor Hamas, nor AQ nor hezbola nor Rev Wright have nuclear capablity - not even any form of WMD- the yae Red herrings!teh media better start reporting on this with as much zeal and fervor as they do on the Rest of the Religious philosphies- Or they will have a great Deal of more Blood on their hands and conscience- these are sociopathic meglomaniacs with delusions of Granduer who have Friends in HIGH PLACES!Isreal is a Pawn and no doubt a constnat money maker for the Inc's,Wars are profittable as long as you have no Morals or Ethics!

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What a beautiful sight to behold! Love it! I can onl;y hope this is tghe start of a complete deconstruction of the alternate reality now held as truth by millions and millions of people who are even more ignorant than this little worm.

At the risk of alienating those who shrink from any POV that uses Hitler as an analogy, let me just say that it is people like Kevin James and Rush Limbaugh who enable tyrants - left and right! - to do what they do. Without men who blindly accept the words of whoever is in authority, whoever has the microphone or whoever is wearing the uniform, there would have been no WW2, no 9/11, no Iraq War. Their refusal to accept any information that contradicts nationalist or religious rhetoric, denying the source by accusing it of being in league with the enemy (check out David Horowitz's crusade against smart people) has been a source of fascination by social psychologists for generations. Mountains of data on right-wing conservatives cruelty and their overly-simplistic view of right and wrong are available for study, with little to no research done on why left-liberals want to feed the poor, prefer diplomacy over war and prefer rehabilitation over more incarceration. It would seem that these are considered self-evident to rational people. Not so the right-wing. We must remember that Osama bin Laden, George Bush, Hitler, Likud, and Saddam, Hussein are all right-wingers. Stalin was a conservative. Put them together and you have the tyranny of the status quo; a hatred of those who desire change for the better of all.

What we just saw there was a brilliant confirmation of a theory on what goes into right-wing conservativism from the perspective of individual personalities, an idea proposed by researchers at no less a prestigious institute as the DHS's own think-tank on advanced learning on terrorism and counter-terrorism.

As for the substance of the conversation, whether or not enemies should talk to each other trying to find a way to avoid war, one only need ask themselves, who better to talk to? You don't have such problems with your friends, I presume? In any case, from the same DHS-funded think-tank on counter-terrorism:

"In addition to the revival of individualism, extremist collectivist ideologies should be replaced by more moderate and tolerant ideologies that promise to restore group dignity without resorting to violence. Diplomacy, negotiations, nation-building and education would be required to occasion such an ideological shift."

As for the "position of strength" our yahoo keeps miming Bush with: "the stronger the terrorism’s ideological base the greater the need for differentiation and selectivity in the use of force against the terrorists. By this I mean well-aimed, “surgical” strikes that truly minimize the hurting of innocents (for) in the case of strongly ideological terrorism it may be vastly counterproductive. Collateral damage” inflicted on the Palestinians by the Israelis, the sanctions imposed on Iraq, the prospects of ethnic profiling in the US, are all examples of a woeful lack of differentiation between the guilty and the innocents, that in the case of a strongly ideological terrorism may only contribute to its resilience and resolve."

In short, DHS's own counter-terrorism panel contradicts Bush, the Likudniks and neocons; not Barrack Obama. Quotes taken from Inside The Terrorist Mind

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Kevin James is illustrative of the general stupidity rampant in the right wing neocon mentality. How can anyone but an arrogant Bushie appear on national television as poorly prepared as this idiot? I laughed so hard that I had to get a drink of water.

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the state of political discourse in the USA. Unfortunately the good people of America will not stop listening to garbage debates, effecting a drop in the ratings, undermining their commercial viability and thereby getting rid of all of them. That, of course, is another sad comment even in itself. However, there are better choices...aren't there? Bill Moyers and a few others?

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Is there a special school for the wingnut radio-hosts?

These morons regurgitate the same talking-points.

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That was one of the sublime moments in the history of broadcast news! Please, when you're finished reading all of the great articles and comments on AlterNet, have a look at what I wrote on this very subject. Here's a link:

THEY'RE SOOO DUMB!!!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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Kevin James will keep his job.

Count on it.

The right and their corporate guardians forgive their people anything, even looking like a complete ignorant ass. All for the greater cause of total corporate fascism.

See liberals hold their talk show hosts to being factually accurate. The right operates along Goebbels lines: any lie told in defense of corporatism is forgiven.

And I say this as a former radio talk show host in Central Illinois that was fired in 2003 for turning against Bush and the war. Ratings didn't save me.

Kevin James will keep his job and all will be forgiven and forgotten by the right.

If only the American left was this single minded.

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Kevin James method of presenting himself brings back not so fond memories of the high school locker room/jock bully. All brawn, bluster and not much substance.

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I never thought Chris Mathews would be the voice of reason! I only wished he'd cut the mic on the childish screamer and let the Air America guy have a chance.

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That was one of the funniest damn things I have seen in a very long time.

This whole argument is absurd. NEGOTIATION AND APPEASEMENT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

To equate negotiating with a country with appeasing Hitler is a total joke. I bet George W. would not be able to answer the question any better than Mr. James.


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Kevin James is in absolutely no danger of losing his job because he has the essentially requisites needed by the Neocons who played the major role in starting this insane war in Iraq- HIS INTELLECTUAL SHORTCOMINGS. (Hey, this could qualify him as the next candidate for the presidency.)

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I suspect that George Bush and his Neocon helpers killed the Republican Party and its ashes are blowing away right now. Huckabee represents the Evangelical wing that abandoned George Bush's Brand. They finally realized that Georgie was a lying, deceiving criminal. Huckabee has joined forces with McCane but it is a no show for them after the betrayal by Bush. I suspect the vast majority of evangelicals are suspicious of them all. The puppet version of the Republican party, called Moderates under the brain dead McCane, have no support. Then there is the last third of the party. They are broken down between the Corporations and their supporters, the NEOCONS OR zionists and the drifters who adore the hate radio commentators and those that breathe when Fox Breathes. These people are the die hard NAZIS and they will soon be gone. They don't yet know that they are zombies. Still, they have created a monster type pinochet government and destroyed our constitution. We have the democrats to thank for that.

Of course, when the Democrats realize they are in for the same rejection as the republicans, they will also evaporate. I think there is a total disenchantment with them all. They betrayed the people just as much as that criminal George Bush. The more the democrats betray the electorate, the more democracy reinforces the values of war and imperialism, the more nails these traitors hammer into their coffins. Still, for now, the people think they have a new leader in Obama. They don't. When he's president, the zionist war goes on... The zionist destruction of the UN continues...and the zionists will continue to bleed America dry. Obama has proven his loyalty by declaring HAMAS a terrorist organization and ISRAEL his Patard. Sick.

All of these factors set the stage for a revolution and as long as we are hammered by the crimes in Iraq and the crimes of the Right wing Hate Media , the people will only bail out or our wonderful democracy. That said, we still have the a new Pinochet type government that means to suppress any discontent.

The president and his supporters have not paid for thier crimes. The democrats have tried to hide them or ignore them. It won't flush. Theyu did not impeach; they did not set the record straight...all they did was what the republicans have done over the years.

The Republican Party is like a Phoenix and always seems to rise up because this country is sick. I hope they stay dead this time.

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Before we all fall all over ourselves patting Chris M. on the back, let's ask the question -- why did the network put this idiot Kevin James on the air in the first place? This is the fundamental problem with the media and how it has betrayed our country. Instead of putting on an idiot that you have to shout over, put on someone who knows what they are talking about in the first place.

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Why would anyone wonder why this man or the group he backs would not want to talk to those they want to fight, to demonize? Kevin James is simpley running the game plan of these sleaze balls been used for 6 years. The whole scope of their argument is to repeat words that strike fear into the listener. 9/11, terrorist, WMDS, appeasement. Say it enough times and I suppose the matra miraculously becomes a factually backed argument. Can you imagine these people if they really had to talk with someone, instead of to them, or about them?

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That Kevin James has to be one of the biggest out-and-out extreme rightwing asses I've ever seen. I am really glad Tweety put him in his place. I think Tweety gave him a little too much air time, and allowed him to keep talking over the other guy, but I loved "when you're in the hole, stop digging."

I don't even know where to start with this. Yup, Kevin James will keep his job. How many Freepers will be cheering this pathetic display as a win for Kevin James, because he was THE LOUDEST? And the most ignorant, and pushy? All very upstanding qualities to the far right.

I just loved that Tweety wouldn't let him get away with it. That is pretty unusual, Tweety's no friend of the liberals.

Hey OT but did anyone else see Rachel Maddow host Countdown last night? She did a TERRIFIC job. I think they are grooming her for her own show. Maybe MSNBC are wising up. Hope Joe Scarborough is the next to get the boot.

I actually don't mind Pat Buchanan, because sometimes he's at least funny and he's a pretty lame duck really, he doesn't do anything for the righties (much like Colmes on FauxNoise does for the left... ha ha!).

I hope this means the media is beginning to wake up & smell the coffee. I do know this would not have happened 2 years ago.

Still, the mainstream media will have to go a loooong way in restoring any faith I have in them. They were 100% complicit in their approval of Raygun all the way through Bush; the result is what you see today, disasters abounding.

Olbermann was the first voice of reason; yeah... maybe he is spiking the water. LOL!

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OK, I just had to comment on the fact that what the hell was this idiot doing bringing up 911 and Clinton? That just made it more over-the-top histerical. I nearly busted my seams laughing! That's ALL they know how to throw at anything! You could ask them why they think it's a good idea to keep gays from marrying and they'd answer "Clinton " and "911". The problem is, the morons who never pick up a book or watch too much FauxNoise will actually believe them.

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When I was in grade school, I got fascinated with astronomy, and had borrowed an astronomy book from the school library one day, when I was accosted by some of the class bullies who began to taunt me about my interest in astronomy. If it wasn't that, it would've been something else. The bullies were careful about how far they went with the verbal abuse because they knew I had an explosive temper and was pretty handy in a fight. They started an arguement that went something like this "OK, smarty pants; what's the biggest planet?" I instantly replied:"Jupiter" One of them snached the book from me and opened it to a page clearly described as "The Sun as viewed from", then the names of the planets from Mercury on out to Pluto. Naturally, the sun as viewed from Mercury looks larger than from any other planet because it's the closest to the sun. One of the fools triumphantly and derisively declared that I was full of it, and that Mercury was the biggest planet. The reason I mention this is that when I heard that fox asswipe trying to shout down his ignorance not only of history, but of the meaning of the word "appeasement", I flashed back to my grade school days and to the pathetic ignoramuses and their truth by consensus, regardless of Reality. When faced by any challenge or rebuttal of their silly blathers, they immediately attempt to shout down anyone who points out the facts, and look around for anyone who will reinforce their silliness and establish a truth by consensus. his is why the fox fools are seldom alone to go one-on-one with anyone with a brain and the facts readily at hand. They're those grade school bullies in adult bodies.

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'1948 was when israel got its independence.'

israel wasn't a country until 1948. it hadn't existed for a couple of thousand years. the small number of jews who were there before 1948 were zionists, followers of a european movement from the late 19th c.

modern israel was created by the allied nations who had won ww2, created by forcing the palestinians off the land they had lived on for those 2000 years.

anyone remember israel bonds--that americans bought in the 50s and 60s to finance the continued existence of israel?

anyone remember that saudi arabia was also created by europeans (including gertrude bell, who has been pretty much forgotten)?

two countries in the middle east that wouldn't exist without european interference in the region.

and this country still hasn't a clue about indigenous personnel feel about foreign policies.

and yes, it was always about oil.

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...in the Battle of the Jaywalk Allstars!

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Anyone who's been to my own website and a dozen more knows that I have used Mathews' tactic scores of times to silence the "know it alls." From the energy crisis, to the Murrah Building, to the World Trade Center, to global warming, to the tactics of Iraq, and beyond, the Internet, letters to the editor, and public debate in general are replete with people who pontificate on matters concering which they have little or no knowledge. And if anyone thinks these people are limited to conservatives, he is grossly wrong (I happen to know because it's a study I've been doing for six years now). Liberals are worse than conservatives by almost two to one. How it has come to be, on the other hand, that anyone will argue concerning something he doesn't know even the basics is something about which I confess to be totally nonplussed, however. I can only say it would be comical - were it not so ominous where democracy is concerned.

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In the words of Emerson, "What you are thunders so loudly that I can't hear what you may say to the contrary."

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These right-wingers are all the same when they get exposed. Just watch their body language. They start flailing their hands and arms and get loud. Then they pause and studder.

I think they teach that in their school of logic!

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This clip is hilarious.Any thinking person, would have done their research ,prior to discussing politics on television.This guy Kevin James,has attempted to use his loudmouth,and repetitive rhetoric to browbeat his way through this debate/argument.
When he uses the words "legitimise" and "energise",he sounds like a modern ,shallow business speaker.Weasel words,from a weasal of a man.(with no disrespect to weasels,who i would guess,have a greater grasp of 20th century political history than Kevin james).
I am left wondering ,how he became a talk-show host?His lack of knowledge,on basic,and critical historical detail, is staggering.
If I were Kevin James,I would now,drop out of public view,and reassess my career,and probably my life.
I hadn't heard of Kevin James prior ,to seeing this clip,he isn't known in the UK.But I will spread this clip around,to make sure that he is known.

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This clip just goes to prove my theory that Joseph Goebbels didnt commit suicide in 1945 and murder his wife and children. But was whisked away by the Soviets and set up in a school ( The Joseph Goebbels school of media manipulation) somewhere in the southern US. With the sole purpose of under mining our country. The list of graduates of this school is long and distinguished, the list may be but the graduates aren't.
I wonder does this radio comedian even know who I'm talking about.
Thank you Chris for exposing this hypocrite I just wish you wouldnt kiss up to others like him.
xvet

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While 99% of Alternet readers will likely agree that Kevin James was a blathering idiot and that Matthews played a great gotcha game, the fact is that Chris Matthews gave James 99% of the airtime and the Air America guy (does anyone even remember his name?) maybe 1%. The average viewer heard 'appeaser' around a dozen times and associated it with Obama. Mainstream viewers may also have identified and sympathized with James (as they did with simpleminded Bush), feeling Matthews was picking on and shaming him.

Matthew allowed the hysteria to go on rather than give the Air America guy a chance to provide some facts. (Boring to mainstream media.) So, I'm sure the right wing strategists are chuckling at their success. Their campaign will be to frame Obama as an America hating (no flag pin, association with radicals like Wright and the Weather Underground) sissy/wimp who prefers talk to manly battle. The sissy/wimp theme will exploit both homophobia and sexism.

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looks like he's under 42 years of age. He should enlist. The blanket parties would be awesome!:D

jdfu!

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We can another name to the infamous and long Chicken Hawk list: Kevin James. Another "tough talking" asshole who couldn't be "bothered" with serving when his time came. FYI: I'm a veteran of 28 years active duty in the US Air Force. I am sick and tired of these spouting "tough guy armchair warriors." That includes the Chicken CIC! Remember, on 9-11 Bush hid in the old SAC HQ UNDERGOUND outside Omaha!!!!!

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PLEASE. You think Chris Matthews was representing the voice of reason?
Chris Matthews was interested in one thing only: proving he, Chris Matthews, was right.

He considers himself a student of history, and is heartily amused (while appearing offended) when lesser mortals don't know (almost) as much as he does. He chewed up what felt like ten minutes of primo interview time while Mark Green was put on ice. And did anybody notice that later, Matthews said of James "He's a good guy; we'll have him back." This means that despite James' abysmal lack of knowledge, he forgave the dim bulb because, like Matthews himself, he was tenacious. NEITHER would give up until James said the magic words: "I was wrong." I bet Kevin James has an agent and a job offer. And Matthews is viewed as a hero? Puh-LEASE.

And why is Matthews still on the air when he's planning to run for public office--as a Republican--as soon as this election cycle is over? Every Repub wingnut he has on the show will be expected to have his back on the trail. I hope he runs--and gets beaten--BY A WOMAN. (His treatment of both Clintons has been hideous....he criticizes everything about Hillary, and manages to work in a Lewinsky reference at least once per show.)

May he join Tucker Carlson in TV purgatory
(Senior Correspondent? Yeah, right!), and soon. May "CountDown"--and Rachel Maddow, with her own show--replace him in time for February sweeps in 2009!

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About time we recognized Matthews for the left
wing's version of O'Reilly. Just as nasty.
He's about as unbiased as Dick Cheney and his misogyny has convinced me never to take him seriously again.
His love affair with the vapid rhetoric of a political novice shows that he's not the experienced, wise political commentator I want to listen to, but a bandwagon joe who goes for a sugartalking male unlikely to be able to deliver on his words.

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...is forgetting one key detail of the historical affair that he keeps referencing: it was Chamberlain, not Churchill, who declared war on Germany. Sure, Chamberlain was bamboozled in Munich, but the rest of the free world were equally bamboozled by Hitler in the 30's (Just as the US congress was via the Patriot Act in 2001). But, Chamberlain knew that he'd been had, and he did something about it. Meanwhile, key elements of the US business world (including the current president's grandfather) financed the Nazi regime so that Hitler could arm himself, and were content to sit back and profit from the war while London burned.

I think we've been had by Fascists, too - except half of the voting demographic in the US (including Mr. James) don't realize it. They're too dense to see that they've been party to a modern-day appeasement process.

Plus ça change...

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