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The Case for Impeachment

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 7:51 AM on February 27, 2006.


'I don't know why we would run the risk of not impeaching the man'
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From Taegan Goddard: "An interesting essay in Harpers by Lewis Lapham makes the case for impeaching President Bush."

"Before reading the [Conyer's] report, I wouldn't have expected to find myself thinking that such a course of action was either likely or possible; after reading the report, I don't know why we would run the risk of not impeaching the man."

Lapham, as Harper's readers know, is a sort of radical pragmatist. In any case, he's no firecracker, so when the outgoing editor calls for the mechanism of impeachment to begin, it's a realistic call... (TaeganGoddard)

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RE: Impeachment
Posted by: dale0k on Feb 27, 2006 9:00 AM   
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Regular Americans don't know what the libs are selling. They do know what the repubs are selling (But not what they really are doing). The right-wing noise machine does it's job well, blurring the message of the opposition, and playing up the emotional issues of patriotism, fear, bigotry, etc. It is so easy to play that game, sink that low, tell people how wonderful things are, that we just have a bunch of wacko trouble-makers saying it's not so. It is frustrating to try to get anything through to people, when the major media are unwilling to spoil the "good news" with a dose of reality. This is a nasty bunch of corrupt, incompetent leaders, who seemingly have on teflon suits. You tell me, what do you think dems are selling? Bet you haven't got a clue. Good job, Rove and Co. Disgustingly good.

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RE: Impeachment
Posted by: jstillwater on Feb 27, 2006 11:03 AM   
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"Libs" ARE regular Americans, and regular Americans are not conserative agenda robots. Republicans are questioning the Bush administration. It's about time that moderates stepped up and a small, vocal, right wing minority stopped manipulating public policy.

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RE: Impeachment WHY WAIT?
Posted by: Cardascian on Feb 27, 2006 3:22 PM   
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By the time Bush Jr is done following in his fathers oil footsteps there won't be much of a nation to continue.....If anyone doesn't believe that then they are BRAIN DEAD and never functioned.
We are sinking rapidly.
LEAD the CHARGE to impeach BUSH NOW watch the FBI come to our door ASAP at least we are doing the right thing for our nation and heritage.
Bush wants to control us; have us nurture our sons and daughters for elite-oil power mongers while our borders are open for the worlds 96% overpopulation which includes it all.

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RE: Impeachment
Posted by: Darren7160 on Mar 1, 2006 9:27 AM   
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Spanky69,
Always is pretty definitive... can you give some examples? We really should be precise because words like ALWAYS and NEVER can make reasonable discussion denigrate into nothing more than playground name calling and pointing of fingers.
A bit of advice... politics change. What is true today does not mean that it always will be so. People get upset at the Democrats because they are trashing President Bush. Regardless of what he does! Hmmm, to me it seems like it is just a matter of payback.
You see, while the Republicans were printing "IMPEACH CLINTON" even before he was sworn in the first time the Demcrats were taking notes! It is amazing that the Republicans believed they could get away with stuff like that and then everyone would work together once they were in power. So, yes. It is payback.
And, as to my point above... the Republicans will not always be in power. Wishing won't make it happen. Otherwise we would be looking to Iraq right now as a model of a democratic society. Ain't happenin'.
So, when the belief is that partisan politics is more important than running the country, and that the majority party can disregard the minority party completely... don't cry too much when it happens to you. Because, we do take notes!
Personally, I cannot wait to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Republicans when we shut them out of meetings, create social programs in private meetings, take back the money given to the HMOs ($22 billion) in a Republican only private meeting... when we hold public policy (energy) in private and ask the courts to help us keep it secret!
Once the man swears into the office of President he is supposed to be representing America... not a political party. Sadly, President Bush and the people who support him do not belive that any other way but theirs is the "right" way. Anything else is "appeasment" or "multiculturalism" or _______________.
Amazingly (or not) this is the type of attitude that brought us to our current condition. I know that to change one's opinion is "bad". Wish-washy, flippity-flopping, a sign of lacking in moral values and leadership.
So, if you cause someone to change their opinion based upon your arguement are they now wishy-washy and immoral people? If they refuse to change their opinion based upon the facts you present are they now moral and display leadership?

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Impeachment
Posted by: dantesdad on Feb 27, 2006 8:45 AM   
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Libs can't impeach GW for the same reason they couldn't elect Kerry -- they are in the political minority. They are in the political minority because Diebold and GOP vote-counters will not permit them to gain the political majority that would actually reflect the will of the people and allow them to carry out that will. There is no outrage over election fraud because with the rescinding of the Fairness Doctrine by Reagan and the conglomeration of the major media, we can no longer turn to the fourth estate to look out for anything but the size of their own pocketbooks. I hope to be proven wrong in 2006, but I suspect the Diebold/ESS ticket will continue to maintain GOP control for at least another 2 years, if not much, much longer.

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RE: Impeachment
Posted by: dantesdad on Feb 27, 2006 9:01 AM   
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Election fraud in 2000, 2002 and 2004 is as plain as the nose on your face. All you have to do look, but that must be difficult when you've got your eyes closed and you're screaming "GOP! GOP! GOP!" at the top of your lungs.

The fourth estate is liberal?

That must be why the NYT sat on the NSA scandal until a year AFTER the election when they had the story in October and could caused some major headaches for the Bush campaign. It must have been their "liberal bias".

For all I know, you're sitting in some office in Washington pulling in a fat paycheck for some GOP-funded think tank or ad agency.... At this point, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. In fact, it would make a lot of sense for them to flood the progressive web blogs with naysayers and rabble rousers to try to help "catapult the propaganda" as your fearless leader likes to say.

You've had your say. I've had mine. Anything further at this point is trolling in my opinion... Have a nice day.

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Impeachment? I don't think so!
Posted by: custersbud on Feb 27, 2006 12:25 PM   
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If the Democrats regain control of the House and Senate in the '06 elections, which is possible but unlikely, Bush won't be impeached. The reason is simple; Cheney, who is the real brains in this whole mess we call an administration. Unless someone figures out a way to make it a package deal, it won't happen. He and Rumsfeld are the ventiloquists who wind up Bush and send him out to do the talking, but if you look closely you can see Cheney's lips moving. The second reason is as dantesdad stated, Diebold.
Unfortunately, Bush will be with us till January of '09. Till then we can only dream of him facing impeachment, as well as being brought before a tribunal at The Hague for his war crimes.

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» RE: Impeachment? I don't think so! Posted by: awakeallready